Was I supposed to vote yes or no ?

Check this out,
"Court victory lets preserved Ohio 2004 ballots tell new tales of theft and fraud as indictments and convictions mount"

Link

" In Clermont County, which contributed significantly to Bush’s margin of victory, researcher Dr. Ronald Baiman discovered a suspicious use of replacement ballots, that are meant to be issued only if a regular ballot is somehow spoiled by a voter. In a random draw of one ballot from each of the 192 precincts, against huge odds, Baiman found a replacement ballot. Baiman asked that the next ballot from the precinct be drawn and it, too, was a replacement ballot. Continuing pulling ballots from that same precinct, Baiman witnessed 36 straight replacement ballots in a row, a virtual statistical impossibility. Dr. Philips recorded only five spoiled ballots in this same precinct, raising the question of where the other 31 replacement ballots came from."
Good stuff

That article above is the one to break this wide open
J Kenny Blackwell better be on the bus to Mexico
Maybe he can work for the IRI down there

Hmmm. Let's see...

Replacement ballots for unexplained reasons in Cleremont County.

Stickers over Kerry and Bush selected in Warren County, plus a never-explained-and-denied-by-FBI "terrorist attack" that required removal of the media and secret counting (stuffing?) of the ballots.

Lack of equipment, unprecedented lines, and last-minute changes of polling locations that had been the same for decades in Cayahouga (sic?) county.

General malfeasance and criminal behavior by the Republican Secretary-of-State and co-Chair of the Bush/Cheney campaign throughout the state.

Nawww. It was a perfect election. If you are a fascist Republican.

{Ed note: Comment deleted. Pick a name and stick with it. And spamming the same issue on thread after thread ain't helping you case either. -BF}

Looks like Diebold has hacked the C-Span Poll. Since your published figure, 1600 more people voted and about 1300 of them said they trust E-voting machines! In your poll result of the first 1210 votes only 266 trusted the machines.

Why are we voting on these e-polls? They aren't scientific or in any way valid. C-Span should publish a disclaimer that says so. Anyway, as I post this it stands at 53% Yes and 47% No.

I've seen that before on Capital news on the Iraq war (I think) totally flopping the vote
Edison Mitofsky probably runs them (CIA/DOD)

Such a sudden turn-around. Hmmmm, It's either robo-voting, or, Capital News flipped the vote

C'mon people. We all know its the Republicans that have jobs during the day and that the Republicans are more likely to vote at night. You know, same reason they did not respond to the exit poller's during 2004 ...they had to get to work.

Anon... LOL

1450=yes, 22=no between the two times posted.

78=yes, 1132=no as of the first post.

Curiouser and curiouser

Hummmm . . . . . Kinda reminds me of 00, 02, 04, . . . "Very Interesting Hogan"

No, come on guys! It's completely plausable that 1300 out of the last 1500 votes said they "trust" electronic voting machines. *Just* because only 266 out of 1210 previous votes trusted the durn things ALL DAY LONG, doesn't mean you should get your panties in a bunch. You should just "trust" the results. It would be gull durned unamerican and traitorous not to. Bullshit.

Check this pole out, it's from the "Lionel Radio Show" . . .

http://wor710.com/pages/46363.php

Ok, we got to get this poll circulating. I put it on Mike Malloy’s blog.

JUDGE
I wonder how many people voted in that poll. I cast my vote too, but it didn't look like it needed my help.

its still 53% to 47% ka wink e dinks all around

A test of the poll reveals that it's cookie-based, and not I.P based. So, all anyone has to do to vote more than once, is delete their cookies.

Rigging this poll wouldn't take skill. Just free time.

...Or a simple 10 line Visual Basic program, that even Diebold couldn't screw up.

Somebody made everybody at the BradBlog sad by messing up C-SPAN's poll.

Somebody 1, BradBlog 0

You win.

Floridiot #2

Thanks for that. Attorney Cliff Arnebeck, now there's a name I haven't heard for a long time. Everything went in favor of Republican's. Imagine that!

Guess we know why Blackwell changed his mind now.

Great news! Thank you to the people in Ohio who stood up, whoever you are!

This is the exact ratio of the difference in the McKinney-Johnson primary vs. runoff! Remember that? This tells me there is a grassroots movement of the American people, in the last few minutes, of trusting e-vote machines! I'm sold!

What happened was, a great number of infuriated Americans who "diehard" trust and pro-actively are "for" electronic voting machines, even though Hursti, blackboxvoting.org , and Princeton University have successfully hacked into them undetectably, got up off their lazy asses and wanted to show how much they trust e-vote machines in the face of these facts. Just like the huge increase in voter registration for the 2004 election turned out NOT to be for Kerry, again in the face of facts.

I e-mailed Capitol News right off this morning over their poll numbers now on detainee rights. 272 took the poll 77% agreed they deserve rights. Told c-span if it changes like it's been changing.. by tonight it'll flip in the opposite direction. So has Diebold or Rove gotten into their polling results? And remarked on the trusting e-voting or not poll. Hey if they'll go after Keith Olbermann with soap powder, and as bad with the NY Post write up, why leave c-span out of the mix ? Can't have any free speech here !

You guys got it wrong - its the "values voters" that know that their vote is only "valued" if it is counted by easy-to-manipulate electronic counting software that is impossible to verify.

Of course, these "values voters" don't exist in a meaningful sense of the word; but, just like 2000, 2002, and 2004, they provide cover and a distraction from actually counting the voters.

If the Dems (by what would have to be a miracle considering the ReThugs own the vote-stealing machines) manage to get a majority in the House and/or Senate, I would advocate that they immediately introduce a bill to make the maximum sentence for election theft the death penalty. Let's get a little deterence going here! Convict blackwell and other America destroying scum and put them on death row to make a point that could be heard loud and clear with election supervisors paid off by the ReThugs and the bush crime family. I'm guessing that faked FEMA lock-downs to facilitate "ballot box" stuffing would thereby become rather rare --- either because the crooks would go straight, or go straight to the electric chair. I imagine that "paper ballots, hand counted" and other secure methods would be embraced pretty damn quickly. A secure accurate election system would ensure many years of single party Democratic rule to (wishful thinking?) fix the myriad problems and damage the ReThugs have caused. Might want to keep the legal torture capability for a while too, to make sure we find out who all of the accomplices are of the election theives. And, taking a page out of dumbya/gonzales' book: when the tortured give up names (most, no doubt, innocent as is always the case with torture), we can just discard names of the Dems/liberals and go pick up the ReThugs for some "questioning." What's good for the goose should be good for the gander.

Fair and balanced, I say.

Who says a "liberal" can't be tough on crime?

At the initial screen shot
22% trust evoting, or 266 votes
78% don't trust, for 944 votes (1210 total votes on this screen shot)

At the second screen shot
53% trust evoting, or 1528
47% don't trust, or 1354

Net change
there are 1672 New votes, over the 1210 in the first screen shot.
of the new votes:
75.5% trust e-voting
24.5% don't trust e-voting

One would not need to "delete cookies" repeatedly to do this, one could just do a "ballot definition error" of assigning Yes votes to the no column, and no votes to the yes column. Thus, voting could have stayed consistently at the 75% against evoting all day long, but would just be recorded the opposite way, and the close overall numbers of the second screen shot are just a temporary phase as the original 75% or so gets turned "against itself".

It's unlikely there will be enough total votes, but if the process were to continue under this theory, then over time the results would get closer and closer to 75% in favor of evoting and 25% against...

Electronic voting - trust it like you trust the criminalf*cks in the REPUBLICAN BUSHIT MAJORITY IN CONGRESS that just voted to give BUSH the option to deal with terrorist suspects as he please REVERSING our previous stance since the creation of this nation. Now these FASCIST F*CKS can start opening all the US PRISONS they have been building around the country and hold a SUSPECTED TERRORIST INDEFINETELY AND APPLY ANY FORM OF TORTURE AS THEY SEE FIT> BUSH/CHENEY/RUMSFELD/GONZALEZ AND ALL OTHER BUSHIT BASTARDS GOT WHAT THEY WANTED AGAIN although they have been committing this crime all along previously BREAKING THE LAW as usual.

Wake up America and hold a e poll or e vote or simply have George Bushit and the Bushit administration create a new US flag. A flag which puts a big RED SWASTICA WHERE THE STARS USE TO BE.

And as far all the pro-Lieberman polls and 50 of Lieberman's senator friends backing him up.. the vote of the people voted him out. In other words, a majority of the vote of "the people" didn't wish to extend the priviledge of Joe Lieberman to represent him. GET IT!!!

BUT Keep on releasing polls saying how people want Joe. If they wanted this Democratic war monger they would have CHOSEN HIM AS THE DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE.

Your right about deleting the cookie. I deleted mine and was able to vote again, and again, and again. I will never trust another electronic anything.

Somebody should take a screenshot of their new poll: Should detainees be allowed to challenge their detentions in court?

It's 81% yes...19% no right now.