READER COMMENTS ON
"How Cyber Ninjas' Own Docs Reveal Their Steal in AZ; And the Truth About Second COVID Shots: 'BradCast' 5/3/2021"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Edie Grant
said on 5/4/2021 @ 2:45 am PT...
I don't know what is confusing about the tallying process in the AZ audit. Each table has a Republican, a Democrat, and an Independent or 3rd party. They must be in agreement before a ballot is tallied. They are tallied by batches with a copy of the totals staying with the batch and another copy being entered onto a spreadsheet. The other tables not counting are looking for kinematic artifacts with those findings being noted. There are observers present from each party and cameras for the public to view 24/7 in addition to cameras that are being recorded above each table. Some media are allowed in yet some that have zoomed in on name badges and faces of the volunteers have been removed.
I just watched the documentary that you were involved with from 2008 and everyone on there sounds exactly like Trump supporters now. I would hope you engage with those now who are calling for an end to the use of the machines and going to hand counted paper ballots as you were ahead of the curve then. Obviously Republicans and Democrats have both been involved with stealing the vote from the American people and there is some other entity driving the direction of country. You discovered the Genesis if the electronic steal here and they have had years to perfect it. I have no doubt that if you were to reach out to Patrick Byrne as an honest broker, he would be happy to bring you up to speed and share information. Isn't it time we finally put a stop to it?
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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DonL
said on 5/4/2021 @ 6:03 am PT...
Edie Grant:
Your claim that people from BOTH parties are doing the recount in AZ seems false on it face.
Can you verify that beyond a reasonable doubt?
If you can't, I will assume it's a lie.
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Jeff K
said on 5/4/2021 @ 2:01 pm PT...
I’m not sure I understand why you don’t feel like this is a transparent audit. The entire audit is being live streamed and cameras can be viewed at anytime. In key Fulton county in GA the counting room was cleared out from observation late at night while counting continued. In Detroit windows were tapped with cardboard to prevent observation. There is plenty of documentation available to see the what the color coded groups do.
The people conducting these audits are being attacked by many different people. There is no reading for the media to be in the room with the live-streaming. Updates are being given from leaders of the audit. Any results given during the audit process could be lead this one way or another where people could jump to conclusions.
Why has there been so much push back for a real audit? Have you watched Kill Chain on HBO? These machines are very hackable. Looking at just the ballot images will just spit out the same results. No one has done a real audit. Look at what’s going on in Michigan Antrim county. There are real issues that need to be investigated.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 5/4/2021 @ 9:44 pm PT...
Edie Grant said @1:
I don't know what is confusing about the tallying process in the AZ audit.
I don't believe I said it was "confusing". I said it was non-transparent.
Each table has a Republican, a Democrat, and an Independent or 3rd party.
Really? Where is the evidence to support that?
They must be in agreement before a ballot is tallied.
That is untrue. Sounds like you neither read the document nor even listened to my coverage of it on the show you are commenting on.
They are tallied by batches with a copy of the totals staying with the batch and another copy being entered onto a spreadsheet.
And, of course, the totals don't need to match. For example, two counters can say Trump received 32 votes in a batch, and one counter can say Trump received only 30, and it will be tallied as "32", even if Trump really only received 30 votes. (In that way, Trump can receive 42,000 extra votes in Maricopa if the Ninja's count in batches of 100, as they say in the documents, or an extra 84,000 votes if they count in batches of 50, as they are actually counting as of Monday.
As to "being entered onto a spreadsheet", who is doing that? Is he/she doing so accurately? How would anybody know? There is no oversight of those tally sheets, nor oversight of the numbers being added to the spreadsheet. There is no tracking of those numbers whatsoever, since those numbers are not being published publicly each day.
The other tables not counting are looking for kinematic artifacts with those findings being noted.
"Noted" where? By whom? (If you haven't noticed, these are all issues of something that those of us with actual experience with elections and voting systems call "transparency".)
There are observers present from each party and cameras for the public to view 24/7 in addition to cameras that are being recorded above each table.
Are you sure there are "observers present from each party"? How do you know this? Who are they? I am told, by those actually working inside the Coliseum, that they are having a very difficult time finding any Dems willing to participate in this charade. But I'll look forward to your transparent evidence that I am wrong.
Are you able to see how any ballots are being tallied from any of those "cameras for the public to view 24/7"? I'm not. Nor is anybody else. But perhaps you'll point me to better cameras than those available at AZAudit.org.
Some media are allowed in yet some that have zoomed in on name badges and faces of the volunteers have been removed.
Why? Counting ballots with tax-payer money is a public process. I have never, in 20 years of covering these things, seen a situation where ballot counters are hidden from the public.
I just watched the documentary that you were involved with from 2008 and everyone on there sounds exactly like Trump supporters now.
I don't know which documentary you're referring to (I've been in quite a few). Was everyone calling for secret counting of ballots? I suspect they were seeking the exact opposite of what the tax-payer funded Trump supporters in Maricopa are now doing.
I would hope you engage with those now who are calling for an end to the use of the machines and going to hand counted paper ballots as you were ahead of the curve then.
I remain "ahead of that curve". And far ahead of Trump supporting Republicans. I called for hand-counted paper ballots in the two January U.S. Senate Runoffs in Georgia. There were few if any GOP takers.
Obviously Republicans and Democrats have both been involved with stealing the vote from the American people and there is some other entity driving the direction of country.
What "other entity"?
You discovered the Genesis if the electronic steal here and they have had years to perfect it. I have no doubt that if you were to reach out to Patrick Byrne as an honest broker, he would be happy to bring you up to speed and share information. Isn't it time we finally put a stop to it?
The CEO of Overstock.com is not "an honest broker". He has alleged the election was stolen, without offering a shred of proof for that assertion. He, like Lindell, like Trump, is a carnival barker, preying on fools who are dumb enough to send them money for what they all certainly know was not a stolen election --- or, if it was, they're doing a damned fine job of keeping the evidence of that a secret from the world! If they got it, they really should share it, including Lindell, who has Absolutely Nothing but smoke, mirrors, and no evidence at all of election theft. I wish he did.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 5/4/2021 @ 10:06 pm PT...
Jeff K @3:
I'm not sure I understand why you don't feel like this is a transparent audit.
For one, please read my response to Edie above. If you need still more examples, let me know.
The entire audit is being live streamed and cameras can be viewed at anytime.
I spoke about that above as well. Let me know if you are still confused.
In key Fulton county in GA the counting room was cleared out from observation late at night while counting continued.
Actually, it wasn't. Observers voluntarily left. The room was open all night. (Feel free to look it up, since I suspect you've been misinformed to the contrary.)
In Detroit windows were tapped with cardboard to prevent observation.
Actually, no. Windows were covered to prevent the threats, and banging on the glass as workers were being disrupted from their work. Also, photos were being taken of private voter information, even as hundreds of actual poll challengers were already inside (over the allowable limit, many without required masks, endangering everyone in the bargain). Some fact checking for you here, with videos, images, links, etc.. More here. And here. And here.
There is plenty of documentation available to see the what the color coded groups do.
Cool! Where is the evidence of what they are actually doing? Real post-election audits make such evidence available to the public, and the media, and share it online.
The people conducting these audits are being attacked by many different people. There is no reading for the media to be in the room with the live-streaming
Sounds like you --- similarly to Doug Logan (CEO of Cyber Ninjas) --- have no idea how actual post-election audits or recounts work.
Updates are being given from leaders of the audit.
Really? Cool! Got a link to how many ballots were tallied today? Which ones? What the totals were? How they compared to the previous count(s)? How about for any idea since this exercise began? I look forward to your URLs! Great news!
Any results given during the audit process could be lead this one way or another where people could jump to conclusions.
You. Are. Darling! We'd hate to see anybody "jump to conclusions"! Where is the data? If they are not sharing it, it is not a transparent process. I guess I'll be waiting for those links to those "updates...from leaders of the audit". (For the record, former AZ SoS Ken Bennett is not a "leader of the audit". He is a Senate liaison. His partner, John Brakey, is a longtime election integrity expert and a friend and colleague of mine who has been highly critical of the current process. He was interviewed on my show last week at length about the entire mess.
Why has there been so much push back for a real audit?
There hasn't been. There has been pushback against the Maricopa "audit", which is phony, and anything but a "real" audit.
Have you watched Kill Chain on HBO?
Of course. Before it was released on HBO, because the filmmakers are longtime friends and colleagues, as are most of the people featured in the film, which includes a number of elements of my own work.
These machines are very hackable.
No kidding?! (You may wish to read any of the thousands of stories I've written here at this blog that help you to know that fact in the first place. You're welcome.)
Looking at just the ballot images will just spit out the same results.
Actually, while I'm no fan of ballot images, you assertions is not correct. Ballot images, if they are legitimate, will show what was scanned on the hand-marked paper ballots. The database that registers the marks from the ballot images can record something completely different or be manipulated to do so. Or can do so through innocent programming error or hardware malfunction.
No one has done a real audit.
Again, if you believe what is going on right now in Maricopa is a "real audit", you know no more about what a "real audit" is than the Cyber Ninjas apparently do.
Look at what's going on in Michigan Antrim county.
Okay. What would you like me to see there?
There are real issues that need to be investigated.
There always are. It's why this blog has been in existence for almost 20 years. Thanks for finally giving a damn. Hope you'll learn something here before you making such ridiculous assertions again next time. Start reading real information. Gateway Pundit, Fox "News" and OANN are playing you for a sucker. I only hope you haven't been dumb enough to send them your money.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Bev
said on 5/5/2021 @ 7:25 am PT...
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COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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DonL
said on 5/5/2021 @ 10:05 pm PT...
Once again, Magas are proven to have
no "there" there.
These sad folks have no idea of how pitiful they are. But, lack of self-awareness is clearly one of the basic ingredients of becoming a maga.
All they have are screams of "stop the steal", QAnon, Bigfoot, Elvis, blah blah blah.
OK, Elvis may count for something.