The Trumpening: 2nd Presidential Debate Turns Very Dark in St. Louis, MO: ‘BradCast’ 10/10/2016

Guests: Journalist and communications strategist Jacki Schechner, Progressive public policy advocate Dave Johnson...

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The insane 2016 Presidential campaign took a decidedly dark turn on Sunday night. We cover all of that darkness and more on today’s BradCast. [Link to audio posted below.]

After a weekend of seeming implosion by the GOP nominee and the Republican Party on the heels of the release of a 2005 ‘hot mic’ video tape in which Donald Trump is seen and heard lewdly boasting about sexually assaulting married women and others, he lashed out at Hillary and Bill Clinton on Sunday night, with a press conference (of sorts) featuring women allegedly assaulted by the former President during the 80s and 90s.

All of that and more came up during the 2nd Presidential Debate held on Sunday night at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri. I’m joined on today’s show for coverage, analysis and insight on what is almost certainly one of the darkest chapters in modern U.S. Presidential political history by former CNN journalist and communications strategist Jacki Schechner and progressive policy advocate Dave Johnson, Senior Fellow at People’s Action (formerly: Campaign for America’s Future.)

“I feel like there’s this feeling of that old story of the frog that’s getting warmer and warmer and warmer. Well, we’re boiling. And everybody is suddenly noticing that the water’s boiling right now,” Johnson says in response to my question about how America and the Republican Party have arrived at this point (which I’m more than happy to blame, in no small part, on the corporate media and its decades long failure to report what has been going on in our politics over the last several Presidential Administrations as anything much more than both-sides-do-it politics-as-usual). “This has been coming for a long time. Donald Trump is the Republican Party right now. He’s nothing more than the manifestation of something that’s been building up and building up, and now we’re at a reckoning point,” he says.

Schechner notes: “While we think, in the moment, that, ‘this will be the straw that breaks the camel’s back’, the camel gets up again on Monday morning and keeps on trotting. I don’t know if it’s because of the nature of where we are societally, or if it’s just that we’ve gotten so disgusted with politics, that we’re so deep in the mud we can’t even see where the mud begins, but we’re totally desensitized to where this has gone and where the Republican Party has taken us.”

As we struggle to try and make sense of Sunday’s debate, Trump’s behavior, and where all of this can possibly go from here, Schechner observes: “Trump has been this person his whole life. The Republican Party broke him, they bought him. Clinton herself is a flawed candidate, [but] she’s not a sociopath. The problem is that she has to figure out a way to combat him and not get down in the dirt with him, and at the same time mitigate the damage that exists, based on her own somewhat flawed political past.”

Yeesh. Lots to talk about and lots to cover on today’s BradCast

The BradCast with Brad Friedman 10/10/2016
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    Ernest A. Canning said on 10/10/2016 @ 6:14pm PT: [Permalink]

    I believe the words for the media charade that Dave Johnson was looking for are what Bill Moyers referred to as “the charade of fair and balanced.”

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    TrumpanzeeLivesMatter said on 10/12/2016 @ 7:11am PT: [Permalink]

    Because Clinton is a Narcissistic Psychopath she’s not a sociopath.

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    Ernest A. Canning said on 10/12/2016 @ 8:41am PT: [Permalink]

    The Alt-Right comment by the Trump supporter @4 who goes by the handle TrumpanzeeLivesMatter (“TLM”) appears to squarely fit within the definition of “psychological projection“, which is defined as the process “in which humans defend themselves against their own impulses or qualities…by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.”

    The example provided by the linked source is eerily apropos when placed in the context of Trump’s second “debate” tirades: “a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.

    Since TLM raises the specter of “narcissism”, it is perhaps useful to examine the traits that are used to identify a Narcissistic Personality Disorder (“NPD”) that are set forth by the 4th edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) both as a means of establishing why TLM’s pseudo-scientific descriptor does not apply to Hillary Clinton though it may, indeed, apply to Donald Trump:

    1. An exaggerated sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).

    2. Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love…Narcissists…live in their own little worlds (and react with affront when reality dares to intrude).

    3. Believes he is ‘special’ and can only understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).

    4. Requires excessive admiration.

    5. Has a sense of entitlement…They expect automatic compliance with their wishes…and may react with…rage when these expectations are frustrated.

    6. Selfishly takes advantage of others to achieve his own ends…Narcissists use other people to get what they want without caring about the cost to the other people.

    7. Lacks empathy.

    8. Is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him.

    9. Shows arrogant, haughty, patronizing, or contemptuous behaviors or attitudes. Translation: They treat other people like dirt.

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