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"NYTimes All Over '09 D.C. Teabag Protest; Less So With Coverage of Larger '05 D.C. Anti-War Protest"
(60 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 9/12/2009 @ 6:58 pm PT...
Thanks, Brad, for pointing out the glaring inequity in coverage. And thanks for keeping the record of a mass grassroots antiwar demonstration from disappearing down the memory hole.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 9/12/2009 @ 7:00 pm PT...
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 9/12/2009 @ 9:00 pm PT...
Yeah, I remember even police estimates put that NYC crowd at 100,000, which means it was closer to a quarter mil. Check out the guy in the idiot rally with the sign written in yellow - the one from Ben Franklin. Weren't we saying that five years ago? These people are getting exponentially more stupid (and as a mathematician, I can say that with confidence.)
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 9/12/2009 @ 9:24 pm PT...
"Glenn Beck/sore loser protests..."
Lie. These people are not sore losers. They are patriots who are speaking out against a sea of "change" that will bankrupt this country. ($9 trillion in additiional debt? Hello??)
"Fox News sponored event..."
Another lie. Fox News has known that this discontent has been growing, so they have kept their radar on it. Compare that to MSLSD, which tried to dismiss the whole movement with a bunch of oral sex jokes and then trotted out some barely-employed actress to slander hundreds of thousands of Americans. That "network" is the fake news network, not Fox News.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 1:01 am PT...
If McCain and Palin had won, this herd of numbnuts wouldn't bat an eye if we stayed in Iraq and Afghanistan for, um...."a hundred years - if that's what it takes". It's these stupid illegal wars that have killed the economy and put us in debt. Remember the Clinton surplus and the Clinton job creation (and the Clinton global goodwill)? Who was it who squandered Al Gore's lockbox? Every possible indicator of a healthy economy and a healthy public (divorce, teen pregnancy, bankruptcies, and so on) plummeted in the 8 years we suffered under Bush. Bush drove this country into a fucking ditch - a dry drunk at the wheel and Cheney's cloven hoof on the accelerator. And all the while FAUX News, Limbaugh, and a pathologically dishonest GOP Congress whips these mouthbreathers into such a paranoid frenzy of brownshirt nationalism they can't pause to think long enough to realize they are being raped by the same parasites they now want to keep in business, unregulated and untaxed no doubt.
So as much loathing as I may have for anything that Obama might be doing (or doing precious little of, I should say), these brainless, violent, foaming, ignorant twats have zero credibility politically, and barely register as competent human beings.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 3:45 am PT...
DAMAIL does it again. Attacking the messenger while ignoring the message....
Of course, who could expect him to any point of reference to compare with, seeing as his TV never leaves the FOX Noise machine.
And, of course, since there was next to no coverage (in America that is) of the tens of millions of people worldwide and the millions in America alone who were protesting that illegitimate war, how can anyone expect the closed minded to have ANY perspective on how widespread the dissent was in 2005.
Sore loser? Nah....for this one, the disconnect from reality is so profound, they don't even realize the election is over.
Unless, of course, they're actually a Operation Mockingbird CIA/NSA plant.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
To Be Fair
said on 9/13/2009 @ 4:48 am PT...
To be fair to the New York Times, the liberal blogs largely ignored the anti-war demonstration in September of 2005 also.
That's because "Interantional Answer" was involved. John Stewart actually mocked the protesters on his show and told Cindy Sheehan to get a job".
So let's not blame the NY Times for the fact that Republicans support their base and Democrats ignore theirs. How many Democratic politicians (with the exception of Kucinich) would speak at an International Answer rally?
The "answer" is very few because the last thing Barney Frank or Chuck Schumer want is to be photographed next to someone waiving a Palestinian flag.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 4:56 am PT...
Damail...duh....Faux news is not news,Fox news is for the mindless, being driven by another dry drunk(as in Bush/Beck). It appears that people who are themselves mentally ill/incompetent watch Faux news. The show itself pushes the buttons of the mentally ill, it makes their world, their fears seem real because Faux employs people of the same mindset, making them crazier I call it the Jerry Springer of news shows. really the FCC has to come out with regulations regarding what is news...the only true news is on public teevee or the bbc...
News does not ask you to do things, news reports the stories of the day, that's it...NEWS PROGRAMS DO NOT ASK YOU TO DO THINGS, WATCH PUBLIC ACCESS NEWS, TURN OFF FOX FOR A DAY AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR LIFE...IN FACT TURN OFF TEEVEE ALL TOGETHER AS I HAVE...It's a beautiful day...
we need to contact the FCC and ask them to regulate what is a news show...and what is a talk show...fox is "jerry springer of news shows"...IT IS A TALK SHOW WITH GLENN BECK AT THE HELM...A DRY DRUNK AT THE HELM, I worked in the addictions field for 20+ years and know what this is all about.. contact the FCC...
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 5:34 am PT...
But, why does the "liberal media" only show "conservative" protests?
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 5:58 am PT...
Progressive protests "didn't happen", then they can say: "people aren't protesting the war, because Obama is president". I've heard the rightwing media say that.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 6:36 am PT...
Keep guzzling the koolaid Brad, I'm sure the Parasite-in-Chief appreciates your lemming-like march to the cliff of Marxism.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 6:58 am PT...
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 7:01 am PT...
The fire dept says 60-70,000; Michelle Malkin says 2 million.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 8:21 am PT...
Amazing, isn't it. After weeks of hype and promotion by the full forces of the "conservative" media. They pulled less than 100,000 to our nation's capital.
Fringe element indeed.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 9:04 am PT...
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 9:07 am PT...
"Michelle Malkin says 2 million..."
Malkin has since updated that thread about the attendance figure.
And to Barracuda: Fox News absolutely is news. They are news much more than MSLSD will ever be.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 11:23 am PT...
Fox News absolutely is news. They are news much more than MSLSD will ever be.
Just so you know, you are not, and will not be taken seriously on this blog EVER. Continue to waste your time if you wish. At this point, you are 1) providing amusement, and 2) confirming to "our" side that there is simply much more work to do.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 1:57 pm PT...
Damail ~ FOX lies to you. A lot. Don't believe me? I don't expect you will no matter what undisputed facts I point to. Still, if you wonder why people think you're unhinged, it may be because you're arguing for/ against completely made-up stuff.
You have no legitimacy because rational people will not "agree to disagree" with you on facts.
"Fox News gets okay to misinform public, court ruling:
"...A Florida Appeals court ruled there is absolutely nothing illegal about lying, concealing or distorting information by a major press organization. The court reversed the $425,000 jury verdict in favor of journalist Jane Akre who charged she was pressured by Fox Television management and lawyers to air what she knew and documented to be false information. The ruling basically declares it is technically not against any law, rule, or regulation to deliberately lie or distort the news on a television broadcast..."
(There are many links to this info / this is just one/ won't help to discredit the source)
And for the record, many who post here don't care for MSNBC either(I assuming that's who you're referring to with your retarded acronym) largely because our critical thinking skills are still intact, believe it or not, and we can recognize that it's OPINION, not NEWS.
In fact, many of us, like Barracuda78, have dropped our cable news (and TV's) completely and are getting our news from well-vetted, independent news sources like Bradblog. It makes all the difference in the world.
You post here, so maybe there's hope for you. I doubt it. I, for one, am done trying to save family and friends whose brains have been drained of their essense like podlings by a Skexies-like, IQ sucking Glenn Beck. It's a losing battle.
You guys want to be dumb.
Like Jaycee, here, who seems very confused about what Marxism is (reveals his/her second grade education tossing about "isms" that FOX doesn't want you to understand.) You two are volunteer idiots, intentionally clinging to wrong conclusions by working backwards to support the lies FOX is spoon-feeding you; so desperate to believe them that you willfully carry their Olympic-of-Lies torch for them at all costs to your own best interest.
As I've just recently lost a favorite Aunt's (mind) to Glenn Beck, I wish someone could explain to me why Fox viewers want to believe lies so badly you'll divorce reality completely and isolate yourselves from family and friends who love you and don't want you to be crazy.
All I can get for an answer is that you're scared of some far off, abstract idea of "Socialism" - which is being used completely out of context to scare you. I'm admit to being stymied, Damail, as to why not one of you can explain what it is you think is so scary that you'd prefer to join the ranks of hysterical, delusional, stupid, paranoid liars. Care to take that on? Because I'd really like an explanation that lends some kind of humanity to your position.
I'm not holding my breath.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 2:09 pm PT...
"We need to contact the FCC and ask them to regulate what is a news show...and what is a talk show..." This is fresh! Having the FCC set standards as to what is allowed to be called news...very interesting!~
Actually, lots of us have contacted the FCC, but has anyone ever suggested this? I don't have a lot of faith in anyone other than Copps and Addlestein, and that's only two of five.
Anyone know: what is the likelihood they'd consider?
(Soul Rebel @ #5 - "Who was it who squandered Al Gore's lockbox?" Ha! Great question / nice 8 yr. callback.)
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 2:20 pm PT...
Irony of all ironies, even Lizz Winstead, co-creator of the Daily Show and ex partner with Rachel Maddow on Air America, lost her 88 yo Mother to Faux Gnu's and Glenn Beck. Even tho she has been on Medicare for the last 23 years, she now calls it Socialized Medicine!?!?.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 3:33 pm PT...
OMG, Flo! You give GREAT link.
Hee-STARE-ical. I really, really needed that. Thanks a ga'zillion.
"...and this is what she said—'You‘re a Marxist. And you know how I know? I‘ve seen you bring that “New York Times” into my home.” And I said “Yes, I bought it at Das Starbucks, mom, the underground reading facility for us in the Communist Party.'"
“Dancing with the Indicted”??!! Well, that's THE joke - isn't it tho?
Viva, La Winstead!
(Gonna check out your Alex Carey audio, now.)
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 7:45 pm PT...
Damn theres no end to these mindless morons that will follow the storm troopers to the edge of hell than walk into the aybss smiling.This just goes to show you what happens when the republicans cut funding for mental health.Is there a chance that there was mass alien abductions...where as their brains were sucked out and replaced with silly putty?? Birthers,tenthers,tea baggers whats next rectal spelunking??
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 7:55 pm PT...
"You will not ever be taken seriously on this blog EVER..."
Your problem, not mine.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 8:15 pm PT...
While I don't have an actual count either.
Looks like a bunch more than 100k to me. And to the Fox paid the way comments: There were 3 buses out of Columbia, 5 (I know of) out of Charleston, 2 out of Myrtle Beach (I know of) of all the ones I know of via C4L and other contact - not one penny was received from Faux News.
But believe what you will and spin how you want... it was nice to see folks speaking out. Now if the anti-war folks had shown up maybe we could bring out troops home... o wait some of the anti-war folks were there... I notices in Brad's pix that 9/11 "truthers" (as labeled by the MSM) were at the 2005 event.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 9:06 pm PT...
Uh, Daniel, sweetheart? That photo is of the 1997 "Promise Keepers" rally. [Hat-tip ClammyC at dKos.]
Yes, you've been punked again by your wingnut buddies. The same ones who fooled you into not noticing eight years of unprecedented big government and destruction of the U.S. Constitution and everything that actually represents conservative values.
You've been had. Again.
As to the value of Fox's months and months and hours and hours of free broadcast media, exhorting you teabaggers to come out for something you didn't even know you believed in until they told you you did, well if you have no idea how much that would have actually cost for someone to buy, then you are as clueless as Fox would like you to be. Sucker accomplished.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 9:21 pm PT...
That photo is of the 1997 "Promise Keepers" rally.
Oh, get the fuck out! That is just precious, isn't it?
There's a saying we got out in Texas, I'm sure you've got it here in Tennessee...Get a Brain, Morans!
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
said on 9/13/2009 @ 11:08 pm PT...
Go sit in the corner DanielC.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 4:38 am PT...
Is there even an overhead shot of this "protest" that we could compare?
I guess not, the corporatists would be embarrassed to show us what a sham this is.
Army Dick should be deported
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 6:10 am PT...
Back when I was in the process of leaving the Army I was assigned to the 13th PSYOPS Batallion at Ft. Bragg ("embedded" with the Snake-Eaters) and was always puzzled by the great stock that was placed on Priority One: seizing the television and radio broadcast facilities. Sadly, having watched this tactic play out, I can see the rationale behind it. It makes the demise of the Fairness Doctrine ever so much more ominous - the coup was already well under way in 1987. The CMSM, as currently constituted, need a thorough fumigation, followed by a Fairness Doctrine revival. For starters, at least...
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 6:55 am PT...
"he New York Times didn't see fit to cover that demonstration at all. At least not as far as I can find in their online archives. Anybody have more luck than I?"
Yes. I used the "advanced search" in the nytimes.com archives to look for the single word "antiwar" in the week of the 2005 march (+- 3 days of the rallies). I found that while the coverage may not have been comparable, the 2005 antiwar rallies were reported in multiple articles in the Times.
The main story was here:
Antiwar Rallies in Washington and Other Cities
By MICHAEL JANOFSKY
Published: September 25, 2005
There was also this story about the train delays (which apparently caught a Times reporter en route to DC to collect protester-in-the-street stories, who filed from the train instead):
Caught in a Train Delay, a Protest Takes a Detour
By DAMIEN CAVE
Published: September 25, 2005
An electrical failure in New Jersey disrupted train service between New York and Washington, leading to delays and an impromptu protest by antiwar activists.
There was also at least one advance report (and mentions in other stories) about the plans for the rallies:
National Briefing | Washington: Antiwar Protest Is Scheduled
By ELISABETH BUMILLER (NYT)
Published: September 23, 2005
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 7:50 am PT...
*waves - wipes eggs off face*
Thanks for the correction - it has been "fixed".
Don't be so quick to judge folks - I have not been thrilled with the last twenty years of the carp coming out of Washington DC. However, I awoke from my apathetic slumber in '07.
There are quite a lot of us that are sick and tired of the Status Quo in DC with both parties. So stop... think... and welcome your brothers and sisters that want to "vote the bums out".
*continues to wipe egg from his face*
Have a great day.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 8:05 am PT...
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 9:52 am PT...
Faux Spews continues to perpetuate 'teh stupid'
Bill Maher's Real Time Intro this week
You have to see it, Priceless!
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 10:05 am PT...
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 10:20 am PT...
DanielC said: "However, I awoke from my apathetic slumber in '07."
So what happened in '07 that "woke" you up?
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 1:09 pm PT...
Poor Brad. HE HAS CROWD ENVY!
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 1:44 pm PT...
First, thanks for doing the right and courageous thing by admitting your mistake.
Second, you said "I have not been thrilled with the last twenty years of the carp coming out of Washington DC. However, I awoke from my apathetic slumber in '07."
Des asked what made u awake, and I look forward to your answer. But did you really awake? If so, will be joining with those of us trying to hold the Bush/Cheney team accountable for violating the law, the constitution, and so much more for their use of illegal torture, outing of CIA agents, and lying our country into a war (among other things?)
I've yet to see you do that. Though we welcome you here when you do. Hang around. You may learn something. Oh, and turn of Fox "News", where you will learn nothing but lies and utter bullshit.
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 2:10 pm PT...
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COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 2:35 pm PT...
I was at the Sept 24th and 25th (both days) rally.
There were at an absolute minimum 350,000 people there, in fact personally I would say closer to 450,000+ because when we started marching it took about 30 mins before we even moved an inch and the beginning of the march was actually blending into the end of it, we marched around the entire mall which is something like 3.5 miles and that was people shoulder to shoulder spilling over onto side walk to side walk for the entire 3.5 miles.
In the photo you have listed as "Here's an arial(sic) shot from 2005." I am pretty sure is a shot from the lookout window in the Washington Monument. I am right in the middle of that cloud of "PinK" right at the bottom of the photo. In fact I am standing right next to Margot Kidder that is dressed in a big green statue of liberty costume, lol
I actually went with code pink on one of their buses to the event.
I also might add another thing that got very little coverage about that day was the fact that 1000s of us were attacked with what had to be a biological agent, as 1000s of us there that day came down with Tularemia.
No way in hell that could have happened "naturally" especially since the Biological warning alarms went off all over Washington DC, 6 of them spanning several miles.
It was also misting rain that day so there is no way possible that this many people became infected with Tularemia by it being "dusted up" unless it was purposely released in aerosol form.
Took me a couple months to recover from it.
I spoke to Mark Benjamin about this and gave him information he used in his article at Salon.com
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 6:43 pm PT...
I won't go into all the sorted details about the "awakening" because they are more than clear on Beach Banter.
The little fellow from Texas gave me hope that we could get back to our Constitutional Republic in '07. Then I watched in horror the real MSM's actions and the twisted lies presented as 'news'.
Just for your information - I don't watch Faux news other than the stories that may come my way via FB post and UTube subscriptions, and even then I do as much research as I can independent of that station before believing them. I have long since labeled Shawn Hannity - "Lonesome Rhodes" after the '50s film character in "A Face In The Crowd" movie.
Have I truly "awaken"? I learn more each and every day. After writing in "Alfred E. Newman" for Reagan II, Bush I & Bush/Clinton elections I started leaning towards the Constitution Party and was proud to vote for Phillips in 2000. If you must know...
I grew up in the South and the Democrats are rather corrupt going back to pre-civil war here. The Repubs don't hold much better a record either, but at the local level they tend to be much more fiscally sound. My time in Arizona (7 years) showed me the the Democrats out their tend to be just as fiscally sound in most cases, but our system is ripe for corruption as long as our elections don't allow alternative views to make the ballots, imho.
So don't be so quick to judge a "post by it's cover", and entertain others view points. We are America - the melting pot. *bow and salute*
BTW: I still use the electronic machines information here to attempt to educate and change the voting control here in Horry Co and South Carolina.
Daniel S Cochran
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 9:10 pm PT...
Horry Co? Well, you *do* have problems! Glad to hear you're in the fight down there. Get rid of those damned machines which kept god knows how many citizens from being able to vote at all last year during the Republican primary (as you probably know), and ensured that there would be no evidence at all, that ANY vote actually cast, was actually counted for the person intended by the voter!
Beyond that, thanks for sharing your plight, and glad you found us here. Might I suggest giving a listen to my conversation last week on the Mike Malloy Show with Ernest Hancock, a big Ron Paul supporter (he says he designed the rEVOLution logo), about how the phony teabaggers have succeeded in coopting the legitimate Ron Paul movement. Listen to the HOUR 2 audio, right here:
Hope that begins to help. Thanks for sticking around, Daniel.
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 9:12 pm PT...
Um, one more thing, Daniel. The post you made at your blog, which was in error, because it showed the 1997 "Promise Keeper" rally, but represented it as the 9/12 rally? Looks like you sent it down the memory hole, instead of admitting your error to your readers.
You should restore that post, and be transparent about your mistake. That would be the right, and respectable thing to do. Hope you'll consider doing so.
COMMENT #43 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 9:25 pm PT...
COMMENT #44 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 9:27 pm PT...
TEA PARTY MASSIVE FAILURE
What if you threw an expensive party and nobody came? OK, the neighborhood hobo and his wife came, but they always come for free food and evangelical music.
30,000 to 70,000 appears to be the range now.
Now what do with all the leftovers, especially all the anger pie. And now the hobo and his wife just took off before cleanup.
COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 9:29 pm PT...
big problem with the photograph: it doesn't include the National Museum of the American Indian, a building located at the corner of Fourth St. and Independence Ave. that opened on Sept. 14, 2004. (Looking at the photograph, the building should be in the upper right hand corner of the National Mall, next to the Air and Space Museum.) That means the picture was taken before the museum opened exactly five years ago. So clearly the photo doesn't show the "tea party" crowd from the Sept. 12 protest.
"I've seen bigger crowds at Montreal Expos games, but I still wouldn't fake a photo just to justify your predictions of millions descending on Washington," said one gleeful Democratic media strategist. "This is grade-A stupid and just plays into the argument that these were astroturf protests to begin with. They've always brought the noise, but the question that was supposed to be answered this weekend was, could they bring the numbers? In that respect this was an unmitigated disaster."
how many buses did faux spews rupert murdoch charter to ship in the homeless and senior citizens?
Because that is the only way you got anywhere near 60-70 K teabaggers in one place, or did you promise them a polariod of glenn beck or sean hannity?
Griff Jenkins again touts diversity of Tea Party Protest But Only White Faces Visible
Reported by Ellen - Sun 3:23 AM
Just as he did Thursday night, Fox News reporter Griff Jenkins again boasted about the diversity of the crowd at the Tea Party protest. “They are old, they’re black, they’re white, they’re male, they’re female, they’re farmers, they’re miners, they’re doctors…” I can't say whether there were farmers, miners or doctors there but I did not see a single black face in the crowd, even though Jenkins moved around it on camera. Video after the jump.
ABC Rejects Tea Party Organizers' Attendance Claims
ABC: 60,000-70,000, Not 1.5M
COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 9:30 pm PT...
How I missed the 2 million man teabagging flash mob
By kombiz Sunday Sep 13, 2009 8:00am
I apparently missed the largest flash mob in American history, and it took place just a few blocks from my house. Michelle Malkin and the redstaters have been abuzz about how there were more than two million people marching on Washington today, (that would make it bigger than even the inauguration) but all anyone who wasn't a right-winger saw was 30,000 to 60,000 right-wingers bused in from around the country.
Here's what the organizers themselves told us to expect. Dick Armey told the right-wing Newsmax that they're generating hundreds of responses in interest to the 9/12 March. The tea party patriots told us that they were expecting as many as one million to turn out and that they had permits for a one million man march on Washington.
COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 9:42 pm PT...
A number of conservative blogs have since taken the photo down. Some have corrected their posts. Others say the circulation of the picture was a left-wing conspiracy to discredit the event. However, many of them are still claiming that at least a million people attended the march. Nate Silver estimates about 70,000 protesters showed up.
It isn't the first failed attempt by the protesters to inflate the size of the event. On Saturday, organizer Matt Kibbe announced on stage that ABC News had estimated a crowd of 1 to 1.5 million. ABC News had reported no such thing.
Pressed On FreedomWorks’ Connections To Tea Parties, Dick Armey Lashes Out At TP As ‘Juvenile Delinquents’
Gaitens — who helped organize the very first pilot “tea party” protests in February and demanded that “folks … need to intimidate Congress” — is listed multiple times on the FreedomWorks’ website as the Florida Outreach Director for Armey. He has not only won awards from FreedomWorks, but he also helped organize a tea party this year where Armey was the main speaker.
Of course, Armey’s deception is the very basis on which FreedomWorks gins up support for its causes. FreedomWorks maintains several other domain addresses to promote tea party events. Last year, the Wall Street Journal exposed FreedomWorks for building “amateur-looking” websites to promote the lobbying interests of Armey.
At conservative march in D.C., a whole different reality
COMMENT #48 [Permalink]
said on 9/14/2009 @ 9:53 pm PT...
Small Protest Agst Big Govt
The initial reports suggest that today's Tea Bagging march on Washington is a pretty small affair. The Post refers to "tens of thousands" of protestors and says about 30,000 registered online for the march.
In a pretty transparent attempt to set expectations ridiculously high, a House leadership aide had sent out a memo to colleagues estimating up to two million people. Still 30,000 people seems a pretty small.
Late Crowd Size Update: And it begins. The DC Fire Department has issued an unofficial estimate of 60,000 to 70,000 people in attendance, which is smallish by big DC protest/event standards but definitely respectable. Meanwhile, organizers and various participants are claiming one or two million have shown up but that the numbers are being suppressed by pro-Obama media, etc.
These protests are the product of an orchestrated disinformation campaign run by GOP PR firm FreedomWorks. Their goal is to mislead people. What (Dick Armey's) FreedomWorks) is doing is called Astrotrufing. They're trying to create the impression of spontaneous "grassroots" protests, hence the reference to the artificial grass, AstroTurf. The goal of astroturfers is to disguise their efforts as an independent public reaction when in fact it was planned. Astroturfers orchestrate apparently diverse and geographically distributed individuals, by both overt ("outreach", "awareness", etc.) and covert (disinformation). In either case, the result is the same: Propaganda consisting of a small number of people trying to create the impression of larger numbers or uncoordinated action. Most of the protesters are Tea Party Tax protesters, also a product of FreedomWorks' nonsense factory.
912 Teabaggers in their own words
by Jed Lewison
Mon Sep 14, 2009 at 07:30:03 AM PDT
A collage from this weekend's teabagger rally in DC (photos posted by NineTwelvePhotos on Flickr):
Want more teabagging eye candy? Check out the NineTwelvePhotos photostream. Oliver Willis has a tremendous photo essay up. Delusions of Lucidity has another fun collage up as well. Huffington Post has a slideshow up too.
Faux Spews continues to perpetuate 'teh stupid'
Bill Maher's Real Time Intro this week
You have to see it, Priceless!
By nonny mouse Sunday Sep 13, 2009 1:00pm
The Ed Show is exposing the teabaggin propaganda!!!
60,000 is the most accurate estimate according to city officials.
No where near the two million malkin, limpaugh and faux spews are propagating.
Dozens of articles on local tea parties report Fox News had a hand in them
April 16, 2009 1:09 pm ET
Beck, Limbaugh run wild with estimates on size of 9/12 protests
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said on 9/14/2009 @ 10:39 pm PT...
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said on 9/14/2009 @ 11:35 pm PT...
Cafferty File: Tens of thousands protest Pres. Obama’s policies in DC
Posted: 04:00 PM ET
Here’s my question to you: What message do tens of thousands of protesters marching on Washington send to Pres. Obama?
COMMENT #53 [Permalink]
said on 9/15/2009 @ 4:35 am PT...
COMMENT #54 [Permalink]
said on 9/15/2009 @ 7:26 am PT...
Interesting, innit, how Amtrak manages to have "breakdowns" on the NY-Wash line on the mornings of demonstrations, whichever of the "two parties" happens to be fronting the show...
COMMENT #55 [Permalink]
said on 9/15/2009 @ 11:47 am PT...
oh yes brad...we know your liberal fruits never tell lies...if 3 liberals showed up to protest the toilet paper..we know the liberal MSM meant 30.000...liberals have to lie in order to be something...
COMMENT #56 [Permalink]
said on 9/15/2009 @ 1:38 pm PT...
Jude #53 it was actually 6 bio alarms that went off all over the whole area and it was definitely Tularemia because I was infected by it, so were many others.
Poor Joe #55, He is actually delusional enough to still believe there is such a thing as a "Liberal Media". ROTFL
There has NEVER been a liberal media in this country, back in the 60s and before they were mostly centrist like they were supposed to be, ever since Regan the media has been extremely Reich wing bias.
COMMENT #57 [Permalink]
said on 9/15/2009 @ 6:40 pm PT...
Nunyabiz , Thank you for the correction. I was only aware of 3. I understand it took 1 week to get the results of the testing for those devices. I could be wrong.During the the limited media coverage at the time,I pursued the issue, however, I did not get far. What I did find interesting was, according to JAMA (Journal of American Medicine) which the Federal Gov. relies on as guidelines.. It states, and they are quite specific on this.... if Tularemia is detected in an urban area,it is most likely an attack from out side. Because Tularemia is typically detected or found, in forest areas. It may also be detected in farming areas, due to unsanitary slaughtering techniques and or infected animals. I did not once see a dead rabbit on the Mall in Washington DC that day. My husband and I were both ill with flue like symptoms for nearly 3-4 weeks. My Dr. laughed when I asked him to test me. He never did.
Thank you for the information, and perhaps someone will pursue the issue. Oh, last thought, I would think that an out side attack during that time, would have been a dream come true for Government and Media. However , the story was marked by 2 statements and it ran very slowly for about a week I think , print mostly and it was a repeat.. At least as far as I could tell.
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said on 9/16/2009 @ 1:46 am PT...
Anthrax? Tularemia? Of course nothing happened like that during the corporate sponsored event... Who says this isn't Germany circa '30s?
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said on 9/16/2009 @ 5:42 am PT...
It took the ones that initiated the attack (the Department of Homeland Security) 6 days to TELL health officials. They KNEW about it immediately at 10am Saturday morning.
These sensors of which there were over 150 of them that connect to those 6 Bio Alarms are many miles apart so the ONLY explanation for this is that it was indeed aerosolized and purposely spread.
Absolutely impossible that on a day with ZERO wind, a light misty rain that a "natural" occurrence of Tularemia spread out for miles around.
Tularemia is very rare in nature in the first place and when it does occur it is not spread for miles.
There were no broadcast media be it radio or TV that covered this at all that I know of and only 2 print media ran it.
Washington Post and then Salon.com
Washington Post ran 2 stories 3 days apart which pretty much just parroted the BS spewed by DHS.
Salon.com ran the only decent story about it but by the time Mark Benjamin got a hold of people that were infected and got them to try to get tested for it, it was too late to get results during the 1-14 day incubation period.
I was extremely sick, high fever, coughing up black phlegm, and it took me 2 months to get over it. It was absolutely no way in hell the "Flu".
I tried to contact the CDC and could never get them, either would be transferred and left on hold indefinitely and in one case just hung up on and I was feeling way too bad to pursue it much more than I did.
Also when I went to go get tested for it I explicitly told the doctor what I wanted to be tested for and when the results came back it wasn't even for Tularemia.
He then tells me the Lab they use can not test for Tularemia because of the type of medium that has to be used.
I couldn't even find a place in my area that was capable of testing for Tularemia.
There were A LOT of us on the 2 buses we went in that were infected with it, we all had the same symptoms some of which mirrored flu like symptoms but lots of which was no way flu like especially the length of time we were all ill. The least of which was like you were 3-4 weeks.