READER COMMENTS ON
"Libby Apologists Now Support Bill Clinton (Apparently)"
(7 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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gtash
said on 7/7/2007 @ 10:54 am PT...
Bill Clinton underwent impeachment for his troubles. He did in fact submit to the rule of law at least to the same extent Libby has suffered---deprived of his livelihood as a lawyer, stigma of being a philanderer and liar, public humiliation---the very same things Libby gets credit for having endured in his commutation. Libby has supporters pay his fines. Clinton has supporters too.
Pardon Marc Rich? Didn't I hear the Neo-cons saying it was perfectly legal for Bush to do the same(nyah-nyah-nya-nyaaa-nyaaaaah)when the time comes?
Ford pardons. Bush Pardons. Clinton Pardons. Bush 2 half-ass pardons while keeping the other "ass" at-the-ready.
Perjury is perjury. Lying is lying. Obstruction is obstruction. Case-by-case.
It appears to me Libby's silence was purchased and a large downpayment was made. The other part is being witheld.
By the way, The Next Hurrah has an interesting article today. It appears Team Libby is preparing to protest his PROBATION too.
Impeachment is not a precise tool for addressing grievances. It has a lower standard of evidence. It has open deliberations and open disclosure of the evidence. It is sunlight. It is disinfectant. It is favored for Cheney by the majority and Bush is at 45% himself.
It's time.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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Joseph Cannon
said on 7/7/2007 @ 11:20 am PT...
Brad, I know that you are incredibly busy while attempting to one day begin a so-called "vacation." So I'm not chiding you for not reading what I've said about all this on Cannonfire.
As I point out there, the real irony in all this is that Bill Clinton pardoned Marc Rich, in large part, due to the arguments offered by Rich's lawyer...
...a fella whose name ought to be very familiar: Scooter Libby.
Much more on my site. Http://cannonfire.blogspot.com
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 7/8/2007 @ 4:07 am PT...
The neoCon fantasy or delusion, taken to its zenith, is "Bill Clinton robbed a bank so it is ok for [insert a neoCon name here] to rob a bank".
Mindless neoCon banter. That is the bottom line.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 7/8/2007 @ 4:11 am PT...
What is next ... generals spouting out propaganda about Libby? They are preznit blush's mouthpiece:
The press conference by Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, commander of the Third Division in Iraq, is a reminder that in Bush's Iraq War the top generals in the theater have become flacks for the administration.
(Huffpo, emphasis added).
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Big Dan
said on 7/8/2007 @ 8:00 am PT...
How about, USA Today runs a story, "Carter breaking tradition by bashing Bush", but when the White House bashes Clinton, there are not CMSM stories: "White House continually breaking tradition of bashing former presidents."
Remember the "big deal" the CMSM made about Carter bashing Bush? "Breaking Tradition" was the CMSM talking points handed out by those whose names we don't know, setting the news briefs "talking points".
Carter bashing Bush = "Breaking Tradition"
Bush/White House/Tony Snow bashing Clinton and invoking Clinton's name = "that's 'OK'" or "NOT breaking tradition".
Did you EVER see a sitting president or his cronies like Tony Snow, continually bashing a former president like they do to Clinton?
Another oddity, is that when Clinton bashes Bush, there are no stories in the CMSM, "Breaking Tradition". ONLY WHEN CARTER DOES IT! Why is that? Anyone know? "Breaking tradition" talking points only apply specifically to when CARTER SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT BUSH!!! And no other instances!
Do they think we're all idiots?
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 7/8/2007 @ 2:01 pm PT...
Shit yes, america just keeps getting better and better. Can you imagine how green with envy the rest of the world must be?
I must be an odd fella to them, because when I look over the american landscape and focus on what it has become, I have to resist puking.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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onthecoast
said on 7/8/2007 @ 5:43 pm PT...
Do you REALLY want to understand the reasons the reporting of such things (and many others) are so inconsistent? I did... being vision impaired reading long dull books on it I couldn't do.... Then along came online videos... Here is a very worth while video - this is a NEED to KNOW time. The upcoming elections makes it even more important to be informed. (Save the link if you don't have the time to watch now, you won't regret it.)
http://video.google.ca/v...cid=-4467655342219448521
(Quality improves after first few mintues)