Guest blogged by Winter Patriot
The Brad Show returns this week with an excellent guest list — and it promises to be a great show, if the mysterious Radio Gods will permit it.
Brad’s guests will include:
Larisa Alexandrovna of The Raw Story on the judges at the heart of the so-called “nuclear option”
Dave Astor, Senior Editor of Editor & Publisher, on the state of the mainstream media
Andrew Borene of Operation Truth speaking about Friday’s stand-down of military recruitment
John Byrne of The Raw Story to share and discuss his recent interview with Senator Dick Durbin
Jim Lampley, HBO/NBC sportscaster and Huffington Post blogger
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Join us for the first hour, in which Brad interviews Jim Lampley. Or tries to 😉 …
Last week’s interview with Jim Lampley was fantastic; unfortunately the broadcast was not! And the second half of the interview had to be “bumped” because the first half-hour of the broadcast suffered mysterious interference … This week, internet radio gremlins permitting, the first hour of the show will feature the full interview between Brad Friedman and Jim Lampley.
Lampley has been making news of great interest to Brad Blog readers lately, because of what he has written about the 2004 presidential election on Arianna Huffington’s new wild and crazy blog, The Huffington Post.
Lampley has been featured in the following Brad Blog threads:
HUFFINGTON POST: Bush Re-election ‘Biggest Crime in History of the Nation’!
ROUND 2: Jim Lampley’s Election 2004 ‘Biggest Crime in History of Nation’ Post Met With Timid Jab from National Review/Fox News’ Byron York!
‘Intellectual Conservative’ Aaron Goldstein Embarrasses Self Attempting to Embarrass Jim Lampley!
Lampley Fires Back at Goldstein!
You may also enjoy exploring these links:
Jim Lampley Biography at Huffington Post
Items of note at The Huffington Post which were written by Jim Lampley:
The Biggest Story Of Our Lives
With Apologies To Byron York
To Byron York and Other Ostriches
To Roger L. Simon: the rest of the story
The Emerging Democratic Majority
And there’s more here too:
The Huffington Post / Jim Lampley Archive
Various other Huffington Posters have stuck their respective oars in the water and links to most of their posts can be found via the BradBlog links listed above …
In the second hour, Brad will have an interview with Dave Astor and a replay of some astonishing testimony from George Galloway.
Dave Astor is the Senior Editor of Editor & Publisher.
Among his recent columns:
Syndicate Opts for Substitute Column About 2004 Election Problems
Several Papers Nix Self-Syndicated Armstrong Williams Column
Tuesday’s testimony from George Galloway has been the subject of these recent Brad Blog threads:
British MP Galloway Shames Sen. Coleman & Bush’s ‘Oil-for-Food’ Sycophants in Remarkable Testimony!
Galloway’s Senate Testimony Scrubbed from Official Subcommittee Website!
In the third hour Deputy Managing Editor Larisa Alexandrovna of The Raw Story will join Brad to speak about the judges at the heart of the so-called “nuclear option”.
For background on the attempt by Republicans to change the traditional filibuster rules in the Senate, see these Brad Blog items:
Fillibuster Blitzkreig!: GOP Senator Compares Dems to Hitler on Floor of U.S. Senate!
GOP Talking Points: ‘No Nukes’!
… and/or visit these links:
Nan Aron and the Alliance for Justice Tell Us Just What the Republicans Are Up To With Their “Nuclear Option”
The Nuclear Option
also in the third hour, Brad will speak with Andrew Borene of Operation Truth about Friday’s stand-down in military recruiting.
Andrew Borene is an outspoken advocate for America’s newest veterans. He is an Independent Consultant and currently serves as the President of the National Security & Law Society. A former Investment Banker and football coach, he is pursuing a Juris Doctor at the University of Minnesota Law School using the Montgomery G.I. Bill, and is the 2004 recipient of the Association of Former Intelligence Officers Front Line Forces graduate studies scholarship. He was an intelligence officer with the 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force and served in Iraq during major combat operations. Recent pieces by Andrew Borene include The Sound of the Ground War and Taking Care of Our Own.
In the fourth hour, Managing Editor of The Raw Story, John Byrne will join Brad to play and discuss John’s recent interview with Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL).
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Hey you guys – I’m really enjoying the interview with Lampley! Great job. The OpTruth commercial cut Jim off in mid-sentence just now. Oh well?
Great sound from the New Station!!! Good job, Brad.
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Was not being critical of OpTruth in any way — just listening!
Where’s the rest of the crowd tonight?
never imagined you were being critical of OpTruth — clearly they are not controlling when the commercials get played … and "where is everyone?" … probably "everywhere"! 😉
Hi Kira, Hi Winter Patriot
Enjoyed Lampley interview!
Been Op truth fan for awhile, good site
Hey Nana, WP & Brad – that was a powerful interview with Lampley! Really great stuff.
Is this going over the airwaves as well as over the Internets?
Yup, airwaves, Nana! Via Satellite around the globe! Picked up by an affiliate in Florida, and shortwave, etc.
Call your local station and demand they add The BRAD SHOW via Raw Radio from the IBC Radio Network!!! (www.IBCRadio.com)
Thanks for the suggestion, Brad — I’ll do just that!
here’s the full transcript of that Bill Maher show: "Real Time" transcript of May 13th
I called in and left my two cents worth. Keep up the good blogwork Brad and all.
Hey WP, I liked the articles on your site.
Here’s another fine link to another fine sponsor: DateOfReturn.Com
Sounds good streaming Brad. Unfortunately I missed the Lampley interview. Maybe I can catch it tomorrow. Hi WP, Kira, Nana.
He said "liberal type-story" — but watch out for taking on the language of the Reps– Is election fraud a liberal issue? or a mainstream issue? Has the editor also been inadvertently brainwashed, word washed?
Q for Dave Astor: is there ANY American newspaper that could take the role that WaPo did during the Watergate era?
Hi Supersoling
Try to catch the Lampley interview, I am not a sports fan, and had never heard him speak. I was very pleased, he is strong and well spoken.
Sounding good Mr. Saturday Night!
Hello Dredd, Supersoling & Valley Girl!
Great questions #16 & 17.
Bugger! missed Lampley and caught half of Editor & Publisher interview, good stuff! Clear as a bell!
Why would an editor of a newspaper decide NOT to put the Downing Street memo on the front page of the paper?
As I said where is the story about the US Soldier having sex with a male 17 year old Iraqi soldier and then killing him???????????
Raw Story and myself on my show with bloggers called Subject To Discussion Wednesdays at 6pm PT on LVROCKS.COM out of Vegas, were the only two to expose this to the world.
Where is the Ratzinger memo story as well, where he held down these investigations of priests having sex with boys????
Shaun
How about the article by Reaganite Paul Craig Roberts about that Bush should be impeached to restore American credibility???
Shaun
Gonna try to get Paul Craig Roberts on an upcoming show, Shaun…
Here’s the link:
Paul Craig Roberts – A Reputation in Tatters
Galloway in full CHOPPING, SLICING and DICING mode, I wish they had had a camera trained on Norm Coleman during George’s tirade, Norm’s body language would have been facinating!
Brad, no offence mate, re: your impersonations, keep your investigative blogging day job!! Hehe!
Thanks to Dave Astor …belated thanks to Jim Lampley too! good interviews so far!
Bushw@acker is fired 😉
I’ll double my paypal contribution if you turn off the Springsteen l-)
Some recent blog items by our third-hour guest Andrew Borene:
{ snipped — broken! imagine my dismay! }
Uh oh, links aren’t working for me, WP #31
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As we keep saying, it’s only our democracy at stake!
re #32 thanks, Kira … OOPS!
click here
re #35 please kick Larisa’s thread at DU
You might have this question already in mind, but– How soon will the draft be brought back? This is surely on the way.
Will this change the political landscape (anti-Bush)?
Hi guys! Just got in about ten minutes ago. I’ll listen tomorrow to the first hours.
I haven’t been able to pick up the stream for the whole show. My computer must be all messed up. Damn.
That Guy/Gal on the ad button is brutal!
Lots of very important questions asked by one of our fine sponsors: DateOfReturn.Com — When Are Our Troops Coming Home?? —
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Supporting our troops by listening to them … what could make more sense?
Listening to Larisa describe the Republican MO – make up a rule for whatever it is they want at the moment.
These spoiled brats don’t know how to play fair or play nice. They need a TIME OUT.
For those who have been following along but reading comments only, I should mention that the post at the top of the thread has been updated several times in the past few hours, and now contains many links to places where you can read the work of our distinguished guests — and in some cases their biographies as well. This public service has been brought to you free of charge by the Brad Show and the Brad Blog …
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As we keep saying, it’s only our democracy at stake!
LOL # 43 that is exactly what they need — a long time out in a very secure institution!
Great interview so far– no obvious questions for her– but what’s going to happen after the nuclear option is exercised (one way or the other)? BUT….
What does she think the "flash point" is going to be to turn around our (US/ politics/ religious right) current course? Something that will lead to massive public protests, civil disobedience etc.? (You can see that I am stuck in my 1970’s college generation)
Thanks to Andrew Borene and Operation Truth and here’s hoping we get to hear more from the troops on future Brad Shows
VERY secure!!! I don’t think we could sleep at night imagining jailbreaks…
You gotta have Lisa A back again!!!! Loved it.
Peg C., maybe a vacation and cuban cigars.
oops Larisa A
Thanks again to the lovely and talented Larisa Alexandrovna. Best wishes to Larisa and John and all their friends at The Raw Story
re #31, 32 — You might want to try these links for the writing of second-hour guest Andrew Borene
Abizaid, al Khadimiya, and Arlington
Protest the war, not the warriors.
See OpTruth in New York
OpTruth Vets Speak in NY
Operation Truth in NY
Operation Truth Blasts Antiwar Groups? Ft. Bragg Plans
Two Years Later, the Iraq War Continues to Drain the Military
Scraping the Barrel? Army Announces More Involuntary Call-Ups
Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell?
General dismisses medical journal’s PTSD. Steven Robinson fires back.
The Buck Stops Where? Intelligence Used to Drive Operations, But No Longer
The Ugly American
Lessons Learned
Unnecessary Casualties
A War on The Cheap Means Troops Pay the Price
With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility
Journalists Do Their Job
IBC cut off Larisa’s last comments. Darn!
I also need help with my show LOL at least your on the radio I am still on just the net with my show with bloggers.
Maybe I can bring you on in a week or two?
But where is the outrage again about troops having sex with girls and boys in Iraq?????
Eric Olson from blogcritics.org will be on with me this Wednesday but next Wednesday if your available?? Let me know
Shaun O Mac Daily
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Thank you, thank you, Operation Truth. I have a friend in the NG, just called into active duty in Iraq. His wife is due next month with their 3rd. They and their friends & families are just beside themselves with worry.
Thank you OPTruth for your website. It brings much needed information and hope as well as providing a springboard for activism.
Send me some email on Monday, Shaun…happy to do your show…
This war BS has got to stop, we must all rally to elect Hillary in 08 to stop the GOP in their tracks. On my show I have been slowly pounding the drums this far out for her.
We HAVE to start now.
Charge to the sound of the guns
Shaun
Back to comment #45 if you have the time, same question for Byrne
What does he think the "flash point" is going to be to turn around our (US/ politics/ religious right) current course? Something that will lead to massive public protests, civil disobedience etc.? (You can see that I am stuck in my 1970’s college generation)
I think the Galloway testimony combined with the Reaganite story.
Plus the real oil for food scandal of American companies stealing money would rock the rug out from under Bush and his gang.
I see all of this leading to fewer voters turning out, people are so sick of this BS.
Filibuster, Schiavo, Pope all of this covers up the real stories going on.
Shaun
Durbin just said they’re not going to shut down the Senate if Frist calls down the nuclear option. Many, many distinguished, responsible people are saying that that is exactly what MUST be done.
Winter Patriot, thank you for posting all the links! I signed on for one of the magnets from DateOfReturn.Com mostly to show support for The Brad Show!
Also, hearing Dave from Editor & Publisher confirms what we all know – we MUST support Brad Blog and The Brad Show – it’s OUR media and it’s all we’ve got!
Brad totally rocks for going so all out to provide this for us! I donate each week what I can knowing every little bit helps.
If it is found that both elections of 2000 and 2004 were illegitimately given to the repubs, what effect will that have on the judges being voted in now? Any provision to undo stuff done illegitimately?
The repubs have voted in almost all the judges so far — this is also an area of near 1 party rule.
Truthout April/2005
Repubs already rule most federal courts
My stream is back. My stream is back.
I think the American people are giving Bush a pass due to 9/11.
The confusion over WMD and on and on have our heads spinning.
Shaun
You missed some good shit, Vince 😉
For Brad and John. A concern that I am surprised no one has brought up, given the vote can now be controlled, that these republicans are not unconcerned that they might be voted out in 2006, so therefore eliminating the filibuster would be no skin off their nose. Would you ask John about that? And comment yourself?
Thanks again for asking my questions.
FWIW, I don’t think public protests and civil disobedience are going to come back until college-age folks are pushed to the wall, and re-instituting the draft is the only flash point I can think of. Sorry, I’m not very good at thinking outside of my generational box.
Gosh! "Newsweek got it wrong." Oh my. What about the abusers? How many messengers must we shoot? They were sloppy, but…
Did I hear John Byrne say we should excuse Sen. Dick Durbin for being ill-informed about the reports of Koran desecration for the past year?
re #68: yes, Peg, it really did seem as though Senator Durbin has missed the bus on the Newsweek story. That’s too bad, isn’t it?
Peg – I didn’t see your post before I posted, but add your remarks to mine — Gosh, golly-gee.
Thanks to John Byrne for yet another good session with Brad.
Look – I keep hearing this from our Congresspeople who are asked about things like Election Fraud or Clint Curtis or Raymond Lemme. They say things like, "I didn’t know anything about that."
What the hell are our Congresspeople doing all day long? Making reservations for trips to Scotland to play $1,000 per round golf?
Damn dail-up
Shaun O #57
I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but I hope you’ll rethink your position on wanting Hillary to run in ’08. In my opinion, she can’t win any red states and would likely turn some purplish/blue states red. I hope she will stay where she is needed, necessary and appreciated – NY senator. The fact that the MSM and the Repubs are pushing her is a good indication of who they know they can beat. I think it would make sense to look to those they ignore. Of course this is just mho…
Great great show tonight!! Everything was perfect!! Thank you everybody!
Dial-up
Brad – why’d you fire Bushw@cker? I miss ‘im.
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‘Ello, Mister Polly Parrot!
I’ve got a lovely fresh cuttle fish
for you if you show..
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Here’s an interesting and thoughtful columnn about Newsweek and the Koran from a Bloomberg Columnist– basically, the Newsweek story rang a bell—
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps...=aFVrKDiTrVWI#
OT, LOVE the music choices, Brad.
Hey MMIIXX — problems?
Jen #75 said:
"Great great show tonight!! Everything was perfect!! Thank you everybody!"
I heartily 2nd that comment!
Thanks guys! You all rock as usual!
And no major disasters, so the gods are with us (especially since I almost died on the way here! Literally!)
Gotta get outta the studio, so shutting down! Rock here all night long if you wanna!
Thanks WP for all!
Back to bloggin’ soon…after a nap! 🙂
Jen #75 –
Right on! Hillary playing good buddies with the Newt, edging right on abortion, playing both sides and missing the point! That’s NOT what we need in a president! We need a strong leader with strongly-held beliefs in justice, truth and the Constitution he is supposed to uphold.
Kira – Gee WHIZ!
he/she
Good night, Brad. THANK YOU! And THANK YOU again to Winter P for this thread and this fellowship.
Winter Patriot, begging for bucks, says:
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Jen #75
After Bill Clinton started appearing attached to ghwbush’s hip, then Hillary started appearing with nudie gingrich attached to her hip … all I can say is, ewwwww.
That’s a bit more than reaching out across the aisles and way closer than I want.
Good grief! My Internets was down and Peg C., there you go again echoing my sentiments exactly!
Great show!! Been listening for a couple months, Dont usually comment on a show due to my being a show host myself.
But your show is top notch. As I said maybe we can form our own little network with your show and mine???
Shaun
Winter Patriot, I think #84 should be thrown overboard.
We need to find Brad an Angel (as in Broadway "Angel"), so that he doesn’t have to keep up the modest appeals. In lieu of sending your pesos to:
Brad Scam
% Bimini Island drop box
Offshore, CA 90028
maybe 6 or 7 of you have some bright ideas as to how to accomplish this Angel thing. I believe that this was called "networking", once upon a time. See the email link. I can’t promise to reply, but I can promise to read, and to act on any great leads or great ideas.
BTW, I take sole responsibility for this endeavor. Neither this, nor the Bimini Island drop box are endorsed or instigated by Brad or the BB. Oh, sorry #84 sharky, maybe Brad did instigate the BI drop box. Offshore, CA– sounds like a great place to take a nap.
Thanks winter P:) Great job as usual.
Oh Brad, Ol’ Pal, Ol’ buddy……could I please have my old job back (what ever that entailed?) if I make a partial retraction (not a FULL NEWSWEAK RETRACTION, you understand!)
Mike Myers really needs to watch out because your George Galloway impersonation was awesome! Your Norm Coleman/Elmer Fudd voice however could benefit from some further extensive rehearsal sessions and professional voice coaching! IMO!
Here’s an audio clip (subsequently scrubbed from the U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, Website) of Senator Norm Coleman responding to George Galloway’s sworn testimony.
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…I’ve got a second-hand apron!
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Kira #86 –
Gosh all get-out! That "great minds" saying MUST be true, in reverse even! As in, "If you think alike you must have great minds." Perfect logic!
Kira,
A belated hello and thanks. I think Hillary ’08 is a Rip-off-ican plot. But Barbara Boxer from my home-of-the-heart state of CA deserves serious mention for the ’08 ticket.
VG
Valley Girl #93 –
So do I.
#94 Hi Peg C.
All great XX minds think alike. Oh, except maybe Hillary is not XX. Or maybe not a great mind. Sorry, Hillary, that was a rude swipe. You did a great job in sticking with Bill, and probably have done a great job as NY Senator. But, Hillary, XX queen bees like yourself don’t know how hard life is for the rest of the hive. I think BB, aka Barbara Boxer (not BB aka BradBlog, sorry, Brad) has the goods for the ’08 we are talking about.
VG
So, is Barbara Boxer in the running?
Kira #96
I think it depends on 6 or 7 of us. I don’t know anything about her future plans, but if I had to name one XX I’d like to see on the ’08 ticket, I’d say Barbara Boxer. I say she has the goods. What do you think?
VG
Well — I really don’t know who to trust anymore. I might vote for George Galloway if he wants to run.
I’m sick of prissy repubs & spineless dems.
Hey – where was Torqued tonight?
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Enough of this gay banter.
So, now Mr Anchovy, you asked us to advise you
which job in life you were best suited for.
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Hillary = No, no, no, no – she’s the republican pick to try and make it less obvious they are manipulating the voting machines. They’ll say, see: A Democrat won, that proves we are not fixing the elections. Meanwhile, she and Bill are cosying up to Bush. Anyone who can stand to see, hear or think about Bush for more than three seconds without feeling absolute revulsion, and an urgent need to escape, wouldn’t be a suitable candidate IMO. Hillary and Bill know Rove rigged the elections. They are now making deals. If the repubs. let Hillary be President, then here’s what’s she’ll do for them…
Mr. Conyers, or Mr. Cobbs, or someone else. Barbara Boxer. Or someone new to politics. Americans need to put a wrench in the republican shenanigans. And by republicans I include those supposed "democrats" who vote with the repubs.
You need to do exactly with they DON’T WANT YOU TO DO. Vote for someone new.
VALLEY GIRL #93
I think you’re 100% on the money VG!
I can see it all now in flashing lights, in my crystal ball!
Newt’s Hill-Billy’s 08 Run For The White House Show, A Karl Rove Production, gets great opening season ratings, the MSM build her up, the public adore her, then disaster! 1 month out!…….what’s this, FRESH WHITEWATER ALLEGATIONS surface!
Result: 4 MORE NEOCON YEARS!
Postscript:
The violent gang rape of Miss Liberty continues as George hands her battered lifeless body over to a drooling brother Jeb, to be sodomized some more.
Hi, Kira #98 – right on the mark!
AMEN Peggy #100 & Bushw@cker #101
Peggy #100 DING! DING! DING! (are we still doing that? )
Looks like we’re all of like mind tonight!
Kira #98
Given that George Galloway is not likely to become a US citizen any time soon… what do you mean about prissy repubs & spineless dems? Okay, I see the general drift of your comment. I’ll leave out the prissy repubs, because I know what you mean. And, as for spineless dems (dims?) I would certainly include Kerry. But Barbara Boxer doesn’t seem to be spineless among the dims. I have no insight as to what motivates BB, or what agenda she might have in mind for the future, but my guess is that she says what she says because of the personal beliefs that drive her participation in the political process. She has asked all of the good and hard questions that I would have asked her to ask, had I thought of them, so I don’t see her as having a dim view of things. So, I trust her. Whaddya think?
VG
Valley Girl #104
If Barbara Boxer helps us get rid of Black Box Voting Machines — I WILL CAMPAIGN MY F*NG ASS OFF FOR HER!!! FOR 3 1/2 YEARS NON-STOP!!!
#101 Bushw@cker
Thanks for your 100% support, me being in the money etc. But, question for you, should I just cut to the chase and go throw up in the toilet now, or do I have to wait another few years to repeat a "bad clam" experience with Hillary at the helm? No flashing lights, no crstal ball, just throwing up in the toilet, and praying that it will be over soon?
To spare me that miserable experience, what alternatives can you suggest?
Fondly,
VG
Belated [because I got called away just before the end of the show] Thanks to Brad … and congratulations, too: this one went much better than usual 😉
Thanks to all who have contributed to the open thread [with one or two possible exceptions]…
And a special Thanks to those who have contributed to the coffers. We couldn’t do it without you!
as Detective Columbo used to say, "Just One More Thing" …
LOL @ # 84. And thanks to Sharkey for the best laugh of the night.
I can’t add anything to this comprehensively informed, erudite thread except to say that you’re all 24 karat and that we are in this mess together.
What about the NYT story chronicling the death-by-torture of an innocent cab-driver in Afghanistan? Is reporting this a lesser crime than Newsweeks’s mention of the desecration of the Koran? What about the desecration of a human being, body and spirit?
I’m sick. This whole unbelievable nightmare has GOT to stop. WE HAVE GOT TO STOP IT.
Brad #109
Thanks Brad, you’re an understanding Boss!
I’ll admit straight up that I suffer from mild tinnitus, from standing too close to those Marshall Stacks over the years, ….yes probably fried my brain as well!
Good call by you on the similarity of Elmer Fudd’s voice and that of Senator Norm Coleman’s, which got me thinking that maybe the Bush Administration had outsourced the Oil For Food Hearing to Warner Bros’ Loony Tunes Dept in Hollywood!
Th’-th’-th’-th’-th’-th’-that’s All, Folks!
Well done for yet another stimulating, The Brad Show!
Sound quality was excellent, the ad breaks jarred a bit, I gather that was due to a time delay, ….. all in all, top notch!
P.S. Missed Jim Lampley, so I’ll have to hold my horses, until the Show mp3 is posted.
Serious The nuclear option countdown has begun.
The filibuster will be challenged on Tuesday. Fill out a petition that the senators can read in the senate during the filibuster (link here).
I feel like maybe the tide is turning. I know, I know. Bad sign that "the Memo" has been ignored, and it’s still uphill.
But hey, once on the downhill, the tide will be out!
My son’s in guard, his unit is going to Irag around Sept. For the 3rd time in 4 years, they are going to Middle East!!
Just thank you, thank you, thank you all.
O yeah. What are the fish references?
Xymphora has a good precis of what Coleman’s "smoke screen" was covering. Link here.
Bushw@cker – You’re hired again! Glad to have ya back! Sorry for that little "incident". We’ll forget it ever happened 😉
VALLEY GIRL #106
Firstly, seafood that comes in shells has always scared the hell out of me, having been locked in one too many intimate toilet bowl embraces!
I might sound like I’m chickening out big-time on your question here, but I would be backing the ABAN option, (anyone-but-a-Neocon*) *read (Most) Republicans & (Some) Democrats, in the hope that some Boxer/Conyers-like candidate rises to the top in time to save this faltering Democracy. I share your cynicism, and I’m nauseated by the fact that the best candidate (most ethical, most progressive etc, etc) will rarely ever make first base, when it comes to party leadership endorsement!
Ditto Ditto in Australia where I reside.
I don’t believe Hillary can make it because of her "Chappaquiddick"
Sorry VG, I don’t think my response will provide you with any relief!
In solidarity, BARFW@CKER
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If this is what you’re refering to, it’s part of very juvenile exchange between KIRA and myself, two Monty Python tragics.
Sadly, there’s no cure currently available for this!
VALLEY GIRL made a fishy reference at #106, blame her!
With the talk of who we could support in ’08, I’m gonna out myself here and I don’t know how you guys will take it but I have to speak out.
I’ve been a General Clark supporter since I heard Michael Moore speak about him in Santa Cruz, Oct. 03. Being a registered Green it never occurred to me to look into a General, but I liked what Michael said about him so I went home and started looking into the General. I liked what I was finding out and joined the S.C. for Clark group where I met so many people who felt the way I did. We felt like we were being offered the president we were promised as children. I thought because I was in Santa Cruz it wasn’t unusual that there were many children of the ’60’s (yep, old hippies) who were turned on by him. Turns out it’s not just in Santa Cruz that that’s the case!
The more I learned the more involved I became in supporting him. It continues to amaze me how many General Clark supporters reacted the same way – they had never been so passionate about someone running for a political office before and many are involved in politics for the first time in their lives.
Now I know many people hear "General" and don’t want to go any further than that. I don’t know if that’s the case with you guys, but if I can offer a few links to introduce you to him I think you’ll see that he is an amazing person. I’ve had the pleasure to meet him and hear him speak a few times and you just KNOW when you see and hear him that this is an honest, incredibly intelligent, caring person. And a flaming liberal to boot!
One thing is for certain. General Clark will have a hard time getting media coverage. He was essentially blacked-out during the primaries and it is well known he will not bow down to the corporate masters. One article I read referred to him as "Karl Rove’s worst nightmare!"
I’ll post a few links and hope you’ll check him out.
The first is an article from Esquire Magazine August, 2003 and gives a pretty good intro into who he is and what he’s about.
This is an interview from Rolling Stone October, 2003.
Talking Points Memo interview with General Clark, October, 2003.
A thread from CCN , (Clark Community Network) February 2004, that I’d saved because it sort of reflects how I feel about General Clark.
And this is from Political Strategy, April 21, 2005, with links to Daily Kos which then has a link to The Political Dogfight where you can hear his speech at the CA Democratic convention. (scroll down to April 21)
And finally, another link to a thread at CCN which is a compilation of General Clark quotes…
I apologize if this is too long or puts anybody off! You can also check out General’s new PAC, Securing America. At the "Take Action" link there’s a couple petition’s you can sign and the CCN blog is under "Community" where you’ll find a wonderful, caring, intelligent, informed, fun group most hours of the day or night!
Here’s an analysis of the "Amateur Hour document forgery" presented as "evidence" by Sen Norm "Elmer Fudd" Coleman at the "Mother of all smokescreens"
My 8 year old would have done a far more professional cut & paste, unlike this crappy one that runs down hill! (note: in the enlargement of the doc)
This is an outrage and an abuse of Congress and the MSM "should" be going ballistic over this obvious forgery!
………..the Sounds of Silence.
Game, Set and Match: George Galloway
Jen #118 –
You’re a woman after my own heart and head. We supported Clark passionately last year, and I’d like to see a lot more of him now. He’s not a "politician’s politician," thank God – but for that very reason he doesn’t make it into many post-election headlines.
Should we ask him to start a blog not connected to CNN?
Bushw@cker #119 –
I saw that this AM and was going to post it here but forgot. Pretty blatant! Let’s make LOTS of noise, especially in light of this Wayne Madsen report.
I saw Howard Dean on "Beat the Press" this morning, and I just wanted to let Brad know that Dean impressed me very much. I think I may have been wrong when I said here that he was the wrong man for the job way back when.
PEG C #121 Breathtaking isn’t it?
Agreed! Madsen report links it all up nicely!
Wonder if it would be worth contacting Carol Towarnicky at the Philly News to draw her attention to this blatant forgery presented to Congress as evidence!
High Quality clip of "When The President Talks To God" By Bright Eyes link here.
Cronies pyramid anybody, is this correct ?
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice sat on the board of Chevron before she joined the Bush White House as National Security Adviser. The company named one of its oil supertankers the SS Condoleezza Rice.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Sp...105madsen.html
Has anybody seen the idea to boycott oil companys by selecting say the biggest two companys and NObody buy from them until some results are seen.
Some span I recieved had the idea.
We would buy from any other company for a period and never from the two companys being boycotted that way the affects on the comsumer are nil but would effect the bottomline of the "target company"(s) profoundly (after a month or so).
Any comments?
mick
Hi, Jen #118 – I too was very impressed with General Clark. The first problem is that he has to get thru the primaries and become the democratic candidate. Either that, or run as an independent(??). Which is more difficult to achieve???
Once he becomes the Democrat nominee, I thought that one way to control and audit the "fixed elections", is for Clark supporters to man "voting stations" across the street from the official election voting stations, so that anyone who votes for Clark can cross the street and "vote again" at the Clark voting booth, providing a name, address, signature, time and date. Once the "official" votes are tallied, then the votes for Clark should approximate the votes for Clark recorded at the Clark voting station. The Clark voting records can be checked against the "official" records, where people sign in and are checked off before they actually vote. It is a simple concept, but like all endeavours requires dedicated work.
My philosophy is if the officials will not do their jobs, then you have to do it yourself. Hold your own elections. Prove the criminals wrong and guilty. Don’t sit around waiting for someone else to protect your interests or get the person you want into office. General Clark seemed like a great Presidential candidate to me!!!!(???)!!!! Who would be his VP????
Hi, Brad and everyone! I recently wrote to someone I don’t know, a philosopher of sorts, and asked the following question, and to my surprise, received a response, an interesting one.
Q: The very important question that needs answering is just if, and when and how, are the good people of America going to remove the rotten corruption of America’s elite that runs from the Republican-dominated Supreme Court on down that has taken absolute control of their country, and will lead to the ruination of their lives and cause further damage and destruction in the world. Because time is running out to stave off considerable suffering in our lifetimes. We desperately need good and intelligent and talented leaders.
A: The opposition, whoever or whatever party, must clearly define an alternative policy to that of the neo-Conservatives. And, Howard Dean ‘was’ right when he said the Democrats need to reach out to white rednecks from the South who drive trucks with gun wracks and display stars and bars decals on their bumpers. An opposition that seeks to unite red and blue Americans and addresses the hopes and fears of both is needed. An opposition to the Republicans that believes in fairness delivered to all–rich or poor, religiously right or left. But above all, do not react to the Republican right, transcend them with a clear plan and dream for America. I think the move to make Howard Dean the Chairman of the Democratic Party was a sign that AT LAST the Democrats MAY be ready for a political death and resurrection.
Finally, it is time to lose the "jackass."
The Democrats need a better totem than a donkey if they want to inspire Americans.
Mmixx #125 –
I recently posted the idea of a "buycott" – buy ONLY Citgo products, because they benefit the people of Venezuela directly (Chavez’ project) and do not fill anonymous corporate coffers. It’s a good plan and (whew!) easy for me to adhere to since our local Irving station was just replaced by a Citgo self-serve.
Peg! #120&126,
So happy to hear that!! General Clark has had a blog going since he entered the race! He never took it down – pretty much let us self-moderate ourselves all that time and has just recently incorporated it into his new PAC website! I referred to it in my long ass post and posted a couple links that go to CCN – Clark Community Network (the blog). (Not CNN! LOL!)
He’s being very very active, traveling almost constantly, speaking everywhere. There’s some posts now at CCN of the events of the last week.
He spoke in Chicago Friday and in Atlanta yesterday at an ACLU event.
He was on Late Edition today. (This link goes to a blog at CCN where Lara posted the transcript.)
If you go to CCN, on the left column you’ll see "Recent blog posts." Scroll down and you’ll see "more." Click that and you’ll get a long listing of individual’s blog posts. You can enter an individual blog (basically starting your own thread) or join in the "General Discussion" thread.
Most people hang at "General Discussion" thread which you can access at the top of the Clark Community Network page. You don’t have to register to read, but you do to post.
You can also get there through Securing America. That’s the main page to his PAC and you can see all his events listed there as well as links to some petitions he’s started and some blog postings from General himself. Link to the blog is at top of the page – "community"
So much good stuff going on. We’ve been informing him of all the election stuff and he’s now addressing that in his speeches. One of the regular bloggers is putting together an extensive election fraud report that I’m helping edit and format sections to get to General Clark. It’s incredibly detailed – from all the crap that went on in the election, to the history of the electronic voting machine companies and the criminals who own them – the whole thing! He’s going to know as much as we do by the time we’re done! We’ve already been sending him links and articles so he’s aware of it. I love your hands on idea for elections! If people aren’t willing to step up and be involved, we’re screwed!
Check out this closing section from General’s speech yesterday at the ACLU event in Atlanta!
We cannot win the war on terror.
We cannot fix our educational system.
We cannot deliver health services to Americans.
We cannot improve our business climate, if we don’t tend to the most basic factors in America and that is the rule of law and our constitutional liberties and bill of rights. (CHEERS)
So that brings me back to the great soldiers standing on the football field today, they were fighting for America. They were fighting for you and me. And they were fighting to the best of their ability.
It’s the contribution they could make but it’s not enough. If we’re going to succeed in the world, if we’re going to meet our ideals of opportunity and justice and hope for every American and let our light shine brightly around the world for others as our obligation is, then we have to fix and work and struggle and improve our own political system, we’ve got to ensure quality of life, we’ve got to fix the voting issues, we’ve got to treat people with respect and dignity.
We’ve go to make sure every person in America has the opportunity to be all all he or she can be and to do that we can’t go to people in uniform. We don’t have enough people in uniform.
With this organization, with you all, with your personal courage, with your consistency and with your dedication and determination, you’re going to win this battle for us and you’re going to make sure the ideals of that flag are the realities of life for America for Americans and the realities that the rest of the world sees when they deal with our country.
That’s patriotism and that’s service. And that’s the American Civil Liberties Union! THANK YOU
Mmiuxx #125 & Peg C. #128:
Here’s the link to the piece about the Buy-cott. There’s a link there to find the CITGO station nearest you!
Everyone should see this BBC documentary: "Iraq, Tony & the Truth"
http://www.overcast.pwp.blueyon...qtonytruth.htm
It is absolutely outstanding. Please, I cannot recommend anything any higher. It is a stunning documentary. It uses the downing street memo/minutes as only a small chunk of the total evidence that proves Blair and Bush lied about the war. Other evidence includes numerous interviews and statements in the public record. It broadcast in the UK on 3/20/05 – 2 years after the launch of the war. It’s a great example of investigative journalism that is sorely lacking in the US.
Bush & Blair knew the evidence was poor.
They committed to going to war.
They sought to find more evidence to bolster the case.
They did not find much more evidence. (What they did find was stuff like Curve Ball/Mobile WMD labs, and we know how that went. Curve Ball was 1/2 of the new evidence in the 2nd round of sifting through the intelligence).
Then, after not finding any additional evidence for going to war, they went to war anyway.
MMIIXX #124 re: Kinda-Lies Rice on Board of Chevron
From The Black Commentator:
The Role Model’s Burden
Condoleezza Rice is 129,915 tons of deadweight. There, I said it, and it felt good.
Actually, that’s the deadweight tonnage of the oil tanker previously known as Condoleezza Rice, christened in her honor by Chevron for services rendered while Rice sat on the oil giant’s board of directors, from 1991 until the day before Bush took office. That’s right, she went straight from a job with Big Oil to a job with…Big Oil. So did half of the White House.
Naturally, they’ll all be going back to their respective oil companies when Bush leaves the Oval Office. A fleet of oil tankers will be lined up along the Potomac River, newly emblazoned with the names of their returning executives and directors. The Altair Voyager (Bahamas registry) will once again sail the slicked seas as the mighty Condoleezza Rice.
(She was also on the Board of Enron!)
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Well I now have the results here of the interviews and the aptitude tests that you took last week, and from them we’ve built up a pretty clear picture of the sort of person that you are.
And I think I can say, without fear of contradiction, that the ideal job for you is chartered accountancy.
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Jen –
Thank you, thank you, thank you! My face is fifty different shades of crimson because I haven’t researched these sites myself! There’s something about tanking in a craven primary and then having your second-best handbag stolen at the main gate that reduces one’s capacity for determination.
Clark has been my "man" from the outset, because of his honesty, integrity, humility and experience; and, furthermore, he has the intellect to extricate us from the worst death-trap this country has ever baited itself into. I’m not an idol-worshipper, but I think he is probably our best hope.
Jen #129, Peg C. — thanks for the links & update on Gen. Clarke. I’m studying him now!
I’ll be interested to know how he reacts to the reams of election fraud data we can give him. Somebody’s got to do something before 2008 or it won’t matter who we vote for (again.)
re my #134 — Oops, sorry (sp.) Gen. CLARK!
Si, Kira… all the BEST Clarks eschew the final "e."
P.S. No known relation.
Peg C #133 — Let’s get him on the BradShow!!!
I know this is off-topic.. and I’m sorry for posting as such… (at least I aimed at an ‘open’ thread!!) but just wondered…
Does anyone know if it was the police that lied about the Raymond Lemme case (the "no photos" lie).. and who the police officers (and their immediate superiors) were at the time?
thnx.
btw.. I sent Blair the questions that Conyers posed to Bushco (about the memo.. and formulating justification around the policy [a.k.a lying so we can kill people and steal their resources])… a fortnight later and still no answer. I’ll be re-sending this to Blair and CC’ing editors for all of our national newspapers and terrestrial TV stations over here…. after all.. it was only 5 simple questions, most of which could be answered yes or no and he’s failed to even do that in a timely fashion.
Peace!!
@bushw@cker, peg and others…
Please be weary with Madsen, at least…if you’re referring to Wayne Madsen!!
He nearly screwed up the Election Fraud stories with his bullshit check/cheque that turned out to be a fake. (luckily most of us ignored that story and figured out that there were too many holes for it to do our movement any good.
Not saying it’s his fault… I’d just be weary… mistakes like that are occasionally down to the efforts of Karl Rove and his insideous connections. – just warning to be weary of citing Madsen’s articles unless you can corroborate his conclusions elsewhere. (I don’t want us all to be tripped up by any fake crap Madsen may have had ‘leaked’ to him like last time!!) – and we still haven’t had a good explanation of why Wayne was so fired up over his fake check last time??
From Wayne Madsen, I’d still like some answers and for him to expose those who were involved in providing him with this forged document. – Whoever they were, they were trying to destroy the vote-fraud allegations and should be exposed.
Until Wayne Madsen explains where this damaging piece of non-evidence came from… be weary… he may appear on our side… but until he comes clean about the fake check and the source(s)… I wouldn’t trust him as much as others here do (even though he is making the right noises!!)
Peace!!
Bejammin075 #131
I will never understand why Tony Blair hooked his wagon to Bush’s train. Clearly, he is an extremely bright man (so is Charles Manson !) and should have forseen this outcome, which damaged him and his country immeasurably. Bush on the other hand, simply doesn’t care. Afterall, according to him, what the history books say about this period doesn’t matter because we’ll all be dead.
Colleen #114
How is your son doing? I can’t imagine what it must be like for him to be heading out on his fourth tour. Can you share any of his thoughts about this whole mess? You know the Republicans say that the left doesn’t care about the "troops", and that pisses me off more than just about anything. I’m about as anti-war a person you will find, but that has nothing to do with honoring a soldier’s bravery and commitment to country, and that includes caring enough about them not to send them into impossible situations, caring enough about them to properly equip them so they can defend themselves. Caring enough about them to bring them home safely. I honor your son’s courage and service Colleen, and I will keep him, and those in his unit in my thoughts.
Peg C (without an e) #133
Kira #134
I would be very interested to listen to Wes Clark answer some questions on the Bradshow. We need to know more about him. I have some questions about some of his military judgements made while in Kosovo, one in particular when he was, apparently, ready to send American troops to challenge Russian troops for occupation of an airport, if I have that right. It seemed to be a potentially volatile situation. Clearly he is very articulate and well spoken, and no one could doubt his concern and care for the military, but I want to know what he plans to do for all of the millions who find themselves without medical coverage, what he will do about the loss of manufacturing and IT jobs overseas. What he will do about the criminal inequities between the "haves" and the "have nots". There are many things to ask him. I am very, to put it mildly, ambivilent about Hillary Clinton running for President even though I voted for her to be my Senator. Hopefully there will be a wide field of Democrats running in ’08 than we can look at, but, and I mean *BUT*
Peace
Supersoilind #141,
Have you seen the documentary I ref’d above?
Brad, you’re an idiot. Why? Your theories about American forces killing mass numbers of civilians and journalist – as you stated on the Lou Gentile show – is utterly ridiculous. Have you interviewed any American troops? Their commanders?
Your claims are almost as baseless as those comparing Revenge of the Sith to a warning against voting for Republicans. All the movies were written prior to Reagan. I put your stupid conpiracies just beneath those about George Lucas.
{ed note: Comment deleted since it was made by “praetorian” with a different name. We don’t delete for content, but we do delete when posters attempt to appear as different people agreeing with themselves. Pick a name and stick to it “praetorian”/”giggler”. And to answer your question, yes, if you’d listed to The BRAD SHOW either last week or this week, you would have heard our interviews with two different Iraq War vets concerning their experiences in the war and since they’ve been home. We are in regular contact with a number of troops and their commanders, both on the ground in Iraq and back here in the states.}
For Pratetorian: I suggest you send the message you posted as Comment #143 to the parents of Pat Tillman, who was shot to death by American troops, after which the Army claimed he was shot by Afghan rebels. I suspect Mr. and Mrs. Tillman think the real conspiracy theorist in Pat’s case was the Bush administration.
Giggler #144 You have made a very fraudulent statement.
According to exit poll science the chance of your statement having merit is much greater than a million to one.
Only odd folk would base big decisions on such odds in such a caviler manner.
Giggler #144
Not sore loser’s, just motivated. Motivated to protect the bedrock institution that makes America what it is. Besides, what are you worried about? If you’re right then you should thank us for our diligence, and if you’re wrong, we’ll thank you for your fuckin treason.
Bejammin #142
Not yet friend. I’ll try to get to it tonight after work. Thanks again for the heads up.
Peace
Supersoling #141, Peg, Peggy, Kira, anyone who’s interested…
This LINK has several articles about General Clark’s military judgements made while in Kosovo.
This LINK is to the "Issues" section of his archived 2004 campaign site.
For those questioning the fact that our elections are replete with fraud – if you’re actually interested, here’s a LINK to Chuck Herrin’s site. Chuck Herrin = Republican.
Hey Jen, Peg C., Supersoling & others looking into Gen. Clark as a candidate — I read the transcript of his Blitzer interview & this statement of his kinda-sorta bothers me. I don’t really know where he’s coming from:
CLARK: We should have dealt with North Korea first, Iran second, and Iraq third, because that was the order of the significance of the proliferation threat. The administration went after it backwards, unfortunately.
What was he suggesting here? Was he suggesting we should have waged war on North Korea first, etc.?
Just wondered if he was interested in waging war on all these countries, in which case I would disagree with his policy.
Anybody have more info on his stand on war, Imperialism, Dominionism?
To answer Praetorian’s question #143 (who posted immediately afterwards on #144 using a different name), yes, if you’d listed to The BRAD SHOW either last week or this week, you would have heard our interviews with two different Iraq War vets concerning their experiences in the war and since they’ve been home. We are in regular contact with a number of troops and their commanders, both on the ground in Iraq and back here in the states.
If you have any information to suggest that over 100,000 Iraqi Civilians were not killed by American troops during this War on Iraq, please feel free to share it with us.
The claim of "100,000 Iraqi civilians dead" was an estimate — based on the best available data — first published last fall! That was before the demolition of Fallujah, before the similar attacks on other Iraqi cities, before a substantial increase in the rate of indiscriminate bombings of residential areas [as reported by Seymour Hirsch]. The true number of dead Iraqi civilians is undoubtedly much higher today than it was last fall. What is it now? 120,000? 150,000? We may never know.
One thing we do know for sure: the reality of this war is nothing like what you see on CNN.
Kira #150-
Kira #150-
Regarding General Clark’s comments on Late Edition yesterday – he often stresses the need to use diplomacy and dialogue – finding acceptable solutions to relations with N. Korea, Iran, Iraq, etc. He has spoken about how North Korea doesn’t want to go to war, just to have us recognize them – that we should talk directly with them. He made similar comments about Iraq before W invaded – he was never in favor of invasion.
During the election cycle, I heard the General say that Bush does not know how to properly negotiate with NK/Kim Jong-il. Bush is causing more problems with the way he is "handling" the areas in Asia and the Middle East.
Every time I’ve heard General Clark speak he has stressed that military action should only ever be taken as a last, last, last resort. He knows what war is and would never put his soldiers in a war unless there was no other option.
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I’ll Be Voting For Wesley Clark/Good-Bye Mr. Bush
–by Michael Moore
He is anti-war. Have you heard his latest attacks on Bush over the Iraq War? They are stunning and brilliant. I want to see him on that stage in a debate with Bush — the General vs. the Deserter! General Clark told me that it’s people like him who are truly anti-war because it’s people like him who have to die if there is a war. "War must be the absolute last resort," he told me. "Once you’ve seen young people die, you never want to see that again, and you want to avoid it whenever and wherever possible." I believe him. And my ex-Army relatives believe him, too. It’s their votes we need.
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Clark "suggesting we should have waged war on North Korea first, etc."???? Good lord no!
Did you not hear the part of the Blitzer interview when he was talking about why the military option would NOT be a good idea? Where he warned Perle against underestimating the NK military, and not thinking what the aftermath might be like for the Korean people?
Clark is on record, a number of times, saying we should be talking directly to NK, instead of using China as an itermediary. Essentially the same thing for Iran and Europe. He believes you have to make potential enemies realize why it’s in their own interests not to proliferate WMD. He favors a carrot and stick approach, but the "stick" should NOT have to be the threat of invasion unless the threat is imminent and all other means have failed.
Clark has ALWAYS said that war should only be the LAST resort.
That said, he does see NK and Iran as greater threats than Iraq ever was and felt the priority of effort should have been against those two countries. But that hardly means he favors going to war with them.
As for Clark’s views on imperialism, I’d suggest you read his second book (and please note the sub-title): Winning Modern Wars: Iraq, Terrorism and the American Empire. Clark was one of the first to call the Bush neo-con agenda what it is: imperialism.
In his concluding paragraphs, he writes: "We don’t need the New American Empire. Indeed, the very idea of classic empire is obsolete. An interdependent world will no longer accept discriminatory dominance by one nation over others."
Whew! My mind is relieved!! Thanks so much for the input on my questions regarding Gen. Clark & his position on going to war.
I really wish Brad would contact him to be on the BradShow. Gen. Clark sounds like the guy I want to vote for.
I’ll campaign my butt off for a wise and rational man (or woman) who has cajones enough to stand up to the arrogant, idiotic neo-theo-CONS along with.
I’ll continue studying up on him — and by the way — thanks for the information!
The Nashua Advocate has held a mock election for 2008 candidates – "Clark" had to default due to multiple votes by the same people (tsk..tsk.) Who knows how the group of responders equates to the real world, but if Clark is going to make it, we will have to do some "hard work" to get his message out.
Spelling: cojones
Actually, Brad, I do have information that the entire story about 100K +/- Iraqi civilians being killed by American forces is false. Being an American military officer who aided commanders both in the field and the Pentagon for the last four years, I can assure you the only person(s) responsible for killing mass numbers of people in Iraq was its former dictator. It’s truly sad that you and even real journalists fail to concentrate on Hussein’s crimes and prefer to invent tales attempting to incriminate your own people.
Dredd? Exit poll science? Here’s a perfect time to explain how ridiculously moronic you Liberals really are. Exit polls. Hmm, where have we seen their predictions before? Oh, the last election … and they were wrong.
But they were right in every state that used paper ballots. They were right in the Florida Senate race. And they were right in the Ukraine, apparently, because we used them to tell the world Ukraine’s election was fraudulent.
They were only "wrong" in the U.S. presidential race, and only in those states where votes could be flipped electronically from Kerry to Bush and where tabulators could be tampered with. And electronic machines and tabulators are all manufactured by companies with ties to the Republican party. And the source codes inside these machines, which could reveal fraud, remains the private property of these Republican-connected companies.
Guess it’s moronic to even repeat these facts, though…because some people just don’t get it.
Nice try Robery (#159) but we really can’t expect to make any difference to somebody who claims to be "an American military officer who aided commanders both in the field and the Pentagon for the last four years" and who also claims that "the only person(s) responsible for killing mass numbers of people in Iraq was its former dictator".
LOL @ praetorian — what a pile of crap!
Kira –
We’ll convert you yet! Clark is a true statesman, something this country doesn’t produce any more. He’s gentle and reasonable, but has strength and determination in equal measure. And, by the way, he was a Rhodes scholar in economics.
Winter Patriot #160 –
I wonder sometimes where some people get the idea that saying something makes it true. It’s as if someone like this could actually WATCH a bomb strike kill 50 people or so, women and children strewn bleeding and in pieces all around, and say either that it did not happen or that somehow, retroactively, Saddam was responsible for the carnage. Or that these were actually "terrorists" in clever disguises.
Praetorian pretended:
"Actually, Brad, I do have information that the entire story about 100K +/- Iraqi civilians being killed by American forces is false."
Swell. Share it with us! Until then, you’re hot air, my friend.
As accurate on that point as you are on the Exit Polls which your own "President" used in Ukraine (Exit Polling done by same company in Ukraine as in US, btw) to decry "fraud".
Anyway, when you have any kind of evidence — instead of empty, unsupported conspiracy theories — to offer, let us know!
Brad, as soon as you put your nonexistent evidence on display that proves your conspiracy theory, then I’ll be waiting to provide verifiable evidence showing that you’re the only fraud here.
By the way, have you even been to the Middle East or the Ukraine?
Hey Winter, thanks for proving that Liberals really do despise their own military.
The Roman Empire, Praetorian. The disgusting, depleted, debauched Empire that Nero hiccupped and vomited to its end and that the Praetorian Guard slept through in drunken oblivion.
Your moniker is priceless.
*giggle* A little history is always fun:
The Roman praetors were first established in 367 B.C.. They evolved into the Praetorian Guard that came to exercise great power, making and unmaking emperors and allowing political and military action outside of the law.
What rules that were observed were announced by the issuance of edicts.
The Guard was characterized by corruption and political venality and was closed down by Constantine in 312 A. D.
Doggone Peg C. — Here I am trying to post this and my connection went down — by the time I’m back on line you beat me again!!
Hahah.
This is how some putative conservatives think.
Fact: Al Gore was shown to have won 2000 election.
Fact: George W. Bush plans secret invasion of Iraq, which he had never mentioned in the campaign.
Fact: 9/11 happens. Bush uses it to justify invasion of Iraq.
Fact: Intelligence used to connect 9/11 to Saddam Hussein is bogus.
Fact: Bush and Cheney insist on connection even after it is proven false.
Fact: Bush also claims Iraq has WMD, based on same bogus intelligence.
Fact: Bush administration claims Iraq buying uranium from Niger, which had already been denied by our then ambassador on the scene.
Fact: U.S. military bombs Baghdad, calls it "Shock and Awe." Included among the shocked and awed victims are children asleep in their beds.
Fact: Bush gives victory speech on aircraft carrier in front of a sign boasting, "Mission Accomplished."
Fact: Since "mission was accomplished," over 1,600 American soldiers have died, another 10,000 or more wounded (many maimed), and Iraqis have died in the hundreds of thousands.
Fact: An American protest movement arises, led by a cross-section of liberals, moderates and conservatives. Included among those critical of the Iraq invasion are arch-conservatives William F. Buckley, Jr. and Pat Buchanan.
Conclusion: American liberals hate our military.
LMAO, you idiots act like your own Presidents never did any of the above. Funny.
Who is "my own president?" I’m a political Independent, 63 years old, who has voted for a Democratic candidate exactly twice since 1964, when I voted for Goldwater. Other than Kerry, the only Democrat I voted for was McGovern…and the reason was the same, i.e., I thought the incumbent Republican was a crook. I was right about Nixon, and I expect to be proven right about Bush.
Everyone except you is an idiot. All idiots are liberals, and all liberals are idiots. There is no such thing as a person who believes in honest elections, except for liberals and idiots, and their motivation isn’t honesty, it’s hatred of the military.
I don’t indulge in name calling. But I must tell you your postings make little or no sense, Praetorian.
Good, concise list, RLM.
Add to the list:
We, who spoke (and continue to speak) out against sending our ill-prepared, precious soldiers into battle under unproved, false "intelligence" information and into an unprovoked war with Iraq are accused of hating our military.
Nothing could be farther from the truth.
BTW – if depraevetorian laughed his ass off — there can’t be anything left … LOL!
I posted this on another thread and it maybe got missed — looks important to me…..
(Posted 5/23/05)
Interestingly enough, Keith Olbermann has just reported (with videotape) that Santorum in 2003 compared the New York Times with the Nazis, fascists, Ba’athists … hmmm. Wonder how many other times he’s made this comparison?
And – what a "miss the mark" comparison it is.
Brad Friedman, the award winning webmaster? BAHAHAHA
As if the Amer Assoc of Webmasters was a legitimate organization of webmasters – I doubt any of them could write valid markup without help.
PATRIOT II (Draft)
Kira, my sense is that the soldiers are getting fed up with Rumsfeld at last. Not only have they been sent into harm’s way without adequate protection, but their superiors have escaped punishment for Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo (it was just "a few bad apples," don’t you know?).
Because of a sharp dropoff in recruiting, reservists and National Guardsmen are doing double and triple duty in Iraq, with no end in sight to the mythical insurgency…which most soldiers now recognize as a nationalistic rebellion against our invasion, not an insurgency.
Public opinion is swinging at last. Now it’s up to us to take advantage by pushing the envelope on the stolen election of 2004, the Curtis affidavit, and Lemme’s murder.
Wayne Madsen’s Declaration Of War!
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Henry Kissinger
How I’m missing yer
You’re the doctor of my dreams
With your crinkly hair and your glassy stare
And your machiavellian schemes
I know they say that you are very vain
And short and fat and pushy but at least you’re not insane
Henry Kissinger
How I’m missing yer
And wishing you were here.
Henry Kissinger
How I’m missing yer
You’re so chubby and so neat
With your funny clothes and your squishy nose
You’re like a German parakeet
All right so people say that you don’t care
But you’ve got nicer legs than Hitler
And bigger tits than Cher
Henry Kissinger
How I’m missing yer
And wishing you were here.
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How is it that Henry Kissinger and Lawrence Welk both spent their entire adult lives in the United States, yet sounded more German at age 75 than at age 40?
Will Ah-nold still be saying "COLLIE-FAUNYA" when he’s 75?
re #176 LOL and BTW the song was by Eric Idle
Whoops! Winter Patriot beat me, Bushw@cker! Does that mean WP is joining the game? LOL!
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Here comes another one
Here it comes again
Here comes another one
When will it ever end?
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"COLLIE-FAUNYA" — ROFLMAO!!!
"I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity." ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower
Kira #179 asked "Does that mean WP is joining the game?"
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I’ve told you once!
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Bushw@cker #176
Sounds like somebody got on Wayne Madsen’s LAST nerve! LOL!
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No you haven’t, Mr. Vibrating.
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WP #178 A fair cop re: your clarification, however have you ever entertained the possibility that Eric Idle and Wayne Madsen are the same person?
(Has anyone seen them both together in the same halibut?) 🙂
WP #182 Welcome aboard Winter!
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Mr Vibrating: Yes I have.
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KIRA #183
I think Madsen will need to steer well clear of Valdosta motels for a bit! 🙁
P.S. Liked your Dwight D!
This being an open thread, I won’t be flagged with an OT warning if I mention that the most recent post on please don’t read my blog features the Australian blogger Gandhi and his recent work on the cracking open of some very sophisticated propaganda.
Do the names "Iraq The Model" and "Spirit Of America" strike a familiar bell?
See Another Crack In The Wall for some background, extended excerpts and links to key articles.
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you most certainly have not!
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Bushw@cker #184
ROFLMAO at the Kissinger song. Very relevant.
Madsen & Idle same person? Nah — nope — no way. Uh-uh. But you’re right that Madsen should watch his back.
Eisenhower said it best. You know, he was Republican – before they started putting neo-CON war-mongering Chicken Hawks at the helm.
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(tits bigger than Cher! Exploding, no doubt!) Oops – probably shouldn’t have brought that up.
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Here’s a good site to visit:
Proud to be an Eisenhower Republican
Posted on this site, is an essay written by the son of Dwight D. Eisenhower, and here are a couple of teaser paragraphs:
[snip] The Presidential election to be held this coming Nov. 2 will be one of extraordinary importance to the future of our nation. The outcome will determine whether this country will continue on the same path it has followed for the last 3½ years or whether it will return to a set of core domestic and foreign policy values that have been at the heart of what has made this country great.
Now more than ever, we voters will have to make cool judgments, unencumbered by habits of the past. Experts tell us that we tend to vote as our parents did or as we “always have.” We remained loyal to party labels. We cannot afford that luxury in the election of 2004. There are times when we must break with the past, and I believe this is one of them.
As son of a Republican President, Dwight D. Eisenhower, it is automatically expected by many that I am a Republican. For 50 years, through the election of 2000, I was. With the current administration’s decision to invade Iraq unilaterally, however, I changed my voter registration to independent, and barring some utterly unforeseen development, I intend to vote for the Democratic Presidential candidate, Sen. John Kerry.
The fact is that today’s “Republican” Party is one with which I am totally unfamiliar. To me, the word “Republican” has always been synonymous with the word “responsibility,” which has meant limiting our governmental obligations to those we can afford in human and financial terms. Today’s whopping budget deficit of some $440 billion does not meet that criterion. **more**
Thanks, Kira — so many kind words in one post! 😉 Gandhi is a great blogger and I keep leaving links to his blog around in the hope that more people will start paying attention to him.
I get the feeling that all these pro-war so-called bloggers are propaganda fronts pure and simple and every crack in their wall is meaningful, I do believe. So be very liberal indeed when linking to this story or this one.
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no you didn’t
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the phony "warbloggers" look even more obviously phony compared to stuff like this recent post from Dahr Jamail
Winter Re: #185
Read your post on the Fadhil Brothers who sound like they’ve turned on their Neocon handlers big time! Thanks for the intro to fellow Australian, Gandhi, looking forward to a detailed look at his Blog about the Fadhil’s and Jim "HAKE"
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When they reformed after a recordbreaking two days, they ditched the "fishy references" and became Dead Monkeys, a name which they stuck with for the rest of their careers. Now, a fortnight later, they’ve finally split up.
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Re: #188 Oh KIRA! Its not Cher’s TITS that are about EXPLODE, it’s my brain (yes, it hurts!) there’s so much to absorb, and Winter’s not helping on that front with all his links! 🙁
I’m imagining that scene from "Scanners" where the lecturer’s head blows……
Whilst I try to get the remains of my head around all this, here’s something in return for you guys and any other Floyd/Waters fans on the BB.
What God wants.
By Roger Waters
What God wants God gets God help us all
What God wants God gets
The kid in the corner looked at the priest
And fingered his pale blue Japanese guitar
The priest said
God wants goodness
God wants light
God wants mayhem
God wants a clean fight
What God wants God gets
Don’t look so surprised
It’s only dogma
The alien prophet cried
The beetle and the springbok
Took the Bible from its hook
The monkey in the corner
Wrote the lesson in his book
What God wants God gets God help us all
God wants peace
God wants war
God wants famine
God wants chain stores
What God wants God gets
God wants sedition
God wants sex
God wants freedom
God wants semtex
What God wants God gets
Don’t look so surprised
I’m only joking
The alien comic cried
The jackass and hyena
Took the feather from its hook
The monkey in the corner
Wrote the joke down in his book
What God wants God gets
God wants boarders
God wants crack
God wants rainfall
God wants wetbacks
What God wants God gets
God wants voodoo
God wants shrines
God wants law
God wants organized crime
God wants crusade
God wants jihad
God wants good
God wants bad
What God wants God gets
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Mr Vibrating: Yes I did!
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I have a superb Bootleg of [The Original] PF "The Wall" which I downloaded and can’t listen to enough!
Have seen Floyd live once, sadly post "the dodge"
and Roger live with the Bleeding Hearts Band.
Whoops! forgot the Album name, which was:
"Amused To Death"
Release Date: September 1, 1992
Album cover still.
A British Report [Dated: 23rd july 2004] detailing instances of torture in Afghanistan
and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Not pretty!
FBI memo confirms Newsweak right the FIRST time!
Item #74 testimony in British Report further corroborates Koran in toilet story!
"newsweak" 😉
Hi WP – what a timely post for me #185. If you must know, I’ve been carrying on in the relative sh*tstorm at Conyers blog on the thread regarding his resolution on religious intolerance. I wiped my shoes off before entering this blog, so don’t worry I won’t track anything in :LOL:!!
Anyway, many of the intolerants over there have cited Iraq the Model and of course littlegreenfootballs. This is fascinating, even though I haven’t had a chance to thoroughly study all the posts relating to the (after a quick scan) apparent scam.
Thanks for posting the links. Actually, I had run across Ghandi’s site sometime last year while researching politics. (What else is there anymore except for the occasional Monty Python quote & pertinent song lyrics — thank God for both!)
I like your title – Another Crack in the Wall! We just bought new speakers because our old ones finally gave up the ghost and The Wall is one of the cds I listened to last night and today. Love the Pink.
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Now, let’s get one thing quite clear…
I most definitely told you!
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(And I’m most definitely going to tell them about the Fadhil brothers!!! Liberally.)
Bushw@cker #191
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What do you think of Dead Duck? … or Lobster .. ??
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Welcome to the "My Head is Exploding" room! Come on in and sit in the Comfy Chair. And don’t expect an argument, because, "arguments are an intellectual process."
Isn’t it about time to resurrect reruns of Max Headroom?
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I’d like to dedicate this song to the group of Americans who have been Karl Roted and that includes the brain damaging, propaganda purveyors, our MSM. ("The paper holds their folded faces to the floor, and every day the paper boy brings more.")
Brain Damage
Roger Waters / Pink Floyd
The lunatic is on the grass
The lunatic is on the grass
Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs
Got to keep the loonies on the path
The lunatic is in the hall
The lunatics are in my hall
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And every day the paper boy brings more
And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forbodings too
I’ll see you on the dark side of the moon
The lunatic is in my head
The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade, you make the change
you re-arrange me ’till I’m sane
You lock the door
And throw away the key
There’s someone in my head but it’s not me
And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You should and no one seems to hear
And if the band you’re in starts playing different tunes
I’ll see you on the dark side of the moon.
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You did not!
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P.S. – If you haven’t seen my take on bu$h at the Pope’s funeral, please see comment #29 for my caption! I think I’ve captured the essence of shrubman.
KK-IIII-RRRRRR-A I’ll cccccc-hhh-e-ccc-kkk out your SSSS-hhh-rr-ubman caption! 🙂
P.S. Thanks for the magnificent DSOTM lyrics!
P.S.S. The bootleg I refer to is a live concert obviously!
MMMAAAXXX
"In the near future, when TVs can’t be shut off and ratings are all that matter, investigative reporter Edison Carter and his computer-generated alter ego Max Headroom battle to keep the ‘blank’ generation informed. In the opener, Carter stumbles across his own network’s cover-up of a sometimes deadly new form of TV advertising called "blipverts".
Prescient.
This thread, which is two weeks old and just about to go under the thread-horizon, has been sitting at "199 comments" for more than a week.
I refuse to let an opportunity like this go to waste.
( WP gets comment #200 ! HUZZAH!! )
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