Just about freakin time, but seriously Judge...
Thank You!

Bravo. let's put all of these traitors in jail. They are truly domestic enemies of this country.

And another thing, I can't believe bama's considering hadley.

"Appearance to Answer Questions on 2004 Election Scheduled Just 24 Hours Prior to Election 2006"

Don't you mean to say Election 2008, not 2006?

You know to me there are very rare times when TORTURE is fully warranted and with what this freaking arsehole knows he should be rounded up and tortured until he squeals like a stuck pig and gives up every last single person involved and hands over all the evidence needed to convict them all.

Thomas Potter -

Yes. Thank you. Fixed. (Is it 2008 already? )

I hope he's very careful this weekend. I'm sure Karl wouldn't want anything bad to happen to him.

Gee if Connell is otherwise occupied on election night, who will be micromanaging the central tabulators?

Congrats Brad (great to have talked with you in September) congrats to Bob/Legal Team and Paul et al, Larissa. I hope it's video I'd love it to be streaming
Ingenious Girl

Oh my God. But it's the DAY before the election! How will this help us in time to prevent another theft?

Good! If Connell and the Republican mafia are pinned down on the legal front on election day perhaps another stolen election may be averted, if it is being planned or contemplated.

If I remember correctly, A.G.Mukasey doesn't consider waterboarding to be torture . In such an important national security issue as this I think it may be warranted. Stealing an election through electronic fraud is essentially overthrowing the legitimate government .

After voicing my "vote flipping" concerns, David M. Farrell, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and Director of Elections Office of the Ohio Secretary of State,reassured me that my county of residence, Cuyahoga County, does not use ES&S Ivotronic voting machines. Instead, Cuyahoga County uses ES&S Model 100 optical scan voting machines.

I then asked Mr. Farrell, "Has the software that operates the ES&S Model 100 optical scan voting machines been examined or would this violate proprietary agreements?" I'm still waiting for a reply.

(The difference between an ES&S Ivotronic voting machine and an ES&S Model 100 optical scan voting machine is the nomenclature.)

We can't stop with Connell. Tabulators rerouting thru GWB43.COM is just the tip of the story. Triadd needs to be subpeonaed as well, and they need to explain WHY 9 county tabulator hard drives were swapped out on the day after elections.

Fudging the numbers presented on a public web site the night of the election is not enough for a very public process, you would also need to ensure that the underlying data used to generate those numbers "squares" with the data that was presented to the public.

Those underlying numbers live on the county GEMS tabulators. Swapping hard drives "AFTER THE FACT" allows the underlying numbers to be fudged in such a way as to meet the relative data presented to the public.

It's not much of a stretch, to me, to seek a subpeona for any and all communications between SMARTECH and TRIADD (The Rapp family owned elections technology contractors for a big chunk of the state of Ohio).

You can't just present false data. That data would need to be able to pass at least 1 or 2 layers of scrutiny. Swapping the hard drives of select GEMS tabulators "after the fact" allows for this layer of "credibility".

Our constitution guarantees the right to a speedy trial. This has been viotated by the Bush administration among other things. I hope the Obama administration restores it.. . . EXXON/Valdese comes to mind. Tom Delay walking free. Ken Lay walking free until he could be whisked to Argentenia with the rest of the Nazis.Don Seigleman ...political prisoner. The justice system had to be taken over while busco stole and looted. Now..I'm sure justice will return. Clinton was hounded for 8 years over nonsense. Bush got a free pass on showing up drunk for public appearances...as did his Father.

and you guys still won't impeach bush? "oh well cheny is next in line so that would just be worse" well then impeach them both. don;t like the next one>? impeach her too! it's ridiculous to allow this type of stuff to happen unpunished. you guys are all crazy. Proud to not be an american for the last 8 years

You can rig an election, but if you get your dick sucked, watch out, its impeachment for you baby. Start a false war, no problem, as long as your only porkin your wife. god i could go on all day with impeachable offenses of the bush administration

I figure now since McCain said that the election would be won late that night is a diversion so everyone watches at that time and the real theft is interjecting small numbers here and there throughout the day.

Keep watching that shiny object.

4,000 students removed from school for a venue filler is a clue...I'd like to see how that order progressed from the Superintendents office and where it originated from.

Horserace my (jack)ass

Oh, it was a learning experience:

Hans Zipfel, government teacher at Defiance High School, prefaced the rally with prompts of what the students were to look for while there. "That included Secret Service agents, security measures, crowd reaction to the speakers and their comments, participant's reaction to the crowded environment itself, participant's reaction to the security measures taken, etc.," said Zipfel.

"Also, we informed them of what potentially transpires in other less democratic countries where people amass politically," he explained. "Assemblies such as the one the students were a part of would be dispersed with rocks, gas, clubs, or strafed bullets if it was antithetical to the powers-that-be. We wanted to express how truly blessed we are to live in this country with the freedoms our predecessors provided and that we strive to maintain. We especially focused on the First Amendment's free speech clause and the right to peaceably assemble. We then will discuss all these various components of the event when we reconvene on Friday."

What country does Fred Ziffel live in? Green Acres?

Odds are, since Rove is no IT expert, they hatched the plot together. Connell should go to jail as well. Giving him complete immunity, rather than sentencing consideration, is going too far.

If anyone could fake an email "threat" it would be Connell. I seriously wonder if Rove would dare threaten Connell knowing what Connell has on him. At this point Rove would be desperately trying to make nice, and offering Connell as much of the Republican coffers as he(Rove) could get his hands on. Connell is a deranged fundie fanatic from whom society needs to be protected (reading between the lines of Spoonamore's remarks about him).

A couple extra thoughts:

Why did Ohio (Blackwell) find it necessary to contract for those services out of state? Was there NO company in Ohio or in the state government structure that could set up the site for the elections? Is it THAT hard and specialized to do?
I know what the answer appears to be but how did Blackwell justify spending state money out of state, for starters?

SMARTECH and TRIADD- Where are the records for the bidding process on their services? WAS there any bidding process at all? Or was this another "no bid" contract?

Dan-in-PA, Post # 14, has it exactly right. The threads of this have to be examined, all of them.

I read the Raw story on this and while I have a lot of respect for David Dill, and he has a good point, I would not assume that every election officer would check and recheck that the "echo" coming back from the state totals reflects what was sent; or the potential if the connection existed, to "fudge" the tabulator totals at the source; to what had been stated that some officials seem to have been instructed to make the results "fit," much like polls are manipulated to fit the results when they don't agree. It wouldn't have had to been state wide.

Hope this is okay, but it's just got to be posted far and wide. Get this Spoonamore declaration posted out there! Especially this part:

I believed on election night 2004, due to my long expertise and work in computer attacks on Banking, Government and Communication systems reversed the outcome of the 2004 Ohio Presidential Race was subjected to a KingPin attack reversing Kerry votes and making them Bush Votes. All information that has come forth since then has further confirmed this belief, and the actions of some parties, notably Triad in removing Hard Drives which would have shown these actions and the refusal of Mr. Connell to testify about what he knows about the SmartTech KingPin set up, further confirm my professional opinion.

The thing that REALLY bothers me about Spoonamore is that, according to reports, is currently a McCain supporter. WTF?

Since he is sure of the corruption & theft perpetrated by the GOP --- how can he still support GOP McCain?

Can we trust Spoonie?

Okay, who remembers that night...I don't remember which anchor it was but...after being up very late watching...there was the bush family all sitting around still looking happy with kerry ahead...and the anchor then announces kkkarl is going to his "bat cave"? It's on tape I swear! And guess what, after kkkarl emerged THE VOTE FLIPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey kkkarl meet Senator Patrick Leahy.

And oh yeah, my alma matter just beat the Irish!
Learnin over genes!
Go Panthers!

It was in quadruple over time!

Penn State looks good this year though, and I know my brother will be rootin for them!

Ancient!~ #23: Your comment fascinates! You triggered my own very detailed memory of this event(deeply buried under 4 years of drink and pain), so I googled "Karl Rove" + "bat cave" + "2004" and your (our) memory is perfectly preserved, complete with picture-perfect happy Bushes, from this Washington Post article, dated November 3, 2004...

http://www.nytimes.com/2...mpaign/03bush.html?fta=y

..."Karl Rove, the president's chief political adviser, had been so concerned about the polls that he spent part of his afternoon sending e-mail messages to influential Republicans, telling them to disregard the polls, which he said were not an accurate barometer. Mr. Rove noted that those polls were wrong in 2000, when they had Al Gore beating Mr. Bush by three or four percentage points.

By shortly after 9:30 p.m., the president had a small group of reporters and photographers up to record what appeared to be a relaxed family tableau. "Why don't you all take the rest of the night off," Mr. Bush told reporters. He said: "We're very upbeat, thank you. I believe I will win."

While Mr. Bush entertained some 30 family members and friends at a buffet dinner upstairs in the residence, Mr. Rove was downstairs in what he jokingly described as his "bat cave," a temporary office set up in the old family dining room on the state floor of the White House to monitor returns. He had links there to Bush campaign headquarters in Arlington, Va., and the offices of the Republican National Committee on Capitol Hill..."

The whole article is a freaky-deaky read with four years hindsight; with all the 'what we know now' vs. 'what we suspected then' info layered on top of the turd eclair like a criminal cherry. Thanks, Ancient! Woweeee.

"...Spoonamore is...currently supporting McCain...Can we trust Spoonie?"
There are some honest Republicans who actually care about the future of that party, perhaps he is one.
As for Blackwell having to go to Tennessee for IT support; that may have as much to do with rewarding a party member who is high up in the chain as it does with any shennanigans, although I'm certainly not ruling out any illegalities.
I wonder what the reaction will be if it is shown that GWB's 2004 "mandate" was based on stolen votes?

My understanding is that Spoonamore USED to support McCain or maybe work for his campaign but quit it some time ago. Haven't seen anything about him going back. Listening to him talk about the kind of Republican he is(on one of those videos posted at Velvet Revolution)I'd be surprised if he was supporting the current incarnation of McCain. And the integrity of the vote seems to be his primary concern whomever he's supporting any particular moment.

Brad and other readers:

How will this deposition with this election just hours away, help?

Will it give the Dems the testicles and information to demand recounts? If recounts are possible. Are votes purged once counted?

Any thoughts?

Thank you David Lasagne and Doug. I went back to the article where I got the notion Spoonie was a McCain supporter and realized I had glossed over the adverb "erstwhile" [McCain supporter.]

Whew

That makes me feel a lot better. Thanks

Jeannie Dean - I sooo relate to your post! So MUCH PAIN. Thanks for the link and the memories [even though they are still painful.]

Jesus Christ. Finally.
I'm for hauling these monsters up on treason charges.
I won't exactly be holding my breath this weasel who helped overthrow democracy for the sake of other people's embryos will put his hand on that bible and actually speak truth, but wouldn't it be sweet to see Karl's sweaty face tomorrow morning....wondering "what if he DOES talk?!"

I'm in Ohio, btw, where it seems virtually no one knows who Randy Coles, candidate for congressional seat #41, actually is. Let's get the word out before Tuesday, people.

Thank heaven for Cliff Arnebeck. And you too, Brad ;-D

Hey Jeannie, I'm relieved someone else remembers. Thanks. I knew that instant it was stolen.
Oh yeah, at the end of the article there this interesting quote by the pimple on Democracy:

"At a rally in Albuquerque on Monday night, Mr. Rove was asked how Mr. Bush would compensate in the Electoral College if he lost Ohio.

"We're winning Ohio," Mr. Rove relied. "And we will win Ohio." Then he repeated it like a mantra, or a wish: "We will win Ohio. We will win Ohio. We will win Ohio. We will win Ohio. We will win Ohio."

And now I believe the theft is well on its way to being proven!

Meanwhile, McCain is jumping up & down squeaking the same mantra, "I can guarantee I will win" late at night.

McCain’s Suspicious Statements 2008
Mark Halperin -
McCain Guarantees Victory – June 30th, 2008

June 30, 2008 - [McCain] tells voters in an afternoon Pickersville, Pennsylvania town hall that the state will pick the winner in November --- and he will be behind until right before the polls close.
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The Politico McCain Guarantees Victory – October 26th, 2008

10/26/08 - Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that he can “guarantee” a win on Nov. 4 in a squeaker victory that won’t be clear until late that night.

“I guarantee you that two weeks from now, you will see this has been a very close race, and I believe that I'm going to win it,” McCain told interim "Meet" moderator Tom Brokaw. “We're going to do well in this campaign, my friend. We're going to win it, and it's going to be tight, and we're going to be up late.”

Remember:
Don Siegelman

- Republican Bob Riley edges out a narrow victory over incumbent Democrat Don Siegelman, in a MIDNIGHT VOTE RECOUNT in Baldwin County, Alabama.

Remember 2004:
Walden O'Dell the CEO of Diebold said he is "...committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to" [bush.] [2004]

Peter King R-NY said "It's all over but the counting. And we'll take care of the counting."

And we know they did.

I hate to nitpick, but he only said he guarantees it will be a "very close race" --- suspicious enough on its face --- and that he believes he's going to win it.

By most accounts, this one included, McCain's beliefs are pretty out there. I'm telling myself that if they really do steal it, or already have, whutever, there can't help but be oceans of evidence the public will not be induced to overlook this time.

I'd say the real likelihood is they will let Obama have his landslide and that will take all the wind out of the election integrity movement's sails. Really, he isn't going to be that much harder to control, the McCain/Palin ticket has to be too absurd even for them, and there's so much to be gained while letting Obama try to put our house back in order.

I don't discount that the sociopaths would do anything, but why in the fuck would Fudd endorse him if he wanted him to win. It doesn't make sense.

Yes, 99 - I also noticed the slight negators, but still worry - although I believe they can't steal this one without the world knowing the truth. And I still hold hopes we can get people prosecuted & trash the machines.

Oh - and those ones don't ever make sense - do they?

PLEASE mainstream media...
PLEASE report this...

...please?

man... connell owns the company that did both bush jr. election sites and the mccain election site. not to mention a bunch of the GOP PAC sites, oh AND, the RNC's website.

he then created a company, gov tech solutions, and puts his wife down as the owner to get government work because contracts will be easier to get for a "woman owned" company.

the man is neck deep in GOP money and yet the state of ohio decides that he should be counting votes. good lord!

also, both new media communications and gov tech solutions hq's are in richfield, oh. connell lives in bath, oh so the money isn't going out of state per say.

For any lawyers lookin into it (post #23)... that's a time stamp! A long day getting my vote counted today...but that's a story for another day.

Did he...will he show up? What time is this depostion scheduled to take place?

I cannot learn anything more about the depo; does anyone know anything????

And, only slightly OT.....remember when we used to call these fanatics 'holy rollers' and when they had no real political influence/vast coffers of suckers' money???

I really wonder if this delusional "evangelical" Connell ever thinks about that camel tryin' to get through the eye of the needle into heaven, when he's checking his bank accounts full of dirty Bush-Rove money.

Haven't heard ANYTHING about the court case today ... argh.

Here's a great & informative video posted today at Mark Crispin Miller's site:

Video on Connell deposition--with attorney Cliff Arnebeck

Another goodie:
Obama's huge lead among cell phone users

LOL, thanks for cellphone-users' Obama lead story, Kira. I knew it was happening, 8-10 points doesn't sound bad.

And, btw----I just love the fact that the district judge who (most recently, anyway) ordered Connell to testify is named....Solomon!

And also!!
Last night Chris Matthews had a disgustingly cordial spot with Ken Blackwell; just made me spit nails!
Blackwell is the reason so many of us in Ohio, including my elderly parents, spent Nov 4th, 2004 as de facto legal advocates for voters' rights at polling sites, for 10-12 hours. Oh, and the Repubs PAID their "poll monitors", whereas we Dems just volunteered. I don't object to doing the service, the problem was he fought like hell in court to have Repubs in the polls to try to commit even more suppression.
God, I hope the day finally arrives that he's held accountable for his criminal behavior that has contributed to all the damage, including the dead bodies, of the past 4 years.

OMAMA! I love your screen name!

Chris Matthews is so ... um ... shallow ... erratic? He does or says something that makes me want to slap him daily.

Ken Blackwell is despicable period and should be in jail. The other day, Matthews had Tom Delay on --- FOR EFFING WHAT?? I mean ... who even CARES what that dirtbag has to say??? Matthews was so gracious to him and even called him a "good man." Jeebus.

Delay belongs behind bars in a Federal Prison but I hear he's getting off on a technicality.

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... Ancient said on 10/31/2008 @ 7:48 pm PT...

And another thing, I can't believe bama's considering hadley.

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From Mark Crispin Miller on today's Democracy Now!

There’s a lot of things people can do and must do on Election Day to keep this thing from being stolen. They’ve got to make sure they’re registered. They have to know the hotlines: 1-866-OUR-VOTE and 1-866-MY-VOTE-1. If anything happens to you on Election Day, if you’re told you’re not registered when you know you are, when people tell you that, you know—when the machine flips your vote, for example, when you’re intimidated, if there’s a police presence at the polls, if you get disinformation telling you your election day is the next day, anything at all happens, let somebody know. Call those numbers. If there are people from the media there, tell them. If there are Election Protection people there, tell them. But make sure the story gets out, because this is the kind of evidence that has to be gathered and preserved, because on election night, sure as shooting, on the networks they’ll all say, “Well, things went really well today. There were nowhere near as many problems as we thought there were.”

But finally, and most important, in the event something untoward happens and John McCain is right and he wins late at night on Election Day, as he recently said he’s going to do, any kind of an upset like that, people should be prepared to attend voter assemblies. This is something that’s being run by Liberty Tree as part of their pledge for No More Stolen Elections! The website is [ libertytreefdr dot org ]. The aim here is to organize voter assemblies so that on November 5th people will turn out, nonviolently, convene, discuss what’s going on and press for the proper kinds of investigations.

Hi Kira----nod, bow, O-Mama appreciates your affection for her name ;-D
Too bad baby has outgrown his excellent O-baby onesie, but my Obama Mama shirt is still going strong! And baby's first letter, which he draws in his coloring book and in the air, is....you guessed it, "O"! He's hilarious. He also does the fist-bump when we shout, "Obama!!"
A very amusing baby, he is.

I saw that interview with Delay begin....and switched it off in horror. He absolutely should be in prison. He's an evil phuck and I've known it since I laid eyes on his smirk the first time.

Who knows what goes on in Matthews' mind; I think he just gets too excited about his fame & influence.
At least this cycle he's bowed to the pressure to discontinue his idiotic neverending comments about how cute or attractive particular women are. Uggh. Andrea Mitchell, and anyone else like her, does not need his opinion about her attractiveness or lack thereof when she's working as a reporter, fer God's sake.

And thanks for the voter assistance info, Parzival!

Does anyone know what the hell happened to the deposition????

BREAKING NEWS [sirens & flashing-dome thingy]

DISSEMINATE!!!!!!!!

*fist-bump* OMAMA

Yes We Can!!! Yes We Will!

I THINK THIS IS MISDIRECTION BY SPOONAMORE. HE ADMITS TO BEING CONNELL'S FRIEND. WHY SHOULD WE TRUST HIM?

THE RIGGING IS INSIDE THE MACHINES THEMSELVES.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN PROVEN WITH THE HACKS BY HURSTI AND OTHERS.

WHY IS THIS INVESTIGATION FOCUSED ON THE TABULATORS AND THE SERVERS?

I can't help it, I've been concerned about Spoonamore & his ties to the GOP all along. People have been trying to assuage my fears, but they still linger.

Just got home from calling & canvassing in northern Ohio. Word is that NE Ohio numbers are bad; would not be suprised if OH goes red once again.

RE: Spoonamore & Connell; why could it not be that both ends of the system are polluted? I believe there is evidence that this is the case. After all, the approach has always appeared to be to target many avenues to Democratic votes, from purging to unreasonable barriers to register to ACORN attacks to hacking.
God I'm mad at Ohio.

Famous last words...."I'm mad at Ohio!"

God I'm happy I WAS WRONG!!!!!

I could hear people shouting in my little town, it sounded like a roar.

What a day.

Connell just died, in a fiery plane crash.

There were no witnesses.

Funny how that works.