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"Rightwing Extremist, Nutcase John Gibson of Fox 'News,' Slams 'Leftist Blog' RAW STORY"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 6/29/2007 @ 6:29 am PT...
The faux snooze neoCons are moving their lips again I see. (I know their lips are moving if they are lying.)
The invasion, occupation, and conquering of faux snooze by the neoCon masters of the lie is complete.
Now they have cast their gaze of many daze upon the blogosphere.
As Brad pointed out, since they do not yet know what a blog is, we are safe for awhile.
Raw Story looked like what the faux snooze ooze thought a blog was, and so they pounced on the good folk over there.
The blind maggots at faux snooze, like the rest of the neoCon infestation, know no shame, honor, or professional courtesy.
That is what happens when their head gets head high up their own arse. It is called a news brown out. a.k.a. faux snooze ...
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 6:35 am PT...
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 6:37 am PT...
OH, you already have an entire post about that!
:)
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 6:40 am PT...
With the Raw Story thing, notice how they call all FACTUAL NEWS STORYS or OPINIONS THEY DON'T LIKE..."LEFTIST"?????????????
Why don't they just say, "Raw Story hates our troops", or "Raw Story is for the terrorists", or "Raw Story is unPatriotic", or any of the other Ron Poppeil catch phrases that work on "the idiots"???????????
"LEFTIST"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 6/29/2007 @ 7:36 am PT...
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oneguy
said on 6/29/2007 @ 8:17 am PT...
I am so sick of all of you LIBERALS and LEFTYS with your FACTS.
Just what is a fact, a fact is an opinion. And everyone knows that opinions are things LEFTists use to try and confuse the real issue. JESUS
JESUS wouldn't put up with you and he won't. All of you LEFTY's will be LEFT BEHIND as soon as the rapture comes. Then it will OK to kill you cause JESUS will have demanded it. So keep up with those Opinions, keep calling them facts and keep hating on America and soon those terrorists will have taken your freedom and there will be no more SUV's and walmart. You want that huh, do you Liberal Lefty Lucifarian liberal leftys who are more liberal then a whole room full of left handed leftys.
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Logical
said on 6/29/2007 @ 8:37 am PT...
An opinion is a fact?????????!!!!!!!!! You sound like a close-minded, so called conservative that voted for a cowboy that wanted to play war and enrich his oilmen buddies, saddling future generations with massive debt to pay for this immoral escapade.
As for the rapture " Lefties....then it will be ok to kill you because Jesus will have demanded it." Get a life! There are thousands of religious sects, are you sure your'e in the right group? Thou shall not hate should have been in the top ten, at least in my doctrine, my OPINION, which is just as valid as yours....Peace out!
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cobalt
said on 6/29/2007 @ 9:36 am PT...
The more that right-wingers descend into madness, the more they start to sound like Maj. Frank Burns.
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Floridiot
said on 6/29/2007 @ 10:13 am PT...
At first I thought u wrote "excrement", not "extremist".
Both work.
That's it!, Frank Burns is exactly who they all remind me of.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 6/29/2007 @ 11:12 am PT...
Oneguy #6
Since you just cast the first stone, and I assume arguendo that you are a christian, then it follows that you are without sin.
I say that because your leader Jesus said: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone". Welcome, I think Brad would allow perfect folk to post here. Don't quote me tho cause you are the first.
One day even perfect folk like you will be begging to bring back the "lefties" (a.k.a. those who relish peace over war, love over hate, fairness over oppression, respect over ad hominem, good over bad).
And I do mean bring back, because our influence is fading.
Note what Justice Stevens wrote in his last opinion of this session of the US Supreme Court:
“The Court has changed significantly since it decided School Comm. of Boston in 1968. It was then more faithful to Brown and more respectful of our precedent than it is today. It is my firm conviction that no Member of the Court that I joined in 1975 would have agreed with today’s decision.”
(SCOTUS blog, emphasis added). The court he was talking about, 1975, had 4 members put there by Nixon, and three others by right wing presidents. Here is the makeup:
- (Chief) Warren Burger (Nixon, 1969-1986)
- William J. Brennan (Eisenhower, 1956-1990)
- Potter Stewart (Eisenhower, 1958-1981)
- Byron White (Kennedy, 1962-1993)
- Thurgood Marshall (Johnson, 1967-1991)
- Harry Blackmun (Nixon, 1970-1994)
- Lewis F. Powell (Nixon, 1971-1987)
- William H. Rehnquist (Nixon, 1971-2005)
- John Paul Stevens (Ford, 1975-????)
(SCOTUS Blog). Only two were appointed by lefty presidents, yet they were more decent toward american racial values than the court today.
When we descend so far into fascism that even perfect folk like yourself can see it, give us a call. We will be at GITMO with Nelson Mandela and Jesus.
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Agent 99
said on 6/29/2007 @ 11:50 am PT...
Logical and Dredd
I think oneguy was being sarcastic, sardonic, joking.... You lefties are so touchy!
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Agent 99
said on 6/29/2007 @ 11:53 am PT...
I'd just been thinking that Giuliani reminded me of Frank Burns. He did his ferret eradication thing because everybody was making the comparison....
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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ChrisHooten@work
said on 6/29/2007 @ 12:15 pm PT...
Even if he wasn't being sarcastic it was funny as hell! In fact that would make it funnier. But come on, look at that first sentence.
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oneguy
said on 6/29/2007 @ 12:19 pm PT...
thanks agent 99
I was just fucking around and thought that it was obvious that my post was dripping with sarcasm. Comeon people I grew up in the midwest and got told on a daily basis by coworkers that I was going to hell. Of course the same people blindly supported Bush but hey they were fun people to talk to.
anyway, people like us who are labled as the left it seems are getting a little pissy being called the left, liberal, etc
So I try to keep it light lest we get too mean like you know who.
The righties, the rightula's, the Funddies, Fundamentals, Funnaramma, The Right, the big bad scary jesus party, the Bushies, the Bushites, The shoot a member in the face party
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oneguy
said on 6/29/2007 @ 1:00 pm PT...
btw,
I laughed my ass off for atleast 1/2 hr from some of the comments that were getN sassy. Ohh that made my day. I love you liberal people, dont change.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 6/29/2007 @ 2:44 pm PT...
Brad - yer writing has an excellent sense of humor and busts their chops at every turn.
R n'R
On the road again..got tickets to see Willie in 2 weeks.
Have a good weekend!
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 6/29/2007 @ 3:04 pm PT...
99 #12
really?
oneguy #15
Not the first keyboard I have paid for. Huh 99?
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 6/29/2007 @ 3:16 pm PT...
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 6/29/2007 @ 3:17 pm PT...
Name dropping could also lead to more Americans reading Raw Story. Truth to power bebe. Eye opening for any cool-aid drinking Bush/Cheney supporter.
THESE TERRORIST IN THE WHITE HOUSE MUST SKIP IMPEACHMENT AND GO DIRECTLY TO LIFE IN PRISON. THESE LYING INBRED CRIMINAL FASCIST UNAMERICAN MURDEROUS OIL BARONS NEED TO GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL.
ANTI-ENVIRONMENTAL DOUCHEBAGS AND THEIR RUBBERSTAMP CONGRESS HAVE REVERSED OVER 250 ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS AND ARE STILL TRYING TO DO EVERTHING IN THEIR POWER TO PROMOTE THEIR US ENERGY POLICIES THAT ADVANCE THE GLOBAL WARMING CRISIS. cHENEY DOESN'T JUST KILL PEOPLE, NO HE ALSO KILLS FISH. cHECK OUT THE RAW STORY ABOUT HOW CHENEY USED HIS CLOUT TO KILL OFF 70,000 SALMON. A SMALL NUMBER WHEN COMPARED OT 700,000 DEAD IRAQIS.
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Agent 99
said on 6/29/2007 @ 3:25 pm PT...
Yes, really. Giuliani banned ferrets in New York, and as the years go by he looks more ferret-faced than ever. He gets my vote for Frank Burnsian Major for sure. The way things are going, the filthy swine would probably win if he'd just use FERRET FACE '08 for his slogan.... still not as clownish by half as * on his best day.
[Modern Ferret and audio of his "ferret freakout" (player doesn't seem to be working but you can download the mp3)... just google it.]
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 6/29/2007 @ 3:28 pm PT...
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 3:47 pm PT...
OT:
Here's what's disturbing about all these 5-4 Supreme Court decisions:
- The same 5 fascists vote the same way every time, so the Supreme Court is now a joke. It is ACTIVIST, but since the CMSM is corporate fascist along with them, NOW it's NOT ACTIVIST (there won't be any articles about the "Activist" Supreme Court, now that they are part of corporate America).
- Putting a 5-4 decision overturning a 100 year old law is RADICAL and ACTIVIST...and yet it's not on the front page, but IN THE BUSINESS SECTION OF THE NEWSPAPER!!!!!!!!!
- WHICH Democrats voted to approve Roberts and Alito? THE DEMOCRATS DID NOT PROTECT US FROM THIS, and they HAD THE ABILITY TO FILIBUSTER turning the court into CORPORATE AMERICA!
I don't know off the top of my head how Hillary Clinton voted on Roberts and Alito, but now she's saying this court is turning back the clock...well how did she vote? How did the Democrats vote on Roberts and Alito?
And finally, how bad was the Supreme Court to begin with? If only TWO guys could cause all this???
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 3:50 pm PT...
The 5-4 minimum price decision is PRICE FIXING!!! NOT "MINIMUM PRICES"!!!!!!!!!
Say what it is: THE SUPREME COURT OVERTURNED A 100 YEAR OLD LAW TO STOP "PRICE FIXING"...NOT "MINIMUM PRICES"!
And the fascist newspapers put this front page news IN THE BUSINESS SECTION SO WE WOULDN'T NOTICE OR TALK ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://money.cnn.com/200...ust.court.reut/index.htm
"COLLUSION" AND "PRICE FIXING" is now legal again after 100 years!!!!!!!!!!!!
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 3:52 pm PT...
"MINIMUM PRICING" MY F*CKING ASS!!!
THIS IS "PRICE FIXING"!!!!!!!!!!!!
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 3:54 pm PT...
Where are the "FREE MARKET" Republicans and Conservatives on THIS ONE????????????
THAT'S NOT "FREE MARKET"!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Agent 99
said on 6/29/2007 @ 4:00 pm PT...
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 4:21 pm PT...
Where's the NYTimes article, DIRECTED TO REPUBLICAN VOTERS, entitled, "You've been HAD...YOU IDIOTS!!!!!!!!" They sold this court for abortion...and turned it around on those very same idiots to smash them! NONE of these decisions have ANYTHING to do with "CONSERVATISM"!!!!!!!!!!!
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 4:24 pm PT...
I'M PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 4:27 pm PT...
They were TOO BUSY REPORTING ON PARIS HILTON TO TELL US AHEAD OF TIME ABOUT ALL THESE UPCOMING SUPREME COURT DECISIONS!
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 6/29/2007 @ 5:10 pm PT...
The Bushits have infested all branches of government for a total manipulation of the virtual theocracy into a Fascist state. Congradulation greedy neo-con terrorists for successfully spread your malignant cancer onto our Democracy. The saddest aspect is the takeover of the Judiciary.
In retrospect you have to look at the decision the Supreme's made to stop the recounting of the FL vote in 2000 that put these shit heads in power in the 1st place. Then, a Congress that stood by the 9/11 coverup and accepted World Trade Tower Building #7 and the confiscated videos of whatever the hell hit the Pentagon. The you get the rigging of 2004 Presidential election in FL, OH, NV, and NM followed by more FASCIST appointments again approved by the sellout robots in Congress.
$th of July is coming. A holiday declaring American Independence. Now take a look at the majority in Federal government. Criminals who hede the call of their elitist pocketbook with a vote of approval for all of War Czar Cheney's secretive plans for a New America to turn America into a dictatorship and rape the country/world. Your time is gonna come you inbred oil barons.
I am declaring my independence from ever destructive act against our former constitutional government since the 2 of you stole the Executive office. Independence of the Bushit policies you have passed since infesting the White House. WE need to revolt against the 2 Fascist judges Bush appointed to the Supreme Court with all the other corrupt lying politicians on the take.
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 6/29/2007 @ 5:18 pm PT...
Speaking of American Dictatorship. Last month Congress passed a law that if their is another 9/11 attack (like Bush's Blow Job World Trade Tower Building #7), then Bush assumes total control of America under martial law and doesn't even have to answer to the robots in Congress. How bout that America. You better start watching your ace more carefully because the Cheney has more reason than ever to strike the final blow.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Chris Hooten
said on 6/29/2007 @ 5:27 pm PT...
Yeah! And What about "Bong Hits 4 Jesus!" Is that pro or con drug use? Didn't Jesus say to use all the herbs of the earth? I have no idea if that is promoting drug use, or not. I do know that an 18 year old kid should be able to hold up a banner that says it on public property that was off campus. Like duh! What were they smoking when they came up with that doozy of a decision? They ASSUMED THAT IT PROMOTED DRUG USE. Why? And why would that not be considered free speech, even if the banner had read "Bong Hits Are Good For You," or "Legalize Marijuana?" What a bunch of jackasses, legislating their morality again... and again... and again... Jeez, how much dirt can you get on Supreme Court Judges with unchecked, illegal spying? Or are they just so extremely thick-headed that they don't understand the concept of freedom of speech? Sheesh, they tried to call the Olympic torch being ran through the center of town a "School sanctioned event" for the purposes of this case. I hope "Bong Hits 4 Jesus" starts popping up everywhere. It would serve them right.
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Chris Hooten
said on 6/29/2007 @ 5:33 pm PT...
Actually, I wish signs would pop up that say:
BONG HITS 4 JESUS...
JAIL FOR BUSH AND CHENEY...
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 5:40 pm PT...
There better be 24×7 coverage on these Supreme Court decisions, and the driving home of the stoeln elections causing this, and the Democrats who voted to approve Roberts and Alito...BEGINNING RIGHT NOW!
And some good reporting linking all of this together.
AND getting the point across to Republican voters that they've been had, and to join us...AGAINST ALL CORPORATE POLITICIANS!
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 5:42 pm PT...
Millions of us should march down to Washington and do a citizen's arrest this time including the Supreme Court, since the spineless Democrats aren't doing it.
I've had it! Enough is enough! And arrest the corporate media, too!
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 6/29/2007 @ 6:08 pm PT...
Big Dan - Dig your post man. Oft insightful, backed with evidence supporting your statements and often funny. That being said my friend what mass media news agency do you think is going to carry this story besides perhaps the likes of Raw Story? Take a Clinton size hit but don't inhale.
These Fascist rusters and their Rovian propaganda machine are intrenched for THE LONG HALL. They are not leaving although out of 100 Senators the number that support CHENEY IMPEACHMENT rose 1 vote today bringing the grand total to......11 ha hah ha ahhhh
My favorite Faux style mass media weapon of truth evasion to Bush administration criminal activity is drum roll.....
PRETENDING IT DOESN'T EXIST. If you don't report it it doesn't exist and then there is a statute of limitation until the story never has to be reported.
If the story grows elsewhere then follow it up with a spin twisting the facts into a non-issue or favoring the bushits.
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 6/29/2007 @ 7:05 pm PT...
Big Dan - you cannot storm the Bastille yet BECAUSE..
there are to many mislead Americans at this point in time. The threat rocks the dog but without the numbers it a setup of some pig in riot gear to do the only thing he's really capable of and enjoys. Beating or even killing an innocent person that in his mind is a threat to sustanance of the neo-con 3rd reich.
Admitting that this last statement is only a theoretical and not a requirement, it is still unfortunately to early to make a stand. When the criminal wears the badge he still represents the law until removed.
Last 4th of July i said i would take the entire bushit administration on in the ring and i make that offer again. The thought of beating the shit out of Cheney and friends in a boxing ring excites me to the point that i would destroy these lying murderers so they could harm anyone ever again.
Faux U --
Then i would declare waving the white flag and laying down our guns to start peace talks with the different factions of Iraq.
Then i would immediately send troops to stop the Genocide in Defar, Africa.
And declare our world environment in crisis and make America a leader in the world environmental movement setting a president for all other countries.
Stop the illegal poaching of exotic animals trade and impose a world court to inforce this crime with long term prison sentences.
Then i would encourage an economy that would produce good manufactured with quality in the USA AGAIN. Pay a little more and get good ole American quality standards again not some cheap crap and it would create American jobs.
Abolish electronic voting machines and create a federal holiday for voting. All on paper ballot trails and take a week to deliver the accurate count. Completely transparent and accounted for and abolish corporate contributions to political parties.
Continue to allow women the right to choose and have a safe surgical proceedure instead of a return to the coat hanger back alley abortion.
Release all people from jail whose conviction was using drugs on themselves. People with a substance abuse problem are a victim of their own hell and need treatment not jail time.
Immediately open 9/11 war crime trials indicting the Bush administration, Rudolph Giuliani, Larry Siverstein, and the top brass who lied to Congress in the 1st place.
Immediately open war crime trials indicting the Bush administration for cooking the intelligence. Sorry Colon Powell, you had your chances to retract your statements.
Examine all 250+ envirnmental laws reversed by Congress under the Cheney administration.
Examine such laws and policies as the Patriot Act, Homeland Security Act, and Suspected Terrorist Act passed by the Terrorist Bushit administration. This would include illegal wiretapping and new bankruptcy laws that favor predator financial institution over American citizens who are preyed upon.
Top to bottom reviews of the CIA, the FBI, and the JUST US Departments. new people in charge. New blood.
Bring respect back to a nation that has been driven to it's knees by a bunch of inbred lying oil barons.
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 9:12 pm PT...
Free Speech TV and LINK-TV. We all have to switch, it's our civic duty to hit the streets and everyone you see with a DISH or DirecTV satellite, knock on their door or put a homemade flyer in their mailbox and tell them to switch. Walk up and down your neighborhood, it's easy to see if someone has a satellite.
Why aren't there any good people with the power and means to stop this, doing anything? Hello, Mike Gravel, Kucinich, Conyers, Ron Paul, Bobby Kennedy Jr., will you do something before it's too late? Or don't you care? Do something instead of giving them a good frowning!
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 9:18 pm PT...
The corporate media is keeping everyone stupid, as you say GBD. That allows all this to happen. I was shocked when I saw in the BUSINESS SECTION, which I hardly ever read, that 5-4 decision about overturning the 100 year old "PRICE FIXING" law. I read the paper this morning, most of the time I only read the A section with the headlines, never the business section. So I get home from work, pick up the paper, and look in the BUSINESS SECTION for some unknown reason, and it hits me, how many people saw this particular decision? I wouldn't have known about it! I mean, they're just blatantly screwing us right to our faces! Then they call it "minimum pricing" to mislead or confuse, and explain how it's not that bad...you can still sue, not really important.
Well, if it's not that important, why go out of your way to overturn a 100 year old law? Do they think we're stupid? Yeah, it's so UNIMPORTANT, they had to steal an election, railroad in a couple of corporate courtists, and quickly have a flurry of 5-4 decisions all voted ONE WAY with the SAME PEOPLE...making a FARCE out of the Supreme Court and our country! Yeah, not to important! Don't look here...don't look in the business section of your paper! You might throw away that section with the fliers!
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 9:24 pm PT...
This reminds me of when Reagan started taxing unemployment and wanted to LOWER the minimum wage (yes! look it up!), and the stories at the time from all the so-called liberal media said he wanted to "help us" by taxing unemployment, making it more unattractive. And lowering the minimum wage would "help us" and "stimulate the economy". Look up "Reagan" and "taxing unemployment" and look at the media at that time. Same thing as NOW! "Minimum pricing" my ASS! It's "PRICE FIXING"! Bush is trying to "help us" with this court!
Thanks for the help, Ronny Reagan! YOU started all of this! And you revoked the Fairness Doctrine, too! Ronald Reagan was the WORST president EVER, because Bushco wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for senile old Ronny Reagan! "Tear this wall down!" is ALL the media wants us to remember of Ronald Reagan! Yeah, Reagan tore the wall down, right! Let's put his name on a ship somewhere!
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 9:26 pm PT...
...and taxing unemployment causes you to have to save 1 of 4 monthly unemployment checks for "The Reagan Tax", did you see any recent stories about how Reagan began taxing unemployent? He also said, and his spinmeisters said, "It's not fair to get non-taxed income" all over the media at the time. Just like now! The spinmeisters in the media, always falsely saying "the liberal media". How short memories we have! Well they don't WANT us to remember THAT!
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 9:30 pm PT...
I think Reagan had alzheimers the ENTIRE 8 YEARS he was in office! He wasn't running the country! Just like now, with Bush!
They want us to remember him as the kindly old guy who said "Tear down this wall", that's all they'll show or tell us in the media of Reagan's presidency. And we're supposed to glorify him. All his buddies took care of him after he retired, but he was too brain dead to acknowledge it anyway.
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 9:32 pm PT...
...and Cheney and Rumsfeld started in the Reagan administration, as well as outsourcing torture.
COMMENT #44 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 9:38 pm PT...
GBD: YOU'RE telling ME to calm down? YOU'RE the guy always flipping out about everything!
:)
COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/29/2007 @ 9:45 pm PT...
Sounds like you'd make a good president, GBD. Funny thing is, what you listed is what most Americans want. But the e-vote machines.........
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Off the Grid
said on 6/30/2007 @ 12:27 am PT...
COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
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MCD
said on 6/30/2007 @ 12:29 am PT...
GBD - Congress didn't pass the law giving Bush absolute power if we are attacked. As I understand it, there was some kind of procedure already in place for an attack... what happened was that Bush himself quietly changed that procedure. Don't have all the facts but know it wasn't Congress. Can anybody out there clear this up? Congress has enough on their plates without blaming them for something they didn't do.
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Dredd
said on 6/30/2007 @ 3:47 am PT...
Big Dan
The Alito and Roberts story has an another aspect.
They both lied to congress about stare decisis, the judicial principle that says follow precedent (existing case law) and overturn existing law only if there is a compelling reason to do so.
They said under oath that they would follow precedent, but we now know they committed perjury because they have abandoned the doctrine of stare decisis in their very first session.
The mistake congressional democrats made was to trust those two neoCons to tell the truth.
I remember marching in demonstrations during that time when Frist was threatening to do away with the filibuster. The neoCons had the votes in the Senate to do it so the dems were hamstrung to some degree.
Anyway, your concern is justified.
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Dredd
said on 6/30/2007 @ 3:54 am PT...
The faux snooze guy Gibson said we manufacture facts about Cheney. Manufacture this:
Tricky Dick put his oil and blood-stained sticky fingers into another place he had no business being, and has hurt northwestern fishermen and the environment:
A Congressional committee is preparing to investigate Vice President Dick Cheney's role in water-management decisions that killed more than 70,000 salmon in Oregon.
(Raw Story!).
COMMENT #50 [Permalink]
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czaragorn
said on 6/30/2007 @ 7:47 am PT...
MCB, BD, GBD, et al. - I believe that duhbaya simply signed an executive order to give himself dictatorial powers "if" there's another national emergency. We have to do something about the electronic voting machines, or they're gonna just keep on stealing elections until all he populations of the Earth are extinct. But we don't just need paper ballots, we need ballots printed on hemp paper - in fact we need to cover the planet with hemp, for fuel, paper, clothing, and survival and sanity...
COMMENT #51 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 6/30/2007 @ 9:40 am PT...
LOOKEY HERE! Former Roberts and Alito aid steps down!
http://www.rawstory.com/...SECUTORS-RESIGNATION.xml
Start a DOJ-type investigation against Roberts and Alito, and see which big business is paying them off for all these decisions! Who said the Supreme Court is "hands off"?
INVESTIGATE THE SUPREME COURT, DEMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do they think they're untouchable???
COMMENT #52 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 6/30/2007 @ 10:18 am PT...
COMMENT #53 [Permalink]
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That Guy
said on 6/30/2007 @ 10:30 am PT...
By the way, the "Leftist blog" RAW STORY, as Gibson attempts to marginalize it, is not a blog. It's a news site. But, given his employer, we'll forgive Gibson for being unfamiliar with what news actually looks like
UM, correction - RAW is tabloid muckraking of the worst sort and has been inaccurate numerable times.
HUFF isn't news either - Paris just sucks
COMMENT #54 [Permalink]
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DES
said on 6/30/2007 @ 12:11 pm PT...
That Guy #53 --- "RAW STORY ... has been "inaccurate numerable times"?
Got any substantiation for your claim? Got any actual links to actual evidence of inaccuracy at RAW? Just because you think it doesn't actually make it true.
COMMENT #55 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 6/30/2007 @ 2:45 pm PT...
Here is some more "manufactured fact" about which the neoConcerned Mr. Gibson opined:
In fact, it is becoming increasingly difficult to find a law that Cheney believes does apply to him, whether that law be major or minor. For example, he has claimed that most of the laws passed in the aftermath of Watergate were unconstitutional, and thus implicitly inapplicable. His office oversees signing statements claiming countless new laws will not be honored except insofar as the President's extremely narrow interpretation allows. He does not believe the War Powers Act should be honored by the President. Nor, in his view, should the President be bothered with laws like the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). In fact, it appears Cheney has actively encouraged defiance of such laws by the Bush Administration.
(John Dean at Findlaw's Writ, emphasis added). John Dean was a republican lawyer in the Nixon presidency. In fact he was White House counsel.
He was not a loyal nixie nor is he a loyal bushie. He is a loyal american. He would not lie for Nixon and he won't lie for Cheney.
You just gonna hafta suffa Mr. Gibson.
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calipendence
said on 7/1/2007 @ 5:14 am PT...
Dred #48,
Of course the supremes will soon get a case challenging the 100 year old precedent set by a judicial activist headnote by a former railroad exec in Santa Clara vs. Southern Pacific that gave us the "corporate personhood" over the years that was never a conclusion of the actual case notes of that case nor based on constitutional law.
The corporatist 5 will rule in favor of using [i]stare decisis[/i] in this case and then will turn around and say, "See, we weren't lying. We will use stare decisis to respect existing long court decisions."
Of course they'll only rule that way when it serves their corporatist agendas!
I still think we should be questioning HARD any history of impropriety that those on this current court have exhibited in the past, so that at least they are served notice that the people and congress won't accept everything that they throw at us without scrutiny. If that means getting them to testify in front of committees where they might be investigated for impeachable crimes themselves, so be it.
They are testing us now to see how much they can get away with later if and when the appeal from this administration comes to them to support claims of executive privilege. If they feel they can get away with it, they will violate the precedent set by the court from Nixon's day that emphatically denied such requests.
We should start with things like looking at Cheney going hunting with Scalia's effect on subsequent decisions by the court regarding cases involving Cheney. We should continue with perhaps investigating WHY the court would choose not to hear Sibel Edmonds' appeals but in the same session hear Anna Nicole Smith's appeal. If Sibel Edmonds can be heard in front of Waxman's committee, perhaps we can build a list of good questions to ask of them to see if they were in fact facilitating a coverup then, and even by just asking those questions, serve notice that if they try to faciliate a coverup by granting this administration executive privilege to hide criminal acts, they could be viewed as participating in the conspiracy that could lead eto their impeachments later as well.
COMMENT #57 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 7/1/2007 @ 7:27 am PT...
"That Guy" "SAYS" Raw Story has been inaccurate on numerous occasions, much like Limbaugh, Hannity, the entire Republican Party, Coulter, Malking "self-proclaim" or "SAY" they are "CONSERVATIVE". Always WORDS but when you check out their ACTIONS and ask for EVIDENCE, they come up empty.
"That Guy": SHOW US where Raw Story has been inaccurate on numerous occasions, instead of "SAYING" it.
The NYTimes once again get the most important thing wrong: They "SAY" the Supreme Court is "conservative".
THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT "CONSERVATIVE" and the NYTimes is ALSO continually repeating over and over and over "conservative"!
There was a "CORPORATE TAKEOVER" of the Supreme Court, not a "CONSERVATIVE TAKEOVER".
STOP SAYING THIS!!!!!!!!!!! Show us the FACTS where the Supreme Court and the entire Republican Party are "conservative"!
This is the most important point to START WITH in any article about the Republican Party, Supreme Court, Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Malkin! THEY ARE NOT "CONSERVATIVE"! They are not "the RIGHT"! They are "CORPORATE AMERICA"! Against us, and for corporations!
Did the Supreme Court ban abortion? Even though the so-called self-proclaimed "conservatives" held everything from 2000-2006, the House, the Senate, the presidency, the COURTS, DID THEY BAN ABORTION? YES OR NO???????????????????????????????
COMMENT #58 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 7/1/2007 @ 7:28 am PT...
What they DID do (their ACTIONS, not their WORDS), is railroad through a mega-amount of PRO-CORPORATE legislation and ANTI-CITIZEN legislation, including some Democrats like the credit card bill.
How long are we and the NYTimes going to keep calling Republicans "conservatives"?
COMMENT #59 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 7/1/2007 @ 7:30 am PT...
What is "conservative" about the 5-4 decision to allow "PRICE FIXING"? That is ANTI-FREE MARKET and ANTI-CONSERVATIVE! Yet, the NYTimes keeps calling them "conservative", why?
COMMENT #60 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 7/1/2007 @ 7:35 am PT...
If they banned abortion, I'd say, "Yep! That's conservative."
If they pulled out of Iraq, I'd say, "Yep! That's conservative."
If they stopped big govt spying and wiretapping, I'd say, "Yep! That's conservative."
If they lowered federal deficit spending and huge trade deficits with China, I'd say, "Yep! That's conservative."
If they weakened instead of made laws to make the executive branch a dictatorship unaccountable to American citizens, I'd say, "Yep! That's conservative."
THEY ARE DOING THE TOTAL OPPOSITE OF ALL OF THAT!
COMMENT #61 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 7/1/2007 @ 7:37 am PT...
If they got rid of the secrecy of voting and e-vote machines, I'd say, "Yep! That's conservative."
Everyone has twisted around "conservatism" to be "corporatism". NOT THE SAME THING!
COMMENT #62 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 7/1/2007 @ 7:42 am PT...
The first way to take these people down, is to start calling them what they are...AND IT'S NOT CONSERVATIVE! It actually hurts the cause of taking them down, because then they can say, "They're trying to take down conservatism". That's REALLY BAD! When they DO take down these criminals, it's going to get the real conservatives very angry, when we read the headlines, "Conservative losing" "Conservatives corrupt" "Conservatives are bad" "Conservatives ruined our country". It's really going to hurt the real conseratives.
COMMENT #63 [Permalink]
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calipendence
said on 7/1/2007 @ 8:44 am PT...
Big Dan.
Yes most would agree that Rehnquist was a conservative, and one in many cases we didn't care for his decisions much. But Roberts is DEFINITELY a move towards more corporatism on the bench! Do you think that Roberts would have "dissented" the way Rehnquist did in the First National Bank of Boston vs. Belotti case? Hell NO! He'd have lead the charge instead to give corporations unlimited right to give money to political causes.
Read more here on how it will be very unlikely for this corporatist court to overturn Santa Clara County vs. Southern Pacific Railroad decision, despite Vermont Secretary of State and attorney's professional opinion that "Headnotes are not precedential" and therefore given that the notion of "corporate personhood" was based purely on the headnote of this case and nothing else, it would seem very APPROPRIATE to have this decision overturned. But with this corporatist court you have even less liklihood of overturning it than the 1978 court case that Rehnquist dissented on.
COMMENT #64 [Permalink]
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Shag
said on 7/1/2007 @ 8:45 am PT...
And Faux News wonders why Democrats don't want to debate on the network.
COMMENT #65 [Permalink]
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That Guy
said on 7/1/2007 @ 11:06 am PT...
I can recall stories about Fitzmas that wer wrong from Mr. Leopold and Mr. Floyd carried in bold hype type
Stories from Mr. Ritter about a coming draft and large invasion of Iran
If RAW is to imply by name that its stories are unsourced then it is mostly opinion
Standards in journalism are there for a reason --
I heard a good conspiracy about the Illuminati from
the History Channel tho
COMMENT #66 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 7/1/2007 @ 1:46 pm PT...
The media is "framing" everything INCORRECTLY and ON PURPOSE as "liberal vs. conservative", "left vs. right", instead of the REAL divide that would wake all of us Dem AND Republican voters up:
RICH/CORPORATE vs. MIDDLECLASS/POOR
The NYTimes article today best represents the corporate media PURPOSELY PROMOTING THIS FALSE DIVISION:
"SUPREME COURT TURNS RIGHT"
WRONG!!!!!!!!!
IT SHOULD BE "SUPREME COURT TURNS CORPRATE"
Liberals and conservatives have more in common with each other than a liberal and a Democrat OR a conservative and a Republican.
COMMENT #67 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 7/1/2007 @ 1:48 pm PT...
The NYTimes article is GOOD and CORRECT, but it DOES HARM promoting "left vs. right" instead of the TRUE "rich/corporate vs. poor/middleclass".
I BELIEVE this is on purpose. I'm not a kool-aid drinker, I thought of this MYSELF because I'm not an idiot. I think it's fairly obvious to anyone with half a brain.
COMMENT #68 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 7/1/2007 @ 1:52 pm PT...
Most people don't realize, if they're white they have more in common with a BLACK middleclass/poor person than a rich white guy. That's what the illegal immigration issue is all about, too.
Keep us fighting "black vs. white" "left vs. right", instead of the REAL PROBLEM "rich/corporate vs. middleclass/poor".
Forget about color or "left and right"!!!!!!!!!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Hillary Clinton is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for example.
COMMENT #69 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 7/1/2007 @ 1:54 pm PT...
They WANT us to say, "Those conservatives took over the Supreme Court"..........
..........instead of................
"Those CORPORATE FASCISTS took over the Supreme Court".
And the NOT liberal NYTimes is doing a very nice job of that, with their article today. Get us mad at the CONSERVATIVES! And there's NO CONSERVATIVES on the Supreme Court!!!!!!!!!!!!
COMMENT #70 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 7/1/2007 @ 1:56 pm PT...
Are you mad at Ron Paul, because the Supreme Court overturned 100 year old "PRICE FIXING" settled law??? I'm mad at all the Democrats who PASSED ROBERTS AND ALITO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!