What in the world is wrong with Coulter!???

Lately she's been going back and forth between liberal and conservative, I think she's just an opportunist.

Doug E.

Too bad it is a conservative group that has to do this, where are the democratic groups doing this kind of easily done exposures

Coulter is an opportunist who will do or say anything for a buck. For the last several years she's been on the reicht-wing payroll and that works for her.... her mental illness ( and yes I think she's nutz) fits right in with the rest of the whack jobs (hannity, limbaugh, O'loofah, wiener/savage, bowtie boy - who also fall into the category of opportunist --- their individual levels of sanity vary from day to day and with whatever dose of crap, drugs, koolaid, or money they've imbibed)...

If she's been flipping lately between rw conservative and liberal I'd say it's because inspite of the crap she spews she can feel the wind shifting and doesn't want to miss the next gravy train heading left.

Ann Coulter is not representative of anyone but her loathsome self.

may she disappear into obscurity where she and here ideas belong

Hawk, when "liberal groups" do it, the talking heads just spin it as more "hate and consiracy".. doesn't do any good.. anyone with eyes can see how nuts Ann and the rest are.. They do a huge disservice to the Conservative movement.. Why would Liberals try to save them if they don't want to save themselves? If Conservatives don't want to be lumped in with the whack-jobs, then Conservatives have to distance themselves.. no one can do it for them..

And I tell ya what.. When the psychos who claim to be Conservative are out of the party, I could try to repsect Republicans again.. but not while they prop up people like Ann, Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc etc.

Ann's a grenade thrower - she doesn't care where she throws it, as long as their is a "boom", someone gets hurt, and after she gets to say "I threw it".

I may not like their points, but I can respect a conservative's point of view. It is not inherently anti-human. That, of course, is unlike Ann Coulter's point of view. Hers is vicious and inhumane. I'd much prefer to have a discussion and debate on values with a true conservate than a debate littered with ridiculous accusations. At least with a conservative, we can both agree that we're people and have a toast to it.

OT, Ted Stevens was just on C-Span 2 crying about his bridge to nowhere, their trying to cut funding for it
He says he's going to resign if he doesn't get the money

I say "BYE-BYE TURD STEVENS"

Watching that video of the powerpoint i'm thinking two things... first: this guy wants to bone ann coulter... and second: I really want to bone ann coulter. she may be crazy, but DAMN she's f-ing hot!

Watching that video of the powerpoint i'm thinking two things... first: that guy is kind of psycho... he really wants to bone ann coulter... and second: I think i really want to bone ann coulter.

DAMN she's f-ing hot!

oops... my bad

i still want to bone ann coulter

Thank you, Brad, for providing the clear photos of Ann's Adam's Apple.

Gak, I find almost nothing as hideous as thinking about boning ann coulter. She's hideous. Gaunt, boney, anorexic for sure, horrid personality, a face thats proportioned twice as long as it should be, etc.

Now Reese Witherspoon in the movie legally blonde, THAT is a hot blonde slender lawyer!

Personally I think Ann is good for the right-wing. I sure as hell wouldn't want her on MY side! If anyone is capable of discrediting the right-wing pursuit of gigantic government, religious theocracy, and wars in the majority of Americans' eyes, its people/pundits like Ann who SUPPORT such nonsense.

I second that, Snoopy! I will be totally shocked if Ann Coulter is NOT a transexual (or in hormone therapy preparing for the big operation.)

Ann: Why don't you give me the respect that I deserve!?
Answer: BECAUSE I AM NOT ONE OF YOUR FANS!!!!! :laugh:

Anyone who is attracted to that bag of bones is a necrophiliac. A steaming sack of hog shit would have more substance (and be less offensive).

It is about time that conservatives take back their political philosophy. First George Will, now Daniel Borchers. Hey there, all you conservatives who believe that the Rapture is not an Iraq exit strategy, come on down. We'd love to hear from you since we share more in common (e.g., love of country, fiscal responsibility, sanctity of our own homes and bodies) than you share with the Republi-Nazi election thieves.

I seriously think mAnn Coulter needs proffesional help .

She is an embarrassment to God and christianity !

Read the bible ! we are all conservative by nature !
but Jesus was a ground breaking " Liberal " in every way !

That is why most of us have a hard time letting go and truly following Jesus's true love and selflessness .

Jesus never made the mean spirited remarks the foolish mAnn Coulter makes .

It's all for the $$$$ money for the evil demon Mann Coulter .

Dear Brad,

I come from a long line of "true" conservatives. While I am still a Christian, because of people like Ann Coulter, Jerry Falwell, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and yes, our current hypocritic supposedly "saved" President (since when does being "Christian" give one the right to lie and decieve) I cannot in good faith call myself a "conservative" Christian. Even though my values are indeed Christian. Isn't it time that we stopped refering to ourselves with labels like "evangelical" and "conservative" and began to just "be" Christian?

Anyway, it is refreshing to see someone from within the flock finally stand up to Coulter and her ilk.

This slightly reminds me of another doc about her... Is It True What They Say About Ann?

http://www.straponvets.com/

The chick was a dude...
Ann Coulter is actually a former drag queen from Key West named Pudenda Shenanigans. Ms. Shenanigans was famous for her renditions of “Dude Looks Like a Lady” “I will Survive” and “You Shook Me All Night Long” as well as an extensive Barbra Streisand repertoire. We who used to work with her are concerned for her as well as upset by the vile hatred she has spewed towards her former friends in the gay community. We feel that by bringing the truth to light perhaps Ann will come to grips with her past and change her wicked ways.

She's not that hot at all....more like a poor exscuse for Paris Hilton.

Besides....who would want to date someone like that who screams and raves all the damn time?!?!??

My god she must drive any of her friends nuts.....

No, most of the really hot women of the world are liberals for a fact......liberals are always the hot girls, not to mention the progressives!!!!!!!!!!

Let Coulter get on her one trip train to nowhere with Brittany "I'm a glutton" Spears

Doug E.

Jeez... at one time I thought I'd be willing to do her purely out of mercy. Now I don't think I'd be physically capable...

I knew Coultergeist was skinny, but I didn't know she was suffering from bulimia. To keep her weight down, she spews her hate in every direction every day.

She is not a man, but she is not a woman either. It is a well documented medical fact that a woman with a low body fat ratio as low as hers will not be able to have a period, or a baby. Also, since the brain is made mostly of fat, her starving bird brain is not functioning properly, but you knew that.

Her writing style reminds me of the basement blogger losers living in their parents' houses. Her parents may have let her out of the basement, but what I want to know is, WHO LET ANN COURLTERGEIST OUT OF HELL???

wow. i never knew she looked like a crack whore.

Ann, Ann, Ann.

She's Rush with sex a peel..

Go Rev Borchers!

And Brad!

Bottom Line:
Hate speech is so Bad!!
And Ann C. promotes it.

Man she wants to make me puke on so many levels... physically, mentally, I could go on....

Well, Ann has convinced me...

ALL conservatives are dishonest, warmongering, wackos.

Conservatism and integrity are mutually exclusive.

This Borcher guy actually seems to have some integrity--So, by definition, he can't be truly conservative.

I'd like to boink that girl while reading to her
Bill Clinton biography.

She feels she's smart,confident,business savy.She found an opening, like politicians you fake what you need to. If not she could take a lie detector test. My opinion, like Madonna+Brittney she's had her day, but if she's drunk or stoned she might be fun...

This is my first time here - the site is unreadable - urine yellow on snot green?

Coulter is an attention seeking moron. Anyone who would take her seriously is worse.
She's lied openly throughout her career and even when proved D-E-A-D wrong, continues to argue the point. A real sign of intelligence.. NOT.
Now she's proven to have lied about her religious affiliation? Lying about being a Christian? Does it get any scummier?

I've always felt any "Christians" who supported her hateful approach to be anything but Christians.

Someone needs to hold her down and tattoo JESUS WAS A LIBERAL on her boney flesh.

I think it is pretty obvious why she hasn't been exposed like this by the Democratic party:

Ann, whether by design or incompetence, is doing damage to the image of conservatives. She's making all conservatives look like loonies in a "guilt by association" way. Even if you are an agnostic conservative who is against the War in Iraq, you tell someone you are a conservative and they will think, "Oh, right wing Ann Coultier loony conservative, eh?"

Ann is doing the Democrats a great service, that's why you won't see her exposed for the hypocritical fraud she is. It's the same reason Pat Buchanon was on Crossfire, Clinton had those highly visible meetings with Newt Gingrich, etc. All you have to do in politics is encourage the nutballs on the opposite side of the aisle to be more visible, and more polarizing, and you will harm them greatly.

I like her, and anyone who does'nt ought to be slashed with my claws! :angry:

I happened on this site from crooksandliars. I'm Canadian, so it's not that important to me politically, but I hope Mr. Borcher reads these "christian" comments. So this is what "christians preach and practice". No thanks, I'll pass.

As a life-long liberal Democrat, I cannot even begin to express how relieved I am - not glad, not gloating - relieved to see real Christians, real conservatives taking back the Republican party from those like Ann Coulter and the neoCon extremists, who, by pretending to speak for all Republicans, have done more to polarize and damage this country than any Democrat ever could. The 'values' Coulter had made a small fortune promulgating - hate, fear, killing, suppression of any dissenting opinion - have tarnished conservatives badly. I hope that other Democrats, like me, are less interested in gloating and more interested in finding common ground with real conservatives to bridge the chasm between us, and repair the incredible damage our country is suffering, and will suffer for years to come.

I really truly think the reason Coulter is so negative and latched on to liberals is the fact that this person has had a sex change operation. That this person is so mad at the world because they do not fell competent in anything. they lash out and flame and smear. I think it is a personality conflict. And it will never change. All you need to do is look at pictures of Coulter which are all over the net and you can tell this is what is wrong. The hate will never end.

The girl needs to eat something!

What's interesting is that traditional conservatives are finally getting some traction. Pat Buchanan had tried his best to prevent the Invasion of Iraq... and conservative groups like the John Birch Society have long criticized the Bush Administration as being fraudulently conservative.

But Fox News, Bill O'reilly, and Ann Coulter are to conservativism what Hot Topic is to gothic.... just mainstream corporate spinoffs of spectacular and eccentric fringr cultures.

I'm just glad that it has officially become OK for the mainstream press to permit some criticism of the President... provided, of course, it doesn't offend any big companies.

My instinct is to say, "Ann, for God's sake, eat something!"

Then I think of her statements and say, "Eh. Fuck her."

While I'm delighted to see Ann Coulter exposed as the black-hearted opportunist that she is, what about the other icons of the right? You know, the male ones? O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Delay, etc. They're every bit as vile and phony as she is, and they've been at it longer. Ok, well, I guess you gotta start somewhere. I vote for Rush next.

Borcher is trying to pull the wool over our eyes. I'd rather Ms. Coulter pull her skirt down over her knees. His attempt to diavow Coulter is pure sophistry. Ms. Coulter is, in fact, a true reflection of conservative thoughts and feelings. It is Mr. Borcher who is making feeble excuses for conservatism, trying to put a kinder, gentler face on a hateful philosophy. I have never heard a conservative talk like Mr. Borcher, while I hear conservatives express the same thoughts as Ms. Coulter every day. He doesn't fool me.

Well this is very welcome.

I'm on the left. But true conservatism - as opposed to the
corrupt, extremist ratbaggery we've put up with since Reagan
- is the "other blade of the scissors", and deserving of our
respect.

We're stupid to "reach across the aisle" to radical extremists,
but it makes sense if you're talking to someone who
understands what honest debate and disagreement means.

Would you devote a website to a insane homeless man raving about being Napoleon? That's all that horse-faced GOP broad is. The only power she gets is from people like you and websites like this. She is a child. Your response to her should either be to ignore her or to laugh at her. Treating her idiotic statments as worthy of rebuttal is a waste of time and a worthless tactic. When someone asks you about the horse-faced bitch, just say "Never heard of her" or "Yeah - I think she's hilarious! She's like a female Andrew Dice Clay!"

Someone needs to seriously fuck this woman in the ass.

It would be like screwing cardboard --- no I won't get into that. They gotta have *depth*... (We are only taking like this because she deserves it. There are some hot progressives out there - I haven't said a word, have I? )

On another level ... Here are the six "canons" of conservative thought, according to one of the respected big shots of conservatism, Russell Kirk - from his book, The Conservative Mind

1. Belief in a transcendent order, or body of natural law, which rules society as well as conscience.
2. Affection for the proliferating variety and mystery of human existence.
3. Conviction that civilized society requires orders and classes, as against the notion of a classless society.
4. Persuasion that freedom and property are closely linked.
5. Faith in prescription and distrust of "sophisters, calculators, and economists" who would reconstruct society upon abstract designs.
6. Recognition that change may not be salutary reform.

Conservatives believe in a "concept of society as joined in perpetuity by a moral bond among the dead, the living, and those yet to be born - the community of souls."

This just goes to show what I've been saying --- We need to rethink the terms we use. Progressives don't have an "affection for the proliferating variety and mystery of human existence"? Of course they do. They are trying to save it from imposed blank sameness, being promoted by fake "conservatism".

Belief in a transcendent order? Is this really a defining political issue?

I think you can see the flaw in conservatism I mentioned on another thread. Greed is not mentioned and is ignored in the focus on property and classes. Fatal flaw, IMO.

The "community of souls" - a beautiful concept - of course, is Christian in the conservative world view. Unfortunately for this view, Christ was a "leveller" because he understood the concept of greed as a moral and practical iniquity. He was very clear on this, it seems to me. Another flaw in the "canon."

I think most of you will agree with me that there are some great concepts here, though vitiated, possibly destroyed, by confusion and blindness to key facts.

But, "progressives" have a lot to talk about with true conservatives and it's about time everyone recognized the fact.

About greed, about corporatization, about homogenizing and degrading the beauty and variety of life, about nourishing the "community of souls". Am I wrong?

Ann Coulter is a weed, and has nothing to do with conservatism, of course.

The first time I ever saw 'her' live and talking was on Bill Maher a few weeks ago.

She dithers and sputters and jerks her head around like a chicken while speaking.

She's like Bill O'Reilly, who has Daddy issues he constantly has to parade for the world to see.

Wow man. Talk about obsession. You need to take a vacation dude. The only people who believe what the sick bitch says are sick people like this -
http://www.passtheammo.com/

Peace. your fellow Human

ps. here one can find some videos that are a lot more
useful - http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000753.html

Another one that is interesting can be found here -
http://www.thewashington...com/archives/001018.html

I think Ann is really a man born into a woman's body.

I feel if you're liberal you don't care if people are aethiest or extremely religious, while if you're conservative you want to make people live and think the way you were taught to. Coulter's confusing.She looks like an all-american christian barbydoll that spews amazing hatred. It's a neat show but not really what I grew up thinking religion was about. On the other hand she shows how religion's been used by folks for warped theories,starting wars etc. over the years..

Arry, here's an article I think you will find interesting:

Corrupt, Incompetent and 'Off Center'
by Eric Alterman

[snip] Here is the liberals' problem in a nutshell: More than 30 percent of Americans happily answer to the appellation "conservative," while 18 percent call themselves "liberal." And yet when questioned by pollsters, a super-majority of more than 60 percent take positions liberal in everything but name. Indeed, on many if not most issues, Americans hold views well to the left of those espoused by almost any national Democratic politician.

In a May survey published by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, 65 percent of respondents said they favor providing health insurance to all Americans, even if it means raising taxes, and 86 percent said they favor raising the minimum wage. Seventy-seven percent said they believe the country "should do whatever it takes to protect the environment.'' A September Gallup Poll finds that 59 percent consider the Iraq War a mistake and 63 percent agree that US forces should be partially or completely withdrawn.

Nevertheless, extremist right-wingers, including a few apparent criminals, enjoy a stranglehold on our political system and media discourse. And so the majority views of the American people are treated with contempt by pundits and politicians alike. [snip]

I said in #46..."It would be like screwing cardboard --- no I won't get into that. They gotta have *depth*... "

That's in general...not re: #45 which was posted, unfortunately, right above mine.

Sheesh --- the things you got to explain...

Talk about the neo con religeous mantra,
I watched something on PBS (I think)
It showed the Whigs back in the 1840s, played a similar game just before they imploded, pretty much the same crap the Pugs are playing now, right down to the fear tactics
History repeats itself

For years, I have absolutely LOATHED Coulter. Then I saw an interview with her (on Passionate Eye, a TV show here in Canada, where Americans - like myself - can see the REAL news once in a while).

She was fidgeting, yanking on her own hair constantly, crossing and uncrossing her legs continually --- and I realised, she's just extremely metally ill, and needs professional help.

Now, as hateful as she is, I just feel sorry for her.

I know you check out the websites, Ann, to see what's being said about you --- that explains why you're now wearing turtle-necked sweaters instead of your usual low-cut outfits. Sorry, but it is SO NOT WORKING. We can still see your Adam's Apple bouncing up and down, even underneath all of that wool.

Give it up. We know you're a MAN --- maybe that inner hatred of yourself is what's really causing your hateful behaviour towards your fellow man.

It's not too late --- get some help to resolve your inner issues.

She's in good company with the other violent, racist, corporatist, politicos who call themselves conservative Christians.

Nice little compilation of sickness. I think she's great though. She motivates progressives. Currupts conservatives.

Rightwing boys think she's sexy. Don't forget that. You know the real power freaks always go for the dominatrix. Sex sells though she's not my cup of arsenic, I'm sure Dick and Dub gets a tickle from hearing her foul mouth. Unfortunately for all of us the typical righty bible thumper can't enjoy the natural fruits of their arousal and instead sublimate it into greed and violence.

i would simply ignore her as was earlier suggested. its gone beyond that though, she has real influence and has poinsoned many young conservative minds. many arent capable of a thought out debate because all they do is shout and call names. she has to be discredited.

Some of the comments here are really creepy. These don't correspond to the belief systems that would find Coulter loathsome. I smell GOP trolls trying to discredit liberal blogs by posting fake commentary.

#51 --- Kira --- That's very good and shows that our primary task is to break the "stranglehold". The other task is to talk and to sort out what citizens really believe because the whole labeling thing is doing little but confusing the issue. Many people seem to understand this. The percentage of those who didn't call themselves conservative or liberal is very significant. Of course, we also should factor in the fake conservative propagandist campaign of demonizing the word "liberal".

I've been pissed off with, say, CNN for letting there be NO bias when doing politics. When one side speaks the other sends a pro out to claim the opposite. Lots of things are verifyable but left confusing creating mainstream apathy. Thank 'god' for blogs eh..

As any AquaTeen Hungerforce fan will know, Ann stays slim by eating "Parasite" candy bars.

Yawn. When are you people going to get over a boring old transvestite who is only around for a poor old closet queen like Sean Hannity to leer at?

Coulter offers nothing to the political discourse. She's just a rabble-rouser for the right.

Perhaps the clearest reason the Bushistas appear to be Fascists at time is their complete separation from the conservative public. They play to the Religious Right, but it's pretty clear from all they do that they're not religious themselves.

Instead, it seems to me they are a secret political party, dedicated to the Rich and Corporate America. Call them Skull & Bones or the party of the Rich if you wish.

Their use of the Religious Right, the Libertarians and others in the Republican Party can only last a short time. Then, like a supernova they'll implode and just fade and disappear. They'll scurry for the dark spaces like so many cockroaches.

Why is it these people seem to gain control of a political party, rather than the true believers? It's because they are more Machiavellian and take power more effectively. Like most sociopaths they manage the political lying and machinations easier than normal healthy people. Nixon was that way too.

I'd love to see that movie The Corporation which compares the modern American corporation to a sociopath. I think a national airing of that might explain a lot to the American people.

That everyone says America is to the right, much further than Europeans, and yet the polls which show the public to the left of the politicians. It's quite amazing and shows there's something seriously wrong, call it an illness, with our system.

I'd guess it's the skewing influence of money which Jerry Brown talked about during his 1992 presidential campaign.

"I'd love to see that movie The Corporation which compares the modern American corporation to a sociopath. I think a national airing of that might explain a lot to the American people."

Exactly.. And, that's why I suggested in the other thread that we "prosecute all the 'people' who drive Corperations" when they do things wrong. You can't leave those people in charge, they say "the company did it, not me.. I'm just doing my job".. bullshit..

We need to fix this mess .. and soon..

While the ability to have a baby does not a woman make, the thing is, and I think the most important thing that we all keep losing sight of, is the fact that Ann Coulter has no real power of her own. She has none. She has no influence over other people that is not superficial and faked. She has, for one reason or another been given one thing: a pass to get on television. So how does she manage that? This is the thing that should be focused on: who is letting the mentally ill imbecile spew all over the airwaves? Who is supporting her? Who is orchestrating it?
This goes to what Mooser said. Isn't her hateful crap indeed the same thing that most Conservatives *have* been saying, for decades? In other words, if you consider yourself a "true" Conservative from back in the day, how can you in good conscience align yourself with these whackjobs? Where indeed is YOUR voice?
Oakland Soul: you make a good point, since there is no dearth of male morons also being paid to speak on TV - but hey we are used to those. Not too many women as idiotic as Coulter, so perhaps it's a bit of a novelty
And as for the John Birch Society, they are sorta like the NRA (of which I am a member): they need to get past their hysterical paranoia and fear before they will change any hearts and minds.
P.S. Scotty I think you have it backwards.

MarkH and Savantster --- Agreed with both posts. One of the themes of my postings --- and I think yours, too --- is that the whole bu$h cabal represents - in a blatant form - something that has undermined the republic. It's not just an abnormal growth we can cut off and everything will be fine.

But we can use our necessary struggle with the neocons to shine a light on the problems you talk about in your postings. If we don't exert citizen control over our politics, economy, and culture soon, there is no future for the republic. IMO, the bu$h cabal is an eye-opener - at least I hope so.

Here is a perfect example.. $11 mil taken in.. 2 out to some customers that didn't get scammed, and $400k in fines.. net of $8.6 million in PROFIT and the KNOW what they did was illegal.. And the company was argueing for an $11k fine??

I say, send back all the money, every penny.. fine them the $11 mil they made (total of $22 mil plus the cost of returns).. AND, put the people who set it all up in jail..

Course, the average joe on the street has been brainwashed into thinking "that's just business.. there's nothing that can be done".. but that's just the POINT.. something CAN be done, if only people would get some balls (the ones that need them, that is.. our politicians who are supposed to be our protectors)

The mere fact that Coulter even gets attention is absolutely bizarre. Under the most basic analysis she is a pathological narcist, who happens to be skilled with words and appears selfconfident. She is a poor individual who has some deep rooted problems with self hatred. She needs to raise evidence for herself that she is a worthless person only deserving to be disliked and not loved. She shows a distinct and extreme example of narcistic disorder. She mentions christianity and morals to preach to what she calls liberals, which are far beyond the true meaning and definition of liberal democrats. She lives in extreme terms, and wants to kill, wipe out, punish someone. All that is exhibiting, again is merely all that libido (as repressed and stagnating sexual energy) that can't find a positive expression in art, loving repaltionship, community, tolerance and acceptance. She is trapped in her own hatred. Possibly uncapable of meaningful relationship, (denying bulimia?) very likely unaccepting of her own homosexuality, and in consant conflict with the notion of self as an opportunistic "self made celebrity" clashing with the inner perception of an empty, scared and cold blooded soul starved for true love. There is no other replacement for true love and acceptance. In order to blur that and distract her own mind consantly, she goes for what she knows best... getting some surrogate love in form of fake admiration and fame, at any price.

The really bizarre fact is that so many republican americans even buy into her let me call it for what it is here... bullshit.

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :confused: :O :hehe: :hehe: :doze: :laugh: :satisfied: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :plain: :crazy: :confused: :angry: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Was it ever proven that Ann is really a "Mann"?

Doug E.

Savanster - isn't the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 supposed to hold people "who drive the corporations" accountable?

Also - if a corporation exhibits the traits of a sociopath, isn't it because the people who run the corporation are actually sociopathic? It surely comes down to the people at the top ... doesn't it?

To Comment# 45...Captain America...I already tried that with her Captain (Her "adams apple" is proof) I had a drink in one hand, cell phone in the other, while I rammed away at her boney white a$$..now thats called multi-tasking huh?!.....
I'd rather have my dick severed then be forced to enter any hole of that skanky meth whore...

To Comment# 45...Captain America...I already tried that with her Captain (Her "adams apple" is proof) I had a drink in one hand, cell phone in the other, while I rammed away at her boney white a$$..now thats called multi-tasking huh?!.....
I'd rather have my dick severed then be forced to enter any hole of that skanky meth whore... :O

It never gets discussed too much but it is so obvious isn't it? Isn't that an adam's apple in Ann's throat? What are we dealing with her? A pre=op?

"Also - if a corporation exhibits the traits of a sociopath, isn't it because the people who run the corporation are actually sociopathic?"

Well, no.. While the people who run corps "could" keep the corp from acting like a sociopath, it's the way the law is set up that defines what a corperation's mission is that makes the comany a sociopath. The people driving it, in "doing their job", ensure the company acts that way. Some of the definitions in the movie explain that "not having remorse" and the like applies to the company "de facto".. as in, while the board members might "feel bad" that the toxins they dumped in the river killed 350 people, the "corperation" doesn't have feelings to feel bad with.. Some of it (painting a corp as a sociopath) is a slippery slope, to be sure.

Arry #58

The problem is the labeling, isn't it. That was Newt Gingrich's baby ... the usage of a very powerful psychological tool called NLP for the dark side rather than for good.

Now - everything bad is called "liberal." From the article written by Eric Alterman (linked in my #51) only 18% of the American population calls itself "Liberal." I don't even know what Liberal means in our current political spectrum. I sure don't know what Conservative means anymore.

So, we have a broken media and a broken voting system. It's going to be really tough to unseat the thugs because part of what needs to happen is for the masses in America to be informed. Have we given the neoCONS enough rope so they can hang themselves?

Thank goodness we have the Internet & blogs like this one.

Pure and simple, she's a crass opportunist, a media whore. Rachel Marsden (a weaker Coulter copycat) is another example, as well as Bill O'Reilly. It reminds me of when Morton Downey Jr had a talk show and the only reason people watched because of the bizarre spectacle it was. Nobody had seen anything like it before. It paved the way for the outrageous as entertainment - Geraldo,Springer Jenny Jones. Spectacle entertainment meant to shock, with no substance. With the country split, its prime for attention whores like Coulter to take center stage - as long as people listen. Imagine if people walked away, turned off the tv and ignored them. They'd shrivel up and die.
The sad thing is - ANY coverage, including this webpage - is fuel for her existence

Kira at #70

Seems the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 is all about "disclosures" and "accounting" in the aftermath of Enron and Worldcom.. Basically, it seems to be an attempt to make sure companies don't create tons of "fake child/partner corps" to burry money in, and don't atrificially inflate their profits..

This is all about "protecting investors".. which, if you ask me, is pretty silly given that at MOST, that would be 40% of our Society.. and really only protect the money of the people with the most tied up in the market.. Rich folks and mega corps.. and protects the investment firms (less scare in the market, the more in comissions they get).

Kind of like doing away with the capital gains tax..

Speaking of.. anyone see the financals on this guy ? $120,000 to just over $1 mil in "capital gains".. and soon to be untaxed.. nice.. and I had to drop my 401k contrabutions to pay child support.. not that I have upwards of $5 mil in stocks to get dividends on anyway.. I wonder.. will they remove the tax on Lottery winnings too? I mean, it's free money as well.. What about other forms of gambling? If I win $50k playing Keno, do I get to be exempt on those taxes too?

Don't think I am dignifying Coulter when I speak of the "canons" of conservatism, etc. Nevertheless, the relentless demagogy practiced by Coulter, Limbaugh and so on permeates the media, so it can't be ignored.

I think Coulter *is* crashing, and it might be a good sign for further downfalls.

But propaganda of the vicious kind is one of the primary tools of fascist-like authoritarianism, and when people are losing their grounding the demagogues come in like hyenas to the kill, providing the necessary scapegoats and villains, thereby diverting attention from the true and important issues and the things that need to be done to act upon them.

Of course, they don't just come in on their own. They live in a symbiotic relationship with those who would be gather the power and wealth to themselves and prefer not to be caught in the act.

Goebbels and his machine weren't negligible in the least in the Nazi consolidation of power. In fact, they were crucial.

And, yes, I think "sick" people tend to be the ones who gravitate toward demogogy, and, if they are effective, they infect the society.

Happy to see Mr. Borchers doing his part. (Brad too) Maybe these fools will evaporate like Father Coughlin in the '30's. All it takes is to see them for what they are.

SHE'S A FUCKING PUNDIT, for christ's sake!
No pundit deserves this much attention, especially this one and that's all that's worth saying about her or this 'project'.

goat.

One thing has been left out money Ann Coulter is laughing all the way to the bank. Money is the single thing that keeps people like Ann Coulter going

Jeez, it's all just entertainment after all.

Coulter is washed up, she knows it, and she is uttering such outlandish extremist commentaries only to attract attention to herself. This bleached mop in a stick long ago outlasted her 15 minutes of "fame' and now she is flushing herself down the hopper into the sewer - - where she belongs.

Ann is a TV!

All she wants is to be A TV on TV!

Her hormones are so messed up she can not have the Surgery!

A TV knows you get much more attention as a Female!

That lets her get away with more BS.!

You know a ravening Bitch(Queen) on the rag?

Her hormones will kick her ass and the Steroids too!

Amazes me how some men here in the U.S find her attractive? I am a man with excellent eye sight and this thought has never crossed my mind. Attractive should be reserved for women that actually are.
Furthermore, when this Coulter chick opens her mouth, I have to turn the station immediately because she is also stupid.

Oh no! we can't see Ann:

http://www.light-to-dark...m/coulter_favorites.html

or...

http://www.light-to-dark.com/clock.html

I smell self-delusion and self-destruction. What a mind has she...lost.

Stephen Pitt

I am just counting the days to Ann is outed.

She has all the hall marks of a m-f transsexual gone bad...

Trust me I've seen this before. I should know because I am TS.

1- She has obviously had plastic surgery with one famous facial feminization surgeon in San Fran known for his 'cookie cutter' faces. Unfortunately (for Ann) while it can fool most of the world, it doesn't fool most of us who know the real deal.

2- She to my knowledge does not have much of a researchable past...hmmmmmmm

3- She has the hostility of a what we call a 'late transitioner' someone who spent most of their life accumulating wealth as a male then decides one day to have sex reassignment. She doesn't know when to put her sword down and relax and enjoy her new femininity.

4- She attacks everyone in hopes that it takes the focus off of her.

5- She is very critica of gays and 'other deginerates' as she says. Again it is a hallmark of conservative late transitioning white TS women who have led white male priviledge all their lives only to find out oooops....

I almost feel sorry for her... but nah, the bitch gets everything she deserves!

Sad thing is when she is outed she will write ANOTHER book that will go on to sell millions so no matter what she gets ahead.... what a loser (M)ann Coulter as she is called in GLBT circles.
Miss Understood 10.21.05 - 4:47 am

Let's not forget her fervent wish that Timothy McVeigh had blown up The New York Times instead of the federal building in Oklahoma City. Nice.

:confused:

Ann is so insistent on killing everyone. So why is SHE allowed to live?? Someone should put her out of our misery.

And it is clear that many others share your obsession.
Peace. your fellow Human

I am from India and politicians have tried and still try to use religion in politics and trust me, the results are short term. There was a reason the founders advocated separation of church and state. The extreme conservatives who spew out venom everyday are forgetting the basic teaching of their religion "Love thy neighbor". I guess if they could, they would rewrite the 10 commandments to say "Love only thy conservative christian neighbor and kill the others". Ann Coulter is just an extreme example of the problem Bush's has created in the last 5 years.

With that swan neck she could deep-throat James Woods.

Steve Flesher (our favorite shill) adores her. I guess Steve's manic phase has lapsed. Otherwise he'd be here to defend her honor.

Ann Coulter has always scared me, but not as much as the people who fervently support and promote her books and ideals.

If Ann wants to do something constructive for a change, she might announce that she's donating the profits from her next book to the Anorexia Foundation.

This might help prevent other young girls with anorexic and bulemic personalities from visiting their angst on people they don't know through reckless and mean-spirited attacks.

Why to go. You showed Ann. I'll bet she stop right away. No, you you idiots need to take the log out of your eyes before you carpet-insult the "right"

Ann Coulter a Gadfly? Dung beetle, surely....

Who says he is a she? Only a doctor knows for sure.

As a part-time centrist, part-time liberal, I read with pleasure about Borcher's attempt to reawaken the conscience of the Conservative movement. I had, frankly, despaired of finding such people on the Right; and without people of conscience on both "sides", there can be no meaningful dialogue between the two. (People of conscience on the Left have gotten harder to identify, too, since at least the Monicagate.)

Brad, thank you for bringing Borcher to our attention, especially in this context.

Ann Coulter is a dead soul. Vicious, opportunistic, full of hate and full of herself. Its about time real conservatives started putting the screws to the bitch.

Trannie Annie Coulter is a MAN, baby!!

The big hands, the big feet, the tall frame, and of course, the prominent ADAM'S APPLE. I have several photos which plainly show the "boy bump" on her throat.

I wouldn't be surprised if Coulter was a closet transsexual, as there are a LOT of gay-bashing closet cases in the neocon regime.

Neocons are Fascists.

For all you guys who want to bone Ann.. Ann is a man, transgender. I suppose if a pig wore a blond wig you would want to do that too, right? Some guys really have no brain.

I had seen small clips of her and for the longest time thought she was part of a SNL skit. When I realized she wasn't a parity I thought whow, she should be on SNL.

There's only _one_ commentary on that powerpoint that needs to be corrected...the only correct-thing she said, regarding agents on aircraft with hollowpoint bullets.

That's...actually correct. Full-metal-jacket bullets would punch right through the fuselage. Special hollowpoints like MagSafe and Glaser Safety Blue will harmlessly break up upon striking a solid object, and that's actually what air marshalls carry.

Cry me for a river for all of these clowns. Coulter DOES speak for them. Hatred is their one and only characteristic. Ever talk to one of these GOP voters? Really fun people-sort of like trying to show a dog a card trick. Not a brain between their ears. They allow someone like Coulter in their empty heads and let her rhetoric doing the talking for them.

There's only _one_ commentary on that powerpoint that needs to be corrected...the only correct-thing she said, regarding agents on aircraft with hollowpoint bullets.

That's...actually correct. Full-metal-jacket bullets would punch right through the fuselage. Special hollowpoints like MagSafe and Glaser Safety Blue will harmlessly break up upon striking a solid object, and that's actually what air marshalls carry.

I think people exposing Ann Coulter are correct. She had made many contradictions and is a Bush follower for the most part. She doesn't discuss much about the civil liberty problems with George W. Bush and other real issues in this nation. She is right on a few issues, but her many outrageous comments ruining the rest of the limited credibility that she possessed. As for religion, many folks have always distorted religion to achieve an end. I don't even consider many extremists a spokesman for any sincere religious individual. Many folks don't want to mention the Atheistic Communists genocide of millions of people in Russia and China. Ann Coulter is caught up in the Left/Right paradigm. She doesn't look at Bush being part of the Bohemian Grove and Skulls and Bones, the evidence pointing to the inside job of 9/11 (proven by folks like WINGTV, Alex Jones, etc.), the CIA leak scandal, the depopulation agenda, Big Brother, how the government trained many "terrorists" before, and the evil Neo-Con agenda threatening the world. The Project for a New American Century outline that rather clearly. The corporate media including tools and puppets like Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, etc. may feed some people spin, but honorable people can learn the real truth and counterract this savage agenda.

A particularly miserable excuse for a human being. Annie's daddy should have pulled out that night. Maybe, we can't blame her parents because she is a robot put together with whatever cheap parts they could scrounge up and a blond wig. Programming courtesy of Hitler.

I think that the Dems are wise to let the Repugs try to manage their own extreme reichwing. These neocons have created the monster which has gotten out of hand, so that whatever the sane part of the conservative agenda might be, it's been overwhelmed by their wackos who were mobilized for a short term win in 2000. If the Dems tried to criticize paople like Coulter et al, the reich would cry foul or sour grapes, and the press would trivialize the complaints. As it is, everything is working out for the Dems. Patience is a virtue.

Speaking of vitrol and hate-mongering and the like.. It's been said on this blog (in a different, likely dead-ish thread) that there's good reason for invading Iraq.. The quote used was "he gassed 300,000 of his own people.. he's a mass murderer!".. coupled with the reports of "shredders" and rape-rooms and other forms of killing, one would be led to believe he killed .. well.. near millions? or near a million? or 700,000? or what? The "implication" of "gassed 300,000" when we know he killed other people in other ways causes confusion (and right-wing distraction). This article shows that the right-wing is "abusing the numbers".. he "gassed 5,000" .. in the decades (what, 20 years?) he's been around, he's killed 300,000 total.. that's what, 15,000 a year? 1250 a month, on average? Given a dictator who's fighting millions to keep his power, that hardly seems "overly different" than -any other evil dictatorship out there-.. does it?

Does that mean I think what he did is ok? not at all.. I think it's unacceptable when a government kills it's own people for greed and gain.. Um.. oops? isnt' letting thousands of people a year die from starvation, poor housing conditions, lack of medical care, etc.. isn't that bad? How many people are dying from cancer from tabacco? and we still sell cigarettes? still SUBSIDISE tabacco crops? Can't the government say "that product is killing large numbers of the population. Make the product safe in 2 years or quit selling your poison".. I mean, isn't the FDA responsible for that? What about the EPA LYING to us about the air after Sept. 11, 2001 so it wouldn't impact the economy? Sent people back into a TOXIC environment.. What about during the First Gulf War when the U.S. sent troops into areas with dangerous gasses and never told them, and never had them put on their protective gear?

My point is, when our government lies to us to pull at our "heart strings" so they can manipulate us to give them what they want, they aren't much better than Saddam.. In fact, I'd say they are worse.. Saddam at least made sure everyone knew he didn't mind going out and killing them.. not like our government that kills us for profit and lies about it so it can keep doing it over and over.

This post is kind of an explination of why I dislike people like Ann, Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, O'Reilly, etc. etc.. They are the people that spin and lie and refuse to have honest debates about things based in fact. Almost -every- time you bring up a valid point worth debating, they jump the track to a different subject.. why? So they can feed the right-wing.. the ignorant, spineless, discompassionate, hate-mongering, greedy, elitists who believe they are entitled to more than "those guys".. and do their damdest to take it. Now they run the country full-on.. and look what a mess they're making. Defunding social programs at record rates, rolling back environmental protections at record rates, and giving money to their corperate buddies at record rates.. Funny, the SAME thing Republicans have been doing for decades, just to the extreme now that they have a full majority.

...sd dan said on 10/20/2005 @ 2:01pm PT...

Watching that video of the powerpoint i'm thinking two things... first: this guy wants to bone ann coulter... and second: I really want to bone ann coulter. she may be crazy, but DAMN she's f-ing hot!

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"Beauty is only skin deep, ugly goes all the way to the soul."

Best description of Ann I ever heard.

Mark701 #101

Several of us on this blog, and others on other blogs, have been pointing out for years that the neoCon phenomenon is nothing more than a symbotic relationship.

They attached to the GOP because they were more suseptible, had just come into power, and power is what the neoCons are wild-eyed about.

There is nothing wrong with a political party wanting to win ... it is natural. And the neoCons used that natural want to corrupt the right side into wrong, criminal pursuits.

"Something is wrong and we must fix it" is the time-worn path to goodness and badness. In this case the neoCons got firmly entrenched into the GOP, so that now when the sane republicans have seen the light, extracating the neoCon from their midst is going to hurt. It may hurt very bad.

Nevertheless we see signs that the republican moderates are going to do just that. Even the conservatives ("true conservatives") are in on this movement to cleanse the neoCons from the GOP.

Good luck to the moderate republicans and conservative republicans ... ridding themselves of the criminals would be good for america.

And American comes first ... before dems, repubs, indys, and greens. America comes first.

RE #113

I meant "symbiotic" rather than "symbotic" ... symbotic is when one robot attaches to another

i remember watching 'out foxed' thinking it was a parody. the things that fly out of that crazy woman's mouth are unbelievable. i recall her saying something about how we canadians are lucky that the USA will allow us to be their neighbor & how they could take us out if they wanted to. to me, whether they could or not is neither here nor there, because they won't. as far as calling us 'lucky', i'd hardly think so. unmedicated crazies do not belong in politics. end of story.

Found this website link on the Huffington Post this morning and am so delighted to find some HONORABLE conservatives. As a liberal democrat, I'd just about given up on having any kind of dialog with anyone on the right. I have never had a problem with the real conservative movement, represented by people like Barry Goldwater and John McCain --- I may vehemently disagree with conservative viewpoints, but honest debate is one of the strengths of this country. The hatred spewed by people like Coulter and Limbaugh is inexcusable. I will be back to the Brad blog.

The secret of Ann Coulter’s success?

Ann Coulter is just the latest in a long line of “shock” performers—and make no mistake, Coulter is a performer first and foremost. She comes from the same lineage as Morton Downey Jr., Andrew Dice Clay, and Howard Stern. Her “shtick” is to be as provocative and outrageous as she can get away with. She’s a female shock jock masquerading as a political pundit.

Coulter astutely saw an opening on the political right for her act. The left was already overcrowded with Hollywood’s beautiful people. Attractive actresses and celebrities invariably take up liberal causes. If she had gone left, Coulter would have been lost in the sauce. So Coulter looked to the right—at the balding, overweight, bespectacled commentators—and saw her market. A relatively attractive woman like Coulter clearly stood out in the crowd of Pat Buchanan, George Will and John McLaughlin. She played her self-conscious sex appeal against those stodgy old boys and found an audience.

In her leather boots and mini-skirts, Coulter created the persona of the longhaired provocative “babe on the right” who could always be counted on to get the controversy going. She made for good theater. People like Bill Maher were as responsible as anyone for creating Coulter. On his “Politically Incorrect” show, Maher frequently rolled out Coulter to counteract the inevitable liberal Hollywood celebrities. Without Coulter, Maher would have been stuck with gorgeous Hollywood airheads debating fat old men.

Why should anyone be surprised that legitimate conservatives are distancing themselves from Coulter? Coulter knows her primary role is to liven things up and keep the circus going. That is what keeps getting her booked on television. She has never been taken seriously as a political commentator. But as a self-promotion genius, she ranks up there with Madonna.

Hmm.. Interesting that this map , crucial to the GOP being able to go destroy nature for oil (as opposed to finding new sources), turns up missing? In this day and age, NO COPIES? No Photos? nothing?

This is why Ann is such a threat.. when you preach hate all day, some people take you up on it (not like our government workers need a push to be amoral for profits). So they draw up an entirely new map which makes life easier for all of them?.. nice..

I really do hate corrupt people.

I can't believe this..it's just too much Good News. First Tom Delay gets booked, and now the Citizens for Principled Conservatism lash out against 'Hitler with a Pretty Face'. If these guys went nuclear over Ann Coulter, wait till they hear about the Fox Network!

If this trend keeps up, maybe Limbaugh will get busted again!

In reply to "Sean" above's comment of:

>>Watching that video of the powerpoint i'm thinking two things... first: this guy wants to bone ann coulter... and second: I really want to bone ann coulter. she may be crazy, but DAMN she's f-ing hot!

I'm guessing you aren't from an area that had lots of transsexuals. Anyone from LA or Miami Beach would know.... There's no slander involved, but seriously...the adam's apple, the big feet and hands, and the bone structure. "She" was born a man.

IMHO there has been way to much time spent on this foul mouthed bitch, I would have to agree she, should be shut down, but IMO she is enjoying all this attention...As for those of you out there that would like to "bone her" thats just sick, IMO she is repulsive............how bout lets move on to more important topics

Re: Comment #89...

Coultergeist is a very classic case indeed. An older white male-to-female transgender "woman" who sucks up to every right-wing viewpoint, and trashes everyone on the left.

Even though "her" Republican bosses will never let "her" have a life of dignity.

Apparently the white male privilege is too addictive to throw away, even when transitioning into womanhood.

As a transwoman myself, I am VERY sick of right-wing trans "women," who compromise up to 1/3 of the so-called community. These sickos, men-in-dresses must be outed and humiliated for what they are. My Coulter fantasy is exposing "her" literally for a Crying Game moment.

Re: #108: "... the evidence pointing to the inside job of 9/11 (proven by folks like WINGTV, Alex Jones, etc.) ..."

I read, once, a fictional character's commenting that one should never call someone else crazy when hearing a statement that sounded that way. Instead, one should ask the speaker what s/he meant.

What _do_ you mean, 'Timothy (TruthSeeker24)'? :confused: :crazy:

--NJB

Amen to what #36 Nonny Mouse writes. Welcome, Mr. Borchers, to a cooperative albeit spirited opportunity for REAL discussion.

As a lifelong bleeding heart, I have always felt that those of us from different political persuasions have more in common than our politicians portray. Divisiveness is a political game. We should stop playing it.

As a country, we, conservatives, liberals and everything inbetween (which describes most of us: bits of everything) all share the same issues. While we may differ on how we address those issues, there is no doubt in my mind that we can find good (not lowest common demoninator) paths by working together.

Mr. Borchers, you don't know how long folks like me have been waiting to have a civil dialogue with folks like you. Thank you for coming forward.

And, by the way, nothing that takes place in this country makes me gloat. I am too filled with the shame of Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, Katrina and the overall corruption of the current administration. Even if the entire administration were frogmarched to prison --- which I think should happen --- I will weep for my country.

As for those interested in, er, shall we say, "intimate encounters" with Ms. Coulter, I suggest that one consider that she, on multiple occasions, loudly proclaimed how hard it was to get "a decent lay." She may be as hateful in the boudoir as she is on TV. And what would one do for foreplay? Waterboard non-Christian babies? Watch reruns of NOLA? Surely, one can do better than [image intentional] joust at windmills.

::resolves never to trust a website's smilies panel again::

:rolleyes: :confused:

If you're a male that's hot for Ann perhaps you should reassess your sexuality and consider coming out of the closet, 'cause really, "she" looks like a tranny on a bad hair day. Just look at the photos posted here. I have a difficult time believing the person in these pics is not a post-op transsexual --not that there is anything wrong with that.

My God she is really anorexic! I think there has to be something wrong with her.... seriously, she acts like someone who has some type of mental illness. At the very least, serious anger issues and it looks like its killing her. She looks as bad off as some heroin-taking models.

I have noticed lately she has turned on Bush and Miers, and even implied that Bush was behaving like a dictator and he better shape up. That surprised me. So apparently she just hates everyone including Republicans. If she keeps up the anorexia, she will not be around much longer anyway.

More and more I think her media outlets are dropping her. She really is just a bile-pusher. She needs help.

To New Jersey Badger:

You know what I meant. I believe the government was involved in 9/11. Many evidence point to that including folks like Alex Jones, Dan Corner, WINGTV, and tons of other folks in the world. This forum isn't about 9/11, but these links discuss about it in more detail:

http://www.wingtv.net/91...doc/911ontrialindex.html

http://www.infowars.com/resources.html

http://www.infowars.com/martial_law_911.htm

http://martiallaw911.info/

http://www.repentamerica...rums/viewtopic.php?t=791

LINK

http://www.oilempire.us/911.html

*The government have been involved in terror attacks for thousands of years, so it's not insane to assume that the government had a role in 9/11. Not to mention that many of the hijackers are alive, they were trained in government bases, and government foreknolwedge have been proven time after time again. Like always Ann Coulter is a brainwashed Neo Con who needs to wake up.

Hermesten,

Coulter does not look like a tranny, for christ's sake. She is an exceedingly beautiful woman, with the longest neck and legs I've ever seen.

Hate her all you want, but don't insult her looks.

I am fascinated by medical oddities, particularly those pertaining to sex. I would love believe that the Adam's apple means something, but isn't it possible that this protuberance is so noticeable because of her weight problem? Al Franken, in his "Lies" book, devoted several chapters to Coulter and ascertained that she had two driver's licenses with a different age on each. Of course, she now claims the younger one is correct. (She is well over 40.) She grew up in Connecticut. Surely there is a high school yearbook, a debate team, a prom picture? If she is a genetic male, I would suspect Androgen Intolerance Syndrome, a genetic condition in which the body is incapable of using male hormones. The affected individual will never devlop male characteristics in the womb. Female primary sex traits are also absent, but the secondary ones blossum nicely at puberty: ample bosom, small waist, etc. Also the person will never have acne or thinning hair, as these are caused by male homones in both sexes. An historical example of a suspected case is Wallis Simpson, the Duchess of Windsor. Anyway, only genetic males are subject to AIS, and though they can never be physical men, even with surgery (because no amount of hormones will work), they still have the Y chromosome and a certain je ne sais quois about them. Maybe someone should examine the area around her seat the next time she appears in public to see if they can find a hair sample for a DNA test.

Gee Blitz, why don't you propose & get her to settle down with you? I think we'd all go for that!

I think "we" are all overthinking Ms. Coulter... everytime I notice her on any of the television shows, spewing her diatribe, she [only] reminds me of a speed freak, "40 miles south of St. Louis" (or some other midwestern town)... the way she grits her jaw so tensley and looks like she is going to explode when she speaks! Either that or she has a severe nervous mental disorder.

I would bet a lot of bucks that if someone ordered and did a substance abuse testing on that woman, the results would be positive for illegal drugs. Angry, distraught, delusional, hysterical... hmmm?

Who cares what Ann Coulter thinks. Like Rush Limbaugh, she is an entertainer. Anyone who takes her seriously as a political thinker is utterly ignorant. I can't look at her or listen to her without getting nauseous, but if she can find enough idiots to buy her books, well it's a free country.

Isnt' that -just- the problem, Gus? Yes, free country.. Yes, people do what they want... Yes, she's an affront to anyone with sensibilities.. the PROBLEM is, there -are- a lot of people who "listen to her".. and because she claims to be part of a "certian group", people from that group are willing to hear her out.. then, the more she spits, the more they suck up..

Brainwashing is all about beating people into believing what you tell them.. Ann and the rest of the talking-right-psychos DO make a difference.. they DO get "normal people" who fancy themselves part of "that group" to start thinking like "her".. How do you think hate spreads? A big part of this is along the lines of "peer pressure"..

bah..

talking-right-psychos = talking(head)-right(wing)-psychos

This is why the country is doomed and has been doomed for about a century. Because people endlessly debate over which political party should be in charge of the mass enslavement. Conservative no longer has any real political meaning, nor do the terms liberal and progressive. These are all nonsense words that infantile slaves banter about. There is only freedom and tyranny, modern day political terms only serve to keep people confused and perpetually debating over how much better their enslavement would be if their dear leaders the ____s were in charge. Rather than being individuals that think for themselves most people are content to join a team--politics has become like sports. The modern day scourge of collectivism has all the fat, stupid, beer swilling TV addled morons acting like the sedated lab rats in a cage that the global elite view them to be. The human race loves hellish totalitarianism, it always has. The aeons pass, the heavens swirl, poles shift, the empires rise and fall but the core belief of the masses remains the same: the human race is like an ant hill, we work, we consume, we die, and we exist only to serve the Queen. A key example of this is the poll of people mentioned above where so many contemptible fools want government healthcare. There's the collectivistic programming of the mass media and government brainwashing system known as public education asserting its dominion over the feeble minds of the hoi polloi. The State is not god and has no right to STEAL from me. But nothing has changed as I said, the constellations may move into new positions but human nature never changes. Humans demand enslavement and call it freedom. The horror of such a death-care system boggle the sane mind--euthanasia, forced abortions, waiting lists a light year long to get some worthless "doctor" who knows absolutely nothing about how to keep the patient well. So count this Hyperindividualist out of this false paradigm of perpetual enslavement, the living death of collectivism. Anyone who still thinks there is such a thing as right vs. left is a fool marching into oblivion--the heroin junkie tripping out in his own world makes more sense than those lunatics.

So yes, Ann Coulter is wrong, this required no power point presentation0--so is Al Franken; so are the progressives...but the majority of humanity, much like the USA itself, is utterly doomed to the Brave New World Order Big Brother control grid nightmare.

#63 "I'd love to see that movie The Corporation which compares the modern American corporation to a sociopath. I think a national airing of that might explain a lot to the American people."

Exactly.. And, that's why I suggested in the other thread that we "prosecute all the 'people' who drive Corperations" when they do things wrong. You can't leave those people in charge, they say "the company did it, not me.. I'm just doing my job".. bullshit..

We need to fix this mess .. and soon..

It' not always the big guys. I've been taken by more plumbers, mechanics, roofers, car salesmen, etc.....and it's up close! It's not corporate culture...it's ALL the culture.

:crazy:

A really funny story about Ann, called "I fucked Ann Coulter in the ass, hard.

Another reason Western Civilization is doomed--adults act and think like children in a sex obsessed way that's just pitiful.

Let's face it, this civilization has a government of the scum by the scum and for the scum. People in general get exactly what they deserve.

Who is Borchers kidding? Conservativism is all about deregulation and privatization --- Every Man for Himself. Liberalism is about government's role in safeguarding the public interest --- We're All in the Same Boat. All things considered, Ann Coulter is the perfect spokesmodel for conservatism.

do you know how much your layout sucks???

I have a 19" monitor and with the browser open full screen I *still* can't read one line without scrolling to the right! Please learn some HTML and re-so it right.

Brenda.. Your "resolution" may be the problem.. the "monitor size" doesn't determine how a page fits (or doesn't).. Granted, some of it can be fixed in HTML, but most is from a "too low resolution" standpoint.. Brad can't fix that.

I'd suggest a 1024×756 for 19", at the smallest.. some like 1200×1024, or, if you have good eyes, 1600×1200. 800×600 is way too low of a resolution for thtat big of a screen.. 640×480 is insane.. just a thought.. I run 1024×756 on my 19", no problems at all.. oh, and I run netscape.. not sure if that matters..

Where were these people back in 1980 when the "new" right took over their party?

Now we will have the new and improved "Oh, but that wasn't me that wrecked the nation and took the world to hell" conservatives. Bullshit. The folks doing this vid may have been standing up for a long time and good for them but they are not the norm. The "conservative" movement has cheered Coulter on with very few exceptions.

Coulter doesn't do anything that isn't much different from what Rush does. Savage? Hannity? O'Reilly? the list is endless. Coulter is the norm. All of them say these same things. They may hide them a smidgen better but they say these same things and believe them.

Ann Coulter IS conservatism. That is who they are.

Yes, this is a good sign but liberals better damn well not let conservatives morph into looking like something they're not and never will be in our lifetime. If you so much as call yourself conservative today, YOU are the cause of our nation's and the world's problems. That isn't "blaming America first", that is where the leaders you have chosen have taken us. Conservative leaders, all of them not just the president, conservtaive leaders who LOVE Rush and Savage and Coulter talk, have turned our great nation into "thugland."

Jeepers Conrad, a little dispondant?

Sure, lots of peopel suck.. they're lazy and ignorant.. but, you're suggesting returning to "a state of nature".. in that condition, nothing happens. We all run around killing animals for meat, picking berries for food, sticking our winkies in any woman we can to breed, and kill each other all willy-nilly for stomping grounds and mating rights.. Like all the rest of the animals (and even THEY have societies in some sense.. only, their government is run by whom ever can beat their chest the best, or kill anyone who tries to take their women). Our job as "intelligent beings" is to find a way to live -despite- our animal nature.

Consumerism is the problem.. the idea that "buying is all that's important". It causes people to satisfy their hedons for no apparent reason other than they are "supposed to".. Corperations specialize in building things in a context of perpetual upgrading, or replacing from breakage or outdatedness (typewritters are all but obsolete with the advent of the computer, for example).

Living in the State of Nature would never allow for technilogical advances either. No blogging, no advanced medical treatments, no abundant food supplies.. no trips to the moon.. we'd still be thinking "why is the man in the moon spying on us?"..

Savanster, just one thing --- in the animal kingdom you will not find murder ... except in the ape family.

I agree with you that consumerism is one of our serious downfalls. Aother is the attitude that it's ok to cheat if nobody catches you - this attitude is rampant in our country today.

Corporations are run by PEOPLE who have made a choice as to which path they will follow --- that of ethical or that of unethical decisions. We shouldn't allow Corporations to be thought of as detached from that simple truth.

"Savanster, just one thing --- in the animal kingdom you will not find murder ... except in the ape family. "

Actually, murder is kind of common.. Lions killing young for breeding purposes.. for example. There are more and more species found to "murder", it's still an "uncommon (to rare? lots of species out there) practice" in the animal world though..

It used to be thought that the Apes were the only animal family that actually "waged war" though.. But, some new studies, I thought, showed that there are a limited number of species that wage war as well.. though, "group combat" for territory isn't exactly the same as "waging war", but it's pretty close.. I've not done any research on this for a long time.. This might be a good time to get back into it

It's funny though.. some of the premises we used to hold as (sometimes bad) examples of what makes us "stand out" aren't really there .. We really are just more animals roaming around the big blue ball.. I think music/art/literature are the only things that we have that other animals don't.. the things that require both higher reasoning and opposable thumbs.. I don't think we -know- if we're the only critters with higher reasoning.. we -think- we are, but I'd say the jury is still out on that..

Coulter is pure horse shit at it's finest.

Kira said - "Corporations are run by PEOPLE who have made a choice as to which path they will follow --- that of ethical or that of unethical decisions. We shouldn't allow Corporations to be thought of as detached from that simple truth."

True, but corporate structure makes it so easy to be unethical. In fact, we have been subject to corporate culture for so long that ethical principles are not real or are quaint or are made hypocritical to those immersed in it. We have seen empirical evidence of this. (As if we couldn't have seen it in the age of the robber barons!)

I think Ambrose Bierce had it right a long time ago. He said a corporation is ""an ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility." That's the horror of what is happening to the world in a nutshell. Individual responsibility fades away. (And the "conservatives" say they advocate individual responsibility. I think they had better think this over.)

Here's a good speech about "commons" and corporations - which, IMO, radiate out into democracy and oppression, self-worth and commodification.

Wanting to bone Ann Coulter? There's no fanny there. She is a man. Check this out

http://journals.aol.com/...ryNewsDigest/entries/811

C'mon, Ann. I'm a Liberal. Make me lick your ass before I fuck it into oblivion. Prove you're not a feminist when you take my dick straight from your ass to your mouth. Show me how tough you are when you take my load right on the nose.

Call me!

Gotta weigh in as another tranny who thinks Ann Coulter is one.

A queer-bashing, self-hating, traumatized, anorexic rich-girl one with enough money to get top-flight cosmetic surgery and not come to grips with the fact that becoming the monster that made you miserable from the day you were born *will not make you go away,*

But a tranny, if I had to guess. Or someone who thought she was one. Physical cues aside, you can tell from her style of wit, her fixation on violence, and the fact that she's literally trying to *destroy* anything that connects her with the source of her pain.

She's trying to identify with the oppressors using her wealthy privilege, only it's not enough, so she continues to try and get the approval of the people she feared and has become.

That's why she's become a caricature of them. Spitting back everything she was taught. No matter whom it hurts. It's a kind of denial only accorded to the wealthy, but it *oozes.*

No Savanster I'm not despondent, merely a realist. Nor do I advocate a return to savagery, just a way out of it. The things you mentioned:

"We all run around killing animals for meat, picking berries for food, sticking our winkies in any woman we can to breed, and kill each other all willy-nilly for stomping grounds and mating rights...only, their government is run by whom ever can beat their chest the best, or kill anyone who tries to take their women."

are exactly the things the human race currently engages in--particularly the government! I advocate a return to freedom, a sort of neo-tribalism where everything is decentralized (like the blogosphere) and governments are very small and easily stomped under freedom's foot if need be. As it is now, we are all totally enslaved. There is no real freedom in the world today.

If the human race is indeed just a pack of advanced animals descended from primordial slime, then there's absolutely no reason to change. We all might as well rape, pillage and have a grand old time until we croak. As a mass of unintelligent beings the smart among us have the job of trying to survive and crush everything that's wrong with the world, and if that means an end to welfare, public education, big government, federal taxation, and all corporations then I'm all for it. Corporations are not compatible with a free market. If only that scumbag puppet FDR hadn't wrecked the free enterprise system...Clinton is scum, Bush is scum and there is a massive conspiracy to murder and enslave all of humanity. The sooner the moronic right vs. left cult members understand the reality of the conspiracy, the sooner some people can get their freedom back. Freedom is taken by force. The elite have taken their freedom at the expense of the dumbed down masses. There is only force in the universe. There is the force of subatomic matter, there is the force of the elite who will impose slavery on an easily duped rabble, and there's the force of some people who are sick of being slaves. Force is energy in motion, for every action an equal and opposite reaction. I want critical mass and would embrace it any day over the docility of complacent popular culture, which is artificially engineered using Frankurt School methods. The Neocons are merely a continuation of the same cabal that McCarthy so bravely went after. There are other 21 year olds like me who know that the world is run by scumbags and that that's the historical norm--it's part of the pathology of power--and we're sick of it. There's a continuum of corruption that is totally ignored by democrat, republican, and progressive cult members. Government has usually been another word for crime syndicate throughout history--of the scum by the scum and for the scum.

Hermesten... While I agree Ann is most likely Trans I do not agree with your assertation that any man who would be with a post op transwoman is gay.

Here is why:

Gay are men attracted to men. Period.
Trans is not the 'slippery slope' to being gay. It's not a 'gateway sexuality or lifestyle'. It is the outward manifestation of one's gender identity.

While ann has masculine characteristics (as do many non-trans women) and is likely trans, many young post op trans women including myself are not as masculine.
http://www.the-backups.com/ingenuej.jpg

My boyfriends were not attracted to me because I looked or sounded like a man, but rather the opposite. There heterosexuality remains intact and my current boyfriend and I are due to marry in January.

The difference is non-trans masculine looking women tend to shy away from thigh high boots and mini skirts as they are a little more self conscious of things like a bony boyish build, masculine face. and adams apple.

That said quite a few trans women I have come across exhibit the physical and mental characteristics as Ann. Many of these women were led lives of priviledge before they changed sex and remained Republican, Conservative and often they will talk against ethnic minorities and gays to take the heat and attention off of themselves. The reason this rumor persists than Ann is Trans is because I am not the only to notice this.

To Blitz: I have seen MANY transsexuals, I know a transwoman when I see one, even many most non trans people would never be able to tell. Until you have been to Thailand and can spot every TS (as I have done) you can not tell me that Ann is not transsexual. She tips off EVERYONE who is not from middle america who have actually met transsexuals, trannie radar.

Ann has the voice, build and face of a late transitioning TS woman and a chip on her shoulder reflecting an inability to leave behind her white male priviledge. Look I wouldn't pick on her if she wasn't such an arrogant bitch but too often people like me: Black, Poor and Trans are the ones who are at the receiving end of her and people like her's hate (see: http://www.rememberingourdead.org for examples) .

I don't mind her being trans other than she is an embarrassment to transwomen. I DO mind her advocating murder, torture and disasterous policies which are ruining my country (yes it is MY country too).

If she left us alone we'd leave her alone.

Until then I believe a DNA test is a good idea. If nothing else it would resolve the question once and for all.

All very true, Jasmine. Of course, it's possible she's just a self-hating abused anorexic rich girl with *other* body image issues and thus is fixated on pleasing the bad guys.... That profile could fit, too.

What I'm afraid of is that, after she's done all this dirty work, her worshippers will turn around and turn her into a big *anti-trans backlash* while never reevaluating what they cheered her on for saying as part of what happens to people they're still determined to hurt.

Kinda like Rush and the drugs thing.

I mean, it seems she really has enough money that she *could* be one of those mythical people who really thought changing sex was a good way to avoid the stigma of being gay. Of course, this only adds up in the world of those very, very few with enough money to really bypass all the things that make this a ridiculous proposition indeed.

I just think maybe it's Occam's Razor time. She's *that* type of rich tranny who gets all the cosmetics and legal work done, then becomes a horrible transphobe and general reactionary without ever dealing with her issues.

That, after all, is what her brand of right wing is all about: Make villains, impose violence, impose religion, Big Lie, ...and never deal with the issues... even if you're cruising toward a really big and embarrassing collapse.

And, what'll happen when she finally gets outed, it won't be about, 'See, what a conservative nutcase!' ...what'll happen is, to keep getting attention, she'll jump at the first Fundie church that wants to use her as a poster child for 'reparative therapy,' "See, this is cureable! I can fake it on TV for attention! All trannies are liars out to deceive people and make true religion and righteousness look bad! Thank Jesus I'm saved, now!"

That's how I see it coming down. No matter whom it hurts. Cause, frankly, few really *care* about us. But lots love to watch. Label, define, get indignant.

Ah.. Conrad.. now I get better insight into your thoughts.. I too was once 21.. and full of spit and fire..

when I was talking about "killing beasts for meat", I didn't mean "corperate farming", I mean running around the woods/jungle/plains trying to kill a deer with your hands.. knife, spear, bow, what have you.. picking berries as in fill you pocket for dinner.. then have to do it tomorrow.. not massive corperate farms that produce enough food in 1 year to support 10,000 people.. That ties back into the lack of technology. Free Markets only work when there's a pooling of resources.. when someone can specialize.. in a tribal world, that can't happen..

Here's something you'll see as the years drag on.. Society serves a function. While it may be true that you would "feel freer" in certain circumstances, in the long run, you'd be at great risk. Your tribal society (which, let's say for the sake of argument is happy and hunkydory) would encounter those who decided not to be tribal.. who joined forces to ward off some threat and liked the results.. They went out to other tribes and absorbed them in too.. had more land, more people, more resources.. Now that "multi-grouped" tribe comes to your shore... on big boats with technology you don't have because you're tribal.. only being "free" and living on the land.. Know what? that's happened already... here.. in the U.S... The people from Europe came and killed all the Native Americans so they could use the land as they saw fit..

Governments and Societies are a natural progression to our evolution. Individuals want protection, so they offer up something to someone bigger than them for that protection.. That's where we are.. We want protection.. from Russia... from China.. from the weather.. from cold.. from hunger.. from our neighbors, in a lot of cases.. Government is a concept.. and in "concept", a "good" thing (well, the vision is for it to act for good.. it's actually neutral.. a non-entity like a company, or a rock.. it's there.. a tool to be used). You talk about Free Market like it's some how a magical thing that is self regulating and "good".. but it too, is just a tool.. and used by bad people, will do bad things.. Just like Corperations today.. the "people" make it bad.. A company can be a -great- thing.. it can do wonderful things, if used for good. When it's used by some super-rich guy to make his pockets fuller, when that's his -only- goal, it's a bad thing..

But, here's the shitty part. Government is -supposed- to be protecting us from that. The job of the Government is clearly defined, especially in the U.S. The problem, as you point out, is that bad people use it for bad things. Without Government, most of what we have to day wouldn't exist.. now or ever.. In small splintered groups, we don't have the collective manpower and knowhow to "advance"..

What we need now is.. we need to wake our fellow Americans the fuck up.. They are asleep at the wheel, intoxicated by toys and goodies and fear. They consume to fill some void.. "OH! If I just get that NEW CAR! Life will be great! I'll get laid.. I'll get friends.. I'll party all the time.. I'll get a raise.. the T.V. implied it!".. Then there's the side "If he has that and I know I'm better than him, I better buy something bigger!". Then, today (more now than ever before in history.. ever..), we have "debt".. lots of it.. more and more and more.. and that brings fear.. "oh shit.. if I say anything about politics at work that my boss doesn't like it, he can fire me (woot! gotta love "no fault states").. then I can't pay for that car I got that I didn't need but wanted to have to get laid.. that'll suck!".. Or worse "Man, if I get fired I'll lose the house and car.. and can't pay the credit card bills which have last month's food on them, and the new computer is still on it. .and why did I buy that 60" Plasma TV?.. where will the wife and kids sleep? How are all 4 of us gonna fit in the Honda with the dog?".. See, these are real fears as you start to "accumulate wealth". Governments are meant to help protect that.. but have been used by bad people to limit the protections for "us" and maximize protections (and profits and all that) for themselves.

The only solution is for us to get people to get out of their sleepy haze. They need to start learning how to think again.. need to start understanding that their apathy -is- hurting them, -is- making them slaves, as you point out. Most people don't see it.. well, they don't admit it to themselves... Most people, in my expierence, are too simple-minded to handle the truth. It's easier to just close their eyes and keep consuming, hoping the next thing they buy will be what it takes to "make them happy"..

I don't know.. With all the "not too bright" people I've met, I don't hold much hope that we'll be able to "peacfully" hold back the tide.. part of the problem is, the rich and right-wing are trying to do exactly what you suggest.. cut off welfare, medicare, support networks for the poor.. Problem is, the poor are mostly poor because the rich are "clinical" and insanely greedy.. What the hell does Bill Gates need with $51 billion in personal assets? I'm guessing there's an obsessive-compulsive disorder there, and the fixation is money.. Most rich folks are like that. What most people refuse to see is (even your "free market" would die here..), there are only so many resources to go around. When 90% of all that there is to "have" is tied up with 10% of the population, that doesn't leave much for the rest of us. Which is exactly what Government "of the people, by the people, for the people" is supposed to mitigate. But, you're right.. that's not what we have. What we have NOW is, Government of the "greedy corperate boards" by the "semi-rich obsessed with power" for the "greedy corperate boards and the top 10% - 40% who want free money on the backs of others"..

Fix that to be what it's supposed to be, and that freedom you think is "missing" will be back. Sure, we'll be slaves to the machine in a limited sense.. but it's either that with nice toys and technology, or slaves to our stomachs need of shelter.. You pick..

I see nothing wrong with picking berries and hunting deer. That's self sufficiency, that's they individuals are supposed to live. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with certain modes of farming. The two methods of getting food are not mutually exclusive, that's the nature of true freedom--it isn't a single form imposed upon all system. I used the term "neo"-tribalism to differentiate it from the primitive variety.

The word "society" is another nonsense word. There is no such thing as society, it's a collective abstraction that can mean almost anything depending on whomever is using it. Usually the term society is just another way to say conform. Thoreau was correct when he said that society everywhere was a conspiracy against the individual.

As to resources, you're wrong. It is not a zero sum situation. We have limitless resources, and as beneficial technology progresses there are limitless ways to go about utilizing them.

There is no "right wing". There is no "left wing". There are just power mad freaks, the dullards they control, and those who resist. Now not all of those that resist are 100 percent, most of that category is totally wrong, i.e., they're against the free market which simply means unfettered competition--which if allowed to occur would make it impossible for corporations to form. A multi-national corporation is never a good thing, they are all just oligopolies controlled by a global oligarchy through interlocking directorates. Bill Gates is not the richest man in the world, he is small potatoes compared with the trillionaires who really rule the world.

All a free market requires is one man who can produce a salable product, eventually that may build into something larger, but the basis of it all is private property.

The problem is that I don't want to be protected, I want to be allowed to protect myself. That's the true function of legitimate government--merely to foster an environment where people can thrive, take care of themselves. Welfare is organized theft, no different from a highway bandit a hundred years ago. It makes no difference why the bandid steals your stuff, he's a theif and he's in the wrong. Even if that bandit has the intention of using the stolen loot to help homeless people it is theft and is wrong. Charities took care of people much better than governments. I only wish the mythical "right wing" were trying to evicerate welfare, instead they've dramatically expanded it. The size of government has more than doubled under the republican wing of the power demon. Centralized power anywhere and everywhere is evil--every man with such power is a potential Hitler, there are no exceptions.

Another thing that's enslaved us is the fake money that the Federal Reserve prints out of thin air. We need a real currency with which to facilitate the free trade of goods and services. The free market worked, that's why the robber barons had to destroy it. It's why the Rockefeller motto is "Competition is a sin".

There is no way to end all warfare, but which is better the neo-tribal wars of limited scope or the global wars that are cyclically engineered in order to get the sheep to bleat for global government? Once a great cataclysm washes away the flotsam and jetsam progress can be made in the right direction. There is no way to wake the majority of people up--that's why the majority never has and never will matter; they are merely in the way. It is always a dedicated minority that changes things, whether it be for better or worse. This is why democracy is a total lie, it simply doesn't exist and if it did it would still be a terrible thing because freedom can't be built on the shifting sands of the masses.

The UN is evil. The Democrats are evil. The Republicans are evil. The moron masses are just in the way.

I will not change as I grow older, this I know. Because quite frankly I don't intend on living my life as a slave, which probably means I'll have a short life but that doesn't matter at all. What matters is the force of freedom.

Savanster #143

I haven't researched the subject in a long time either - obviously have missed the new findings you brought up. The opposable thumbs definitely give the advantage to using tools & writing down our thoughts.

Arry #145

I agree with you that corporate structure makes it easy to be unethical. This is something that imho should be changed but probably won't until the entire system collapses from decay.

Well Conrad.. I have to say.. you're a perfect example of someone who's dangerous with a little info. While you know some good points of some of it, you try to over-simplify the rest.. you can't get your head around the fact that, as a world and nation, we only have all we have because of the technology that is born out of "society" and "cooperation"..

If you want to live off the land, free and unfettered, there's huge jungles in South America and Africa. You can go get lost there, live on the land, and never have to deal with another human being again. I almost headed off that way once.. I like toys too much.. Life is a lot easier now than it used to be, in a lot of respects.

He are some examples of where you're wrong. I'm not sure where you got some of these ideas..

"As to resources, you're wrong. It is not a zero sum situation. We have limitless resources, and as beneficial technology progresses there are limitless ways to go about utilizing them."

So, the total mass of the planet is limitless? The number of trees for furniture, fuel, construction.. limitless? You can kill all the animals you want, there'll be more? Look at the North American Bison.. There's enough fresh water for everyone all over? never a shortage or supply problem? Move to the desert.. Enough land for every person to have "plenty" for farming and hunting? If there's "limitless" resources, why does the U.S. consume near 40% of what's available in the world today? It used to be more, but we're downsizing our industrial base. The human race is doubling in size every 14 - 18 years (on average).. If people are starving to death all over the world now, what's gonna happen in 30 years? 50? 75? Your assertion that "resources are limitless" is misguided and uneducated. You may "think" there's plenty, but trust me.. Physics contradicts your "beliefe"..

"That's the true function of legitimate government--merely to foster an environment where people can thrive, take care of themselves."

Yet, how do you propose this happens? What kind of "environment" allows everyone to take care of themselves? What of those who can't chase down a deer.. let them starve? Or, perhaps they can be skinning the deer you caught while you're getting them one.. after you kill 2, they get one you get one.. Ah.. your free market.. What if you get a band of 10 guys.. go out and kill 30 deer and send 5 out to scare off the rest so no one else "in that area" can get their own.. then what? should the government tell you no? but that's interfering with your "freedom".. and your "free market".. right?

"Centralized power anywhere and everywhere is evil--every man with such power is a potential Hitler, there are no exceptions. "

and on this, we mostly agree.. But, that's exactly why we don't really have a "centralized government"..we have a republic where every 4 - 6 years people VOTE on who they want to represent them in the government.. And, we have 2 levels.. States, which are mostly soverign.. and the Fedral Government, which is supposed to keep an eye out on the bigger picture. Our government is supposed to be "chose by the people anew every so often".. which should technically keep it honest. It's been a slow transition to what we have now, but we -can- fix it. we -can- make the government adhere tothe "will of the people" again.. we -can- drop a lot of these chains. We just have to try, and work together.

"Another thing that's enslaved us is the fake money that the Federal Reserve prints out of thin air. We need a real currency with which to facilitate the free trade of goods and services. The free market worked, that's why the robber barons had to destroy it. It's why the Rockefeller motto is "Competition is a sin"."

I agree that we have a problem with the Federal Reserve, but it's not "our" fault.. the Constitution had protections in place, we just let our "leaders" ignore them, flaunt them. We need to get it fixed. You know why it's called the "Federal Reserve"? To confuse people... MOST people don't know it's a private bank.. Hell, I'm 36 and just found that out 2 years ago (or so). The name is meant to confuse.. wich is easy when a large percentage of our population thinks we have 48 states in the Union.. or 52.. depends on the day I guess..

Education is extremely important.. we're lacking that in this country. And that's not an accident. As you say, the rich shitbags from way back when have been slowly working up to this point.. slowly been working at erroding the Constitution and our freedoms to their own gains. Some of us realize that we can have a pretty good country here.. if we fix things.

If you really don't like the way it works, head off to the jungle. No one will stop ya..

Liberal Tranny #151 said:

"What I'm afraid of is that, after she's done all this dirty work, her worshippers will turn around and turn her into a big *anti-trans backlash* while never reevaluating what they cheered her on for..."

This is very, very true. The current Republican mindset is the old Double-Standard mindset. They get to have their cake and eat it too. For awhile. They will finally get their 'just desserts' if there is any justice at all.

Hey, I'd still show her the bone.

I'd have to kill her afterwords but at least she'd die happy.

Hey, I'd still show her the bone.

I'd have to kill her afterwords but at least she'd die happy.

Just imagine living with this kind of sentiment, before you figure all trannies are *born* crazy.

Guys that can't even spell think we go through all this to cheerfully be raped and killed by *them.*

That's *monstrous,* Scott.

Though, Scott, maybe that's just what guys like you *see* in Anne Coulter... a woman who'll starve herself and remake herself into just the kind of bitchy woman who'll validate your conservative right to treat her like dirt and dispose of her.

Scream for your right to use and dispose of her as a 'deviant,' cause she's just that self-destructive.

Maybe, you know?

I think that says something about what you're both shovelling.

You can redefine society to fit your thought patterns if you wish. We have the technology we have today because of individuals who made great discoveries that were built on by other individuals. Yes individuals can work together and not be collectivists.

Life is a easier which means people are complacent slaves--over fed slaves.

"So, the total mass of the planet is limitless?"

You neglect that poritions of the planet are renewable. You also neglect the other planets of the universe which we'd already have colonies on by now if it weren't for NASA and other government space agencies' monopoly on space.

"The number of trees for furniture, fuel, construction.. limitless?"

Renewable in a limitless fashion. Do you think it would be economically wise for a land owner to strip mine his property and thereby destroy its value? This is why under a free market a smalltime forester will plant more trees than he cuts down.

"You can kill all the animals you want, there'll be more?"

Again limitlessly renewable. In case you have forgotten, animals reproduce in great abundance when left to their own devices. The world will never run out of chicken nuggets, even under the current neofeudalist slave grid sans free market.

"Look at the North American Bison..."

One instance of stupid unmitigated obliteration that occured because there weren't fences and property owners and bison ranchers.

"There's enough fresh water for everyone all over?"

Remember the news articles years back that suggested that today's fresh water supply consisted mainly of dinosaur urine? There is a natural filter for water, there are also great gravity water filters. So yes, water is quite abundant. You can point to third world countries that have no semblance of a free market and the commons are totally polluted like a public restroom. This is why freedom would make for cleaner water.

"Never a shortage or supply problem?"

You really underestimate human ingenuity don't you? Such problems are surmounted and always have been. New ways of using resources, new technology, etc.

"Move to the desert..."

Already have. You'd be surprised how much life there is out here in the Mojave, just as there is in all the deserts of the world.

"Enough land for every person to have 'plenty' for farming and hunting?"

Of course. Why not?

"If there's 'limitless' resources, why does the U.S. consume near 40% of what's available in the world today?"

40 percent of what's produced. Over 6000 years of recorded history and we still haven't stopped producing things in great abundance. It's not zero sum.

"It used to be more, but we're downsizing our industrial base."

Hooray for McJobs and Walmartization. Deindustrialization is another reason we're slaves. The idea that the US needs to equalize it's consumption with that of other countries is collectivistic and tyrannical--let them catch up to us. A free market would literally solve all our problems.

"The human race is doubling in size every 14 - 18 years (on average)..."

I doubt these figures. There's no way you can be sure of any global population count. But even if they're correct, poverty cause people to screw like rabbits. Free market cures poverty and hence would cure any localized over-population. Are you a Malthusian?

"Physics contradicts your 'beliefe'"

Energy is neither created nor destroyed only transformed.

"What of those who can't chase down a deer.. let them starve?"

This is what charities were for. Making government the big charity and caretaker of people is an impossibility. Government doesn't want to nor can it help people.

"What if you get a band of 10 guys.. go out and kill 30 deer and send 5 out to scare off the rest so no one else 'in that area' can get their own.. then what? should the government tell you no? but that's interfering with your 'freedom'.. and your "free market".. right?"

This is what land ownership is all about. You don't make a lot of sense to me because I'm an individualist. You're coming from a zero sum collectivistic perspective that says deers don't reproduce when history proves you wrong. Deers do reproduce.

"..we have a republic where every 4 - 6 years people VOTE on who they want to represent them in the government.."

Nobody can represent me but myself. There's a rigged system where council on foreign relations whores all get together and stage an election like the WWF stages wrestling matches and there's dumb voters who like voting themselves a new frontman for slavery. That's all it is--a total sham. In theory government exists by the consent of the governed--here's the crutch of my argument: I NEVER CONSENTED TO BE SO GOVERNED!

"And, we have 2 levels.. States, which are mostly soverign.."

No, the states are total whores to the federal government. A teeny tiny exampe of this is California's legalization of medical marijuana and the federales saying "Nope, you're our slave and you will do what you say." States' rights went out with the civil war.

"Our government is supposed to be 'chose by the people anew every so often'.. which should technically keep it honest."

How is that supposed to work? On what basis is this assumption made that the majority of the people agreeing on something makes it ok? On what basis is the assumption made that the majority of people are honest? The reality is the majority of people are degenerate scum. The idea that the act of a majority of voters legitimized anything is superstitious nonsense. The idea that a politician is transformed into something special and is granted the right to rule over other people by voters is superstitious nonsense.

The problem is that the will of the people has enabled the government to do what it has. The will, or the lack thereof, of the people let Hitler do what he did. The will, or lack thereof, allowed Mao to massacre tens of millions of Chinese people. The will of the people isn't worth a bucket of pig slop.

"I agree that we have a problem with the Federal Reserve, but it's not 'our' fault.."

Oh but it is, once again the will of the people has utterly failed. Building anything on the will of the people, a vague collectivistic idea in itself, is like trying to build on quicksand.

"the Constitution had protections in place..."

The constitution is a piece of paper and as such it's a dead letter.

"we just let our "leaders" ignore them, flaunt them."

Yeah, there's your will of the people at work again.

Yes the Federal Reserve System isn't federal, there are no reserves and as a system it's nothing more than a scam by the big shareholders--families like the Rockefellers, Rothschilds and the inbred European Royal clans.

"If you really don't like the way it works, head off to the jungle. No one will stop ya.."

You're missing the point entirely. Freedom means having lots of options, if my only option is to leap out into the wilderness as a survivalist, then I'm not free. I want to fix things as well, but not along collectivistic lines, because that's no solution at all.

And, since we got buried in some social theory or something, there, Scott, imagine, if you're even capable of it...

*Being* the person that any old loser feels it's OK to say about her just the thing you just said.

Ann Coulter clearly can't.

Even if she *is* one.

And that's, doubtless, her problem in a nutshell.

Ann Coulter is a goddess and I want to eat her shit and lick her ass afterwards!

:D

Well, that'd be another problem entirely. but I hear it's a popular problem in Germany.

Funny, there.

It's always good for a quick laugh watching you libs try and pass off yet another one of your fake "conservative" organizations.

Thank you! Because of Ann and many other like her I have stop watching the news. For the last three years I have been getting most of my news from the internet. My minister an I often discuss the hate and lies the comes from the far right, conservative, etc.... The hypocrisy is just too much and they all clam to be christians. As my grand parent use to say "Don't play with God". Your slide presentation was excellent and I look forward to your documentary. I have kept hope over these last five year and now I see some light. I am glad the we are different and have different view but our views do not have to be expressed with hate. Thank you and keep up the good work.

Gee, I do not like to doubt their sincerity, but just
were in hell have they been for the past 5 years?

Call back when you condem Rush, then they may
just have an audience.

It was the duty of every true conservative, to condem
these demogogs from the outset of thier reign of terror.

Too little too late.

I'm telling you, this is Todd Rundren with a blonde wig on, and he's fooling all the rightwingers. I was wondering what Todd was up to lately!

"I don't want to work, I just want to bang on the drum all day!"

Can someone post a side-by-side picture off Ann Coulter and "hoagie-head" Todd Rundgren, side by side??? Please???

I'd like to see the conservatives denounce the "religious right" while they're at it. The RR is anything but religious or right.

My son informed me that the young Republicans which permeate his NY campus had a field trip to see Coulter. That was so alarming to me. I don't want to believe that you must be a hateful piece of shit in order to be a Republican, although lately it appears that hatefulness in the name of gawd is the name of the game.

Furthermore Ann Coulter is not a female. The men who have a hard on for her are latently gay and should get over themselves, come out of the closet and breathe a sigh of relief.

Ann is to politics what Howard Stern is to radio and cable tv.... a shock jock.

It's not so much that she believes what she says, it's the shock value. She thrives on the publicity and money it creates for her.

Just another hypocrate who loves the sound of her own voice, and the thrill of causing pain for those she doesn't like.

Having read all the above comments, I have only one question for all of you:

Did you run a similar thread when Senator Dick Durbin(D) compared Camp Delta(the detention center at Guantanamo Bay) with the "killing fields of the Pol Pot regime?", did you cheer him on or did you condemn his ridiculously exaggerated, military bashing rhetoric as aggressively as you herein condemn Coulter for her own partisan extremities?

I wouldn't fuck Coulter with George Bush's dick.

Seth --- you obviously need help in understanding that a comparison between coulter who continuously makes extremely untrue and venomous statements about non-Republicans and Dick Durbin is completely off-base. To say (as you did in your comment #174), "his ridiculously exaggerated, military bashing rhetoric" only shows you have never taken the time to find out what Durbin's comments were, in reality.

Here's what Durbin actually said (I'm putting in a good bit, but it's well worth reading the ENTIRITY of his speech before you fall into a trap created by hate mongering pundits who lead you into believing something false - because they take words out of context, create and disseminate lies.) Stop being led about by the nose, Seth. Take charge of your own brain! Don't let these base individuals take away your freedom and independence!

U.S. Senate Floor Statement by Sen. Dick Durbin on Guantanamo Bay

[snip] ... Former Congressman Pete Peterson of Florida, a man I call a good friend and a man I served with in the House of Representatives, is a unique individual. He is one of the most cheerful people you would ever want to meet. You would never know, when you meet him, he was an Air Force pilot taken prisoner of war in Vietnam and spent 6 1/2 years in a Vietnamese prison. Here is what he said about this issue in a letter that he sent to me. Pete Peterson wrote:

>From my 6 1/2 years of captivity in Vietnam, I know what life in a foreign prison is like. To a large degree, I credit the Geneva Conventions for my survival....This is one reason the United States has led the world in upholding treaties governing the status and care of enemy prisoners: because these standards also protect us....We need absolute clarity that America will continue to set the gold standard in the treatment of prisoners in wartime.

Abusive detention and interrogation policies make it much more difficult to win the support of people around the world, particularly those in the Muslim world. The war on terrorism is not a popularity contest, but anti-American sentiment breeds sympathy for anti-American terrorist organizations and makes it far easier for them to recruit young terrorists.

Polls show that Muslims have positive attitudes toward the American people and our values. However, overall, favorable ratings toward the United States and its Government are very low. This is driven largely by the negative attitudes toward the policies of this administration.

Muslims respect our values, but we must convince them that our actions reflect these values. That's why the 9/11 Commission recommended: "We should offer an example of moral leadership in the world, committed to treat people humanely, abide by the rule of law, and be generous and caring to our neighbors."

What should we do? Imagine if the President had followed Colin Powell's advice and respected our treaty obligations. How would things have been different?

We still would have the ability to hold detainees and to interrogate them aggressively. Members of al-Qaida would not be prisoners of war. We would be able to do everything we need to do to keep our country safe. The difference is, we would not have damaged our reputation in the international community in the process.

When you read some of the graphic descriptions of what has occurred here --- I almost hesitate to put them in the record, and yet they have to be added to this debate. Let me read to you what one FBI agent saw. And I quote from his report:

On a couple of occasions, I entered interview rooms to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food or water. Most times they urinated or defecated on themselves, and had been left there for 18-24 hours or more. On one occasion, the air conditioning had been turned down so far and the temperature was so cold in the room, that the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold....On another occasion, the [air conditioner] had been turned off, making the temperature in the unventilated room well over 100 degrees. The detainee was almost unconscious on the floor, with a pile of hair next to him. He had apparently been literally pulling his hair out throughout the night. On another occasion, not only was the temperature unbearably hot, but extremely loud rap music was being played in the room, and had been since the day before, with the detainee chained hand and foot in the fetal position on the tile floor.

If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime --- Pol Pot or others --- that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.

It is not too late. I hope we will learn from history. I hope we will change course. ... [snip]

POLITICAL SOLUTION: FIRE THEM ALL AND START ALL OVER. WILL WE HAVE ANOTHER REVOLUTION? OR ANOTHER "CIVAL" WAR IN AMERICA?
TREASON IS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH...LETS WE THE PEOPLE START ENFORCING OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS TO THOSE WHO WANT TO TAKE OUR FREEDOM FROM US, THOSE WHO WILL OUT SOURCE OUR COUNTRY IN THE NAME OF CORPORATE GREED & CORPORATE WELFARE. THOSE WHO SELL OUT TO FOREIGN INTEREST'S OR FOREIGN COUNTIES.

Sorry...meant "Civil" war...as for the capital letters..which is meant as yelling...I'm f**king pissed at those in power and want to destroy our country....I only hope they all die slow and painful death

I think Ann Coulter is doing more to reduce the number of conservatives in America than most liberals. Every time she reveals the true colors of conservatism by opening up her devilish mouth, conservatives become more and more marginalized.

Just keep showing her quotes to your friends.

I miss Cookie. And I like Ann Coulter.

You can paste the full Durbin quotes as much as you like and nothing will happen, unfortunately. People choose to ignore the reality as his statements for their own purposes. Even in the face of obvious comments like that, people still somehow manage to twist them around. The fact that people still think Durbin was somehow bashing the military speaks loudly for how insanely uninformed people are. Just repeat what you're force fed and everything is fine, I guess.

Coulter scares me as a human being. I don't really claim to be in one party or the other, but she's just a scary, degenerate human being who doesn't deserve air time.

She looks to be a transvite!!!

I would LOVE TO BONE Her!!!!!

I only wish I had the chance!!!!!

BTW...

Do you have anyway to contacy her?

While switching through the cable news shows last night I saw her: Ann Coulter, the hick-ass twit who calls herself a constitutional expert. The first thing that grabs your immediate attention when this
reptile-like slut is on camera is her BEAK-like nose that you know would be just great for plowing potato fields in Maine. Then, of course, you notice her uneven beady eyes attached to her rather long
skeleton-like face that contains two DUMBO-like ears. Covering this collection of genetically engineered pimpled covered flesh encased in enormous amounts of TV makeup is her most striking feature-- her
bleach-blond mop that tries to hide the plainness that mother nature has given to this slime-faced right-wing political whore.

It is her rodent-like mouth, however, that really sets this two-bit collection of human sludge apart from others. While shaped like a mutated asshole, it is constantly opening and closing, like those play
false teeth that you wind up and let chatter. In Ann's case the chatter never stops as her motor mouth is in constant motion as it spews forth verbal-shit like diarrhea from a farting asshole.

Ann is so in love with her motor mouth that she has each and every appearance video recoded so she can go home and spend countless hours masturbating to her words and image which to her is the best sex she
ever had.

In my opinion this right-wing slut was an unwanted child, perhaps the result of a massive human-animal gangbang, who probably had numerous things shoved up every opening in her skanky. puss festering body as a girl which is why she is such a phoney, fart-faced, repulsive BIMBO.

xona
calling it like i see it

Gee Xona_

That oughta make her shut up :confused:

Anyone who listens to anything this twat says is an idiot.

BTW...what are conservatives trying to conserve?

I hope everybody knows that Ann Coulter and people like her, on the right and the left, are
CIA mouthpieces. They get paid to keep people
on both sides fighting instead of getting rid of
all the corrupt politicians, meaning all of the politicians.

When will people put the lawyers and politicians in their place and just accept God as their only leader?
And when will people return to keeping all of God's Laws listed in the first five books of the bible?
(not just 10 commandments)

The rich elitists pay people like Ann Coulter to make
'liberals' angry, and Noam Chomsky to make 'conservatives' angry. Then nobody gets mad at the politicians and get rid of them.

Satan gets people to choose between 'conservatives' and 'liberals', so they won't choose God and get rid of human rulers.

If you agree with this, then go here and read this:

http://jahtruth.net/plan.htm

Fight For Go(o)d
Toby

They two sects of the same cult, that of collectivism, keep fighting. Noam Chomsky is considered the leading intellectual when he supports things such as a military draft. Chomsky is even worse than Coulter because he has more currency with the dopey youth.

Rather than reading and listening to statists like Chomsky, people should be more reasoned and angry like Alex E. Jones.

Amen, Conrad.

Alex Jones' site has good info:
www.prisonplanet.com/

But even better check out:
http://jahtruth.net/

Jesus (and Gandhi) had the right way to oppose tyranny. Jesus wasn't afraid to die, so he confronted the lawyers and politicains(pharisees and scribes) all the way. the Romans turned Jesus'
example into Christianity, to make people think
that Jesus was to be worshipped instead of being
emulated.

We can't die, we're souls trapped in bodies on
Heaven's prison planet. If we want peace on this
planet, we have to fight for it.

Now here's the plan:
http://jahtruth.net/plan.htm

Jesus, God, Satan, Gandhi....and Ann fucking Coulter...you are some deluded motherfuckers.
Good luck with that afterlife thng.

The first time I ever saw Ann Coulter, I recognized that she was emotionally disturbed. Her views are extreme, her gay bashing is a feeble attempt to hide her own lesbian homosexuality and her fidgeting, hair yanking, and other telltale signs of agitation and anxiety are clear indicators of a chaotic mind. Her ties to a political extremist ideology are simply a way for her to gain a national audience. Her recent bashing of non-neo-con GOPers suggests a desire to run the country, a sign of grandiose ideation gone awry.

This story is in the current issue of Comeuppance Magazine, now appearing on the Tild newsstand:

http://tildblog.blogspot...10/now-at-newsstand.html

Ann is hilarious, and uses a lot of hyperbole. Does she sometimes go too far? Maybe.

I think a lot of the comments I have read hear are a lot more hateful, un-Christian and crude than anything Ann has written.

Like most of us, she has a couple of virtues she could work on. Meanwhile, she is great at presenting and defending her point of view in an entertaining manner.

Ann points out that Jesus wasn't a Volvo-driving pacifist hippie whose mission was to tell everyone, "Be nice". Jesus called names, used a rope to whip people, knocked over their stuff, and got people so angry at him they killed him.

Wow, Rebecca!

You and Ann certainly have a twisted view of Jesus.

Unfortunately you aren't alone as evidenced by the multitude of faux-christians such as pat robertson and jerry falwell, etc. and their followers.

If Jesus was here in the flesh today, he would be driving them out of the Temple, as we speak. They are the 'moneychangers.' They are selling goods in the holy house. They beg for people to 'dig deep' and give their last cent to them --- and guess what? Thousands of sick and elderly and poverty stricken will send in their very last dime to these charlatans.

Coulter looks for ways to absolve herself for her viciousness, but it is blasphemous for her to use the most decent of mankind in this twisted way to do so.

I agree with liberatranny that that coulter's political mania is some manifestation of some deep seated emotional problem that she refuses to deal with. I would in no way criticize her for being tg or use that as an insult, but those who deny their essence buy bashing glbt folks deserve all the censure that they deserve.

oops...meant to say... "But those who deny their essence by bashing glbt folks deserve all the censure that they GET!!!""

RE: #127
Timothy (TruthSeeker24)...

If you honestly believe that stuff, then you are seriously deluded, and/or as nutty as a fruitcake. Your theories require that a substantial portion of the human race be "in on it", while existing, proven-in-blood conspiracy praxis requires that as few as possible persons know the truth in order to keep any secret.

I will bandy words with you no longer; if you choose to reply, the field is yours for the last word. We have no common ground of perception, you and I.

New Jersey Badger, signing off.

Timothy (TruthSeeker24) was 100 percent correct. You don't understand how conspiracies work New Jersey Badger, not everyone who participates in them does so knowingly--most people are duped and have no idea what they're involved in. Once you understand that the word "Government" is usually just a euphemism for crime syndicate and has been throughout history post 127 makes all the sense in the world. 9-11 required no more than 300 people fully in the know. Conspiracies are compartmentalized and have a rings within rings pattern. There is the inner core that directs everything, and their orders ripple out like the concentric ripples of a stone throne into a pond. Then there are all the outer circles of power.

I used to wonder how Hitler could have gotten away with burning the Reichstag, but then I realized that most people are totally oblivious fools and that "government" is just another word for mafia and once that occured it all made perfect sense. The world has always been run by evil people, that's the pathology of power--the psychopaths are attracted to it like magnets. All throughout history governments have virtually been nothing but mass murdering regimes controlled by elite megalomaniacs--that's what history is. Those that respect "government" as a legitimate enterprise when it's really a criminal enterprise are the totally oblivious fools and unfortunately they vote regularly. The act of voting legitimizes--in the minds of those who do it and respect it--the illegitimate power monopoly of the state. It is all symptomatic of mass insanity, pavlovian conditioning, dereistic thought patterns that have been programmed into the populace via advanced mind control techniques.

Why do we bash Coulter because she is hateful and repulsive. We enjoy it!! Its good clean fun.

New Jersey Badger: If you honestly believe that stuff, then you are seriously deluded, and/or as nutty as a fruitcake. Your theories require that a substantial portion of the human race be "in on it", while existing, proven-in-blood conspiracy praxis requires that as few as possible persons know the truth in order to keep any secret.I will bandy words with you no longer; if you choose to reply, the field is yours for the last word. We have no common ground of perception, you and I.New Jersey Badger, signing off.

Response: I honest believe that stuff since they are validated by real sources and it's a very logical conclusion. I'm not nutty and many folks subscribe to my notions like Morgan Reynolds, Victor Thorn, Alex Jones, military people, scholars, engineers, and tons of human being around the world. Obviously all of those people aren't insane or nuts. This is not a theory, but a conspiracy fact. Conspiracies by definition means more than one person planning and executing a plan to achieve a specific end. By that definition alone, tons of conspiracies have existed throughout human history. Even the Bible mentioned conspiracy, so people describing conspiracies aren't irrational. Conspiracies can be compartmentalized, so a select few can know all of its details, while the common people are oblivious to the plot.

All information must be evaluated to develop its credibility, but 9/11 being an inside job have stood the test of time and review. As for conspiracies, all of the human race don't realize it. That's normal for things done in secret can be withheld from people. Just because few people know about real history, doesn't mean that real history doesn't exist. Few people realize that select American industrialists supplied Hitler with arms, but that doesn't mean that Hitler wasn't funded by no American businessmen. I realize that we have no common ground. I accept the view that government today is corrupt and we have a responsibility to expose evil in government. I believe that Bush's oath to the evil, dark Bohemian Grove and Skulls and Bones are innapropriate if he wants to proclaim himself as moral or some sort of "Christian." The facts are there with people waking up everyday about them. The links I've prevented to you not only display the fallacies of the accepted story of 9/11, but gives the fact of select people in government desiring to own oil resources, fight illegal/immoral wars, and promote an one world government agenda. Even now, folks are bashing alternative natural medicine through the Codex scheme. Ann Coulter is a useful tool of Bush and the corporate people plus the rest of the Elite controlling him.

My hope is that you can wake up since the door is there.

SEE COMMENT # 121

What could be more important than talking about me?

Well ann, you can clear up one point of controversy here and now. Are you or aren't you? :hehe:

Floridiot said on 10/20/2005 @ 2:00pm PT...

"OT, Ted Stevens was just on C-Span 2 crying about his bridge to nowhere, their trying to cut funding for it
He says he's going to resign if he doesn't get the money"

Promises, promises... :doze:

Judge ye not lest ye be judged!

Ann Coulter is entitled to express her opinion in any way she see fit. And I for one like the way she expresses it!

One who spews so much hate, can only create more hatred. Her life , her views, her lies, her words, serve no purpose to anyone who is Christian, and or American.

Yes, Ann Coulter has the "right" to express herself, but we have the right to respond to her hateful ideas and mode of expression as we see fit.

Ann nuts? There are a ton of conservative talking heads that do as much and more harm than she does. I am a capitalist, not Republican or Conservative. Hafta vote Republican, tho' I hold my nose while doing it.

Ann Coulter is hot and her sarcasm is funny. You can complain about her polemics and call it extreme but her fundamental ideas are sound. Hers is the most read opinion on yahoo, the polemics added spice not to be taken literally. Quit being a whiner and loosen up.

Both conservatives and Liberals should start listening to each other, think carefully about what was said , and then, make positive suggestions on how to get things done with respect for each others opinions.

Hate bashing leads to more hate.
Only compromise and compassion lead to worthwhile accomplishment

Both conservatives and Liberals should start listening to each other, think carefully about what was said , and then, make positive suggestions on how to get things done with respect for each others opinions.

Hate bashing leads to more hate.
Only compromise and compassion lead to worthwhile accomplishment

Please follow link on above POST #135...hilarious!

If that's the best you can do to slime Ann Coulter, that's pretty bad. It's so typical of the left to take a few comments out of context and blow them out of proportiion. Even the ones you took out of context don't even sound that bad. You lefties need someone that can go toe to toe with Ann, instead of ambushing her. Most of Ann's stuff is tongue in cheek, I guess y'all just don't get it.

If that's the best you can do to slime Ann Coulter, that's pretty bad. It's so typical of the left to take a few comments out of context and blow them out of proportiion. Even the ones you took out of context don't even sound that bad. You lefties need someone that can go toe to toe with Ann, instead of ambushing her. Most of Ann's stuff is tongue in cheek, I guess y'all just don't get it.

Look, I have no political opinion about this lady. I do think calling a "war and going well" in the same sentence is an oxymoron and I wish we were talking about how well reconstruction is going right now in Iraq.

However, when my teen niece overheard Miss. Couther comparing the current deaths in the Iraqi conflict with other wars and her saying "sure there will be deaths" she was so upset and still is. My niece lost her father in Iraq and after all of his heroic efforts, which we have instilled in her, it only took a moment for those to come crashing down. Miss Couter has poisened the mind without warning of a child who is old enough to understand what was said but to young to know the reasons behind saying them.

"Taken out of context" is so "dog ate my homework," John Z.

And most of what Couter says is dead serious. Even if she intends some of it to be funny, it isn't.

I think liberals hate Ann simply because she's not afraid to turn around and use words liberal's understand (fuck you, ass hole, stupid, bigot, etc.) to communicate a fuller world view outside of how liberals thing (or can think).

But shit (wink), I might be wrong. Maybe liberal vocabulary is bigger than 4-6 letter words. I heard Edwards use 8-10 letter words with clarity during the election. Of course, the next day, after people digested what he'd tried to say, he confused everybody by using new 10-12 letter words that did not fit the context of the previous day...hum.

It is a little scary that anyone here should say that this highly educated woman is wrong to express her opinion. She is clear in her beliefs and doesn't wander all over the map to try to please some remote group. This is common sense and very correct thinking - reference the recent comments from the "down under goverment" about living within the rules of society. If you think conservative is a bad word - don't ever complain about soaring taxes, endless social programs for the lazy, large companies that can do whatever they wish -Fact: the conservatives will make life better - no one is left that (even then) remembers when the Democrats represented the "working man" - you know, how the Kennedy's don't know the price of anything, Kerry is an unknown in Massachusetts for all he has done (not), never mind the rest of the country, please go back to Massachusetts and never return - except if we need condiments. Wake up people - the idea that all is fair and level never came from your millionaire democrats - Smaller goverment and more conservative policy - there's your answer. I do not need to understand your bizarre beliefs - have them - somewhere else. Try Iran/Iraq - I hear it's nice this time of year. Any conservative group that denounces this woman needs to change the name of their organization, move to a "blue" state and start digging for your own oil.

Ann Coulter is one of the few 'real women' on the political scene. She says what she means and can back it up.

America need more 'real women', like Ann Coulter!

America needs more "real women" like Ann Coulter?

I'm not sure Coulter qualifies as a woman. Heck, I'm not sure Coulter qualifies as a human being.

Oh, and Ann Coulter is highly educated? Hard to believe, considering she can't even support the crap that issues from the cesspool she calls a mouth. She must have either bought or screwed her way to her degrees, because I can't fathom how she got them otherwise.

Oh, and Thom? All those things you listed as being the fault of liberals are things that the current conservative administration is doing. Soaring taxes? Hello, look at how the middle class is being taxed to death to make way for tax cuts for the ultrarich. Endless social programs for the lazy? Let's see...look at corporate welfare. Large companies that can do whatever they wish? Duh, look at how Bush and his cronies are removing any and all restrictions on large companies! Now a corporation can screw the little man over and the little man has no recourse!

Conservatives will make life better? Yeah, for a privileged few!

The rest of your post is typical incoherent ultra-right ranting.

America needs more "real women" like Ann Coulter?

I'm not sure Coulter qualifies as a woman. Heck, I'm not sure Coulter qualifies as a human being.

Oh, and Ann Coulter is highly educated? Hard to believe, considering she can't even support the crap that issues from the cesspool she calls a mouth. She must have either bought or screwed her way to her degrees, because I can't fathom how she got them otherwise.

Oh, and Thom? All those things you listed as being the fault of liberals are things that the current conservative administration is doing. Soaring taxes? Hello, look at how the middle class is being taxed to death to make way for tax cuts for the ultrarich. Endless social programs for the lazy? Let's see...look at corporate welfare. Large companies that can do whatever they wish? Duh, look at how Bush and his cronies are removing any and all restrictions on large companies! Now a corporation can screw the little man over and the little man has no recourse!

Conservatives will make life better? Yeah, for a privileged few!

The rest of your post is typical incoherent ultra-right ranting.

America needs more "real women" like Ann Coulter?

I'm not sure Coulter qualifies as a woman. Heck, I'm not sure Coulter qualifies as a human being.

Oh, and Ann Coulter is highly educated? Hard to believe, considering she can't even support the crap that issues from the cesspool she calls a mouth. She must have either bought or screwed her way to her degrees, because I can't fathom how she got them otherwise.

Oh, and Thom? All those things you listed as being the fault of liberals are things that the current conservative administration is doing. Soaring taxes? Hello, look at how the middle class is being taxed to death to make way for tax cuts for the ultrarich. Endless social programs for the lazy? Let's see...look at corporate welfare. Large companies that can do whatever they wish? Duh, look at how Bush and his cronies are removing any and all restrictions on large companies! Now a corporation can screw the little man over and the little man has no recourse!

Conservatives will make life better? Yeah, for a privileged few!

The rest of your post is typical incoherent ultra-right ranting.

America needs more "real women" like Ann Coulter?

I'm not sure Coulter qualifies as a woman. Heck, I'm not sure Coulter qualifies as a human being.

Oh, and Ann Coulter is highly educated? Hard to believe, considering she can't even support the crap that issues from the cesspool she calls a mouth. She must have either bought or screwed her way to her degrees, because I can't fathom how she got them otherwise.

Oh, and Thom? All those things you listed as being the fault of liberals are things that the current conservative administration is doing. Soaring taxes? Hello, look at how the middle class is being taxed to death to make way for tax cuts for the ultrarich. Endless social programs for the lazy? Let's see...look at corporate welfare. Large companies that can do whatever they wish? Duh, look at how Bush and his cronies are removing any and all restrictions on large companies! Now a corporation can screw the little man over and the little man has no recourse!

Conservatives will make life better? Yeah, for a privileged few!

The rest of your post is typical incoherent ultra-right ranting.

conservatives are a dime a dozen. full of selfish and do as i say not as i do bullshit!.in another words .ive got mine jack. go fuck yourself. ann coulter belongs in a mental hospital!. when bush is done destroying the middle class we will rise again and elect hillary clinton president. and undo all the disasters that bush has imposed on the level headed americans.that were folled by his holy bullshit. i bet that fucker still drinks

For one, I haven't listened to one single broadcast
with this loathsome creature, for over 3 years now.
Her or Hannity. Life has been so much better without
the soul poison they pumpout.

Do your selves a hugh favor, and stop listening to
these people.

From what I read here, their BS is just the same old
same old. Their rap never changes, hate, hate, hate,
blame liberals for all of their own corruption, and then
some more hate to top it off.
poor excuses for americans, thats for sure.

MUCH TO DO ABOUT NOTHING...IT WAS A TONGUE AND CHEEK COMMENT!!

WE NEED TO GROW UP PEOPLE!

I love the defense "their words were taken out of context". There is no appropriate or proper context for calling some one a "raghead" on for observing that "saying Merry Christmas is like saying Fuck you". The only thing you can do is consider the source and feel sorry for her and the fools who lay down good money to see her speak.

Why is it that most conservatives would pay to hear Ann espouse hate at a fundraiser, but don't want to pay taxes.

are you now or have you ever been a member of the commmunist party?

are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?

I see no evidence in the article that she claimed to be a member of the Redeemer PCA. The article reports of her attending the church.

So she's not a member. Big deal. Lots of people attend churches without being members.

I also oneself something would want to find out on this theme. Very attentively I will read every post.

As someone who isn't "conservative" I just hope you can do something about not only Ann Coulter, but intolerant and mean-spirited hate-groups like Kfir Alfia's Protest Warrior. Not only does that give conservatives a bad name, it gives Israel and Zionism a bad name. No, I'm not being anti-Semitic, but if Kfir and David Horowitz keep trying to stir hatred against the political left the way they do it could quite dangerously backfire on their cause, and the Jews whether they support such tripe or not...

nice

Ann Coulter is a sick mama!! She always seems to be saying things that make no sense. There is no way she is a conservative. She doesn't know what she's talking about and she's just a sick, evil person.

Ann Coulter is a sick mama!! She always seems to be saying things that make no sense. There is no way she is a conservative. She doesn't know what she's talking about and she's just a sick, evil person.

Ann Coulter is a sick mama!! She always seems to be saying things that make no sense. There is no way she is a conservative. She doesn't know what she's talking about and she's just a sick, evil person.

I think Ann had a sex change. Possibly to avoid a draft. You ever seen her adams apple. NO WOMAN has that!! and that could possibly explain her frutration with PEOPLE!! She has worked harder to divide the country than the terrorist have..

Everytime Ann opens her mouth, a bit more of conservitative jism drips out and down her chin. Show your committment, Ann, and swallow like a cum sponge should.

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Coulter needs a 12" dong up her arse.

I am scared and worried such a woman exists on earth!

How come a woman like that does exist?

Her parents finished her with pee or what? no more sperm?!

I have heard that Ann is so thin and gaunt due to the fact she is suffering from AIDS. Perhaps that's why she seems to be losing her mind too.

Ann Coulter is a sorry excuse for a conservative. She makes millions off of hate speech. She's so Hitleresque it's a shame.

Tom Cardona
Santa Monica, Ca.

Ann Coulter definition: An oral slut

I am a concerned citizen of Skylar Durden's Ivy Nation against Ann Coulter's Adam's Apple.