Okay. This one took a minute for me to 'get'. The voice-over at the beginning seemed to be coming from Norm Coleman's mouth --- it completely obscured the 'hypocrite' point for me.

I guess I have to learn to watch the videos and listen more closely. I'm just way too ADD for this multi-tasking stuff.

I just hope the Minnesota population is paying closer attention to this than I am. I've got my beefs with Franken (not tough enough on election fraud) but I still think he'd be a great senator.

Also Coleman was elected as a Dem to be Mayor of St. Paul
with the massive help of St. Pauls organized labor, after he got in, he took a shit on them and switched to Republican
A big fat turn-coat/hypocrite is what he is

Al Franken better get on the bandwagon to disband e-vote machines, if he wants to win.

Key senator calls for investigating e-vote machines in Florida...

http://www.rawstory.com/...el%3Dkrwashington_nation

Very sorry to comment O.T. but...
I was just reading this article about how the chairman of the Church Committee in the 70s thinks its time to investigate the bush administration about abuse of power:

"The chief counsel to the committee that investigated abuses of power by President Richard Nixon in the 1970s tells RAW STORY he’d like to see a similar inquiry into clandestine intelligence operations under President George W. Bush..."

But listen to what some who disagree with him had to say...this BLEW my mind:

"...Rep. Pete Hoekstra, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, argues that more oversight could complicate the intelligence community’s broader activities and undermine existing oversight..."

REALLY! "Undermine existing oversight". WHAT existing oversight???

Then there's this:
"...Loch Johnson...Senator Church’s staff representative on the panel, says there isn’t strong enough public outcry to justify such a vigorous investigation...

[Johnson said:] “...people were very concerned that it had gotten out of control. We were receiving lots of mail on the subject...

“The investigations...were stimulated by an issue of huge concern to the American people, and we just don't have that right now,”..."

Jesus! What PLANET is this man ON?????

Johnson is "..presently a Regents Professor of Political Science at the University of Georgia..".

Am I alone in thinking that it might be a good idea to SEND THESE GENTLEMEN SOME MAIL?
link to article

Rep. Hoekstra contact info:
http://hoekstra.house.gov/Contact/

Contact: Loch Johnson, 706/542-6705, johnson@uga.edu

in defense of those against investigating this administration i'm not really sure what could be discovered that is worse than what we already know. surely there would be greater quantity but, other than maybe dropping a nuclear bomb, what could be worse than starting an illegal war of choice based on lies which leads to the death, injury and displacement of more than a million people? and while not nuclear, use of WMD in fallujah comes close.

-you say torture is worse? we got it covered.

-suspension of basic fundamental rights? covered.

-murdering a reporter to send a message at start of war? ditto.

-threatening the lives of 6 billion people by ignoring science so that 1 company can rape the planet for a few extra years? check.

-cutting taxes for the rich while cutting housing benefits for the poor and elderly already trying to survive on less than $18,000 including social security. been there done that.

-stealing (and the negligence is so great that it was stealing) $12 billion by sending butt loads of cash to Iraq just before the handover of power which then goes missing. let's see, yep, covered.

-while at war, with 7 of 10 americans struggling to have ends meet month to month, giving a handful of companies who are amidst the greatest quarterly and yearly profit run in the history of the world, ginormous tax breaks as well as forgiving billions of dollars they already owed the treasury - thus shifting the enormous tax burden to plain old americans. don't see it, don't see it, yep, there it is - got it covered.

-ending democracy as we know it including TWICE stealing the oval office. yep.

-how about twice stealing the oval office and at the same time compromising the integrity of maybe the most hallowed institution in the history of the country? yawn.

you get the point. unless there is some sexual deviance to be unmasked, its really just a waste of time, no?

#6,
Good point.

Personally, I more than agree with you. We are long past due for impeachment, criminal charges, removal from office & long incarceration. If one more investigation, or one more voice calling for one, limps us along a little further toward those ends, Im for it.
(sorry but my apostrophe is besng weird again)

Joan and Hotpotatomash:

I don't know what it would take for these investigations to happen. My head hurts.

Is it that people are too comfortable? This 'great economy' that Bush is so proud of looks like it might take a downturn --- one example:

HSBC to Boost Loan-Loss Provisions on Bad Mortgages (Update8)

Rising interest rates and falling house prices have made it harder for many Americans to repay their mortgages, leading to higher loan losses at HSBC and rivals including New Century Financial Corp. The U.S. Federal Reserve raised its benchmark rate to 5.25 percent last year from 1 percent in 2004.

New Century, HSBC's largest competitor for so-called sub-prime mortgages, said yesterday it expects a fourth-quarter loss in part because of a jump in defaults on new loans.

When people start losing their houses and jobs, will that shake people up a little? I'm tired of being brushed off like Chicken Little --- maybe these chunks of rock that keep hitting me on the head really are warnings of the coming meteor headed for the US.

Sigh. I don't know what it will take to bring the Bushites to justice. I just hope it will be before they destroy the world.

Joan:

For some similarly spaced out and incognizable comments on holding Bush responsible for anything. Listen to todays Diane Rhem show. I'm not sure I understood what any of the three said, and I've heard it three times.

At the very end of the show, Diane asks what, to me, is almost a yes or no Question. She asks her three pundits, (learned persons), that in contrast or comparison to impeachment of Bill Clinton, if the trial of Libby turns out to expose Cheney and even Bush himself of complicity, as many think it will, what do you think the outcome will be.

Good for Diane for asking the question of the moment! This is not the first time either. I hate the guests she is usually is allowed to have.

I don't care how confident Coleman looks, I think Al Franken is the last person he wants to run against. I'm as angry as anybody about Franken's dismissal of the voting machine menace, but he's still a very funny guy. I'd love him to come here and run against Orrin Hatch. Just toss that one around in your head!

Floridiot #2

He should get along well with Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller.