Yeah, we realize that new evidence showing Bush is a liar is not really a “News Flash” to anyone who hasn’t been living in a cave (or listening to Rush, Sean and O’Reilly) for the past five years.
But this just in from Murray Waas of National Journal (who deserves a Pulitzer, in our opinion, for his tremendous investigative reporting in recent months!)…
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Bush personally read the one-page summary in Tenet’s presence during the morning intelligence briefing, and the two spoke about it at some length.
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Cheney received virtually the same intelligence information, according to the same records and interviews. The president’s summaries have been shared with the vice president as a matter of course during the Bush presidency.
And what did that one-page summary, which even George W. Bush could read, say? That the “aluminum tubes” he and Cheney (and Rice and others) touted as proof of Saddam’s nuclear program were not actually to be used in a nuclear program. Oh, and also that Saddam would use WMD, and/or share them with terrorists, only if attacked first by the United States.
In other words, add this to the file of things they knew and later claimed to not know. Like terrorists interested in flying planes into buildings, and the possibility that the levees might be breached in New Orleans.
Read Waas’ excellent and brilliantly documented report. In our opinion, it’s the most damning and direct evidence to date that Bush out-and-out lied this country into war.
No doubt the ‘publicans will say the document is forged. BTW, I personally never believed Bush from the start.
Need to impeach him!
Garrison Keillor wrote a column, back in 2005, in which he said: "His (Bush’s) career was based on creating low expectations and then meeting them, but Katrina was a blast of reality… The famous headline said, ‘Bush: One Of The Worst Disasters To Hit The U.S.’, and many people took that literally."
The numbers of people who take that literally are growing daily.
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Perhaps they were right to be concerned about those aluminium cylinders, since this administration is sure going down the tubes now.
A little childhood humor: "When God was handing out tubes, Dubya thought he said "boobs", and said, "Make me a big one!"
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The tape just proves to me that clueless Bush was bunkered down in Crawford (probably practicing on his guitar), Cheney was out hunting and fishing and Condi Rice was shopping for shoes in New York.
I initially blamed Browie for the mess, but after viewing the tape and analyzing what he did last year directing relief efforts during four hurricanes here in Florida, the ex-FEMA chief comes out smelling like a rose. Brown tried his damnest to alert the administration, but, as usual, the arrogant plutocrats had other priorities.
I don’t know how much worse it can get for the Chimp before he throws in the towel.
He’s not gonna "throw in the towel".. no, he’s gonna drive us to our knees, then wiggle his little chimpy-dick in our faces and laugh.
Pugs will swallow, Dems will suckle, and progressives will bite it off. He might want to save us for last..
Savantster, your metaphor adds filth to the filthy. Cut it out.
The Congressional Republicans who are in charge and who refuse to kick Bush out of office must look at the ever growing pile of evidence of Bush’s guilt and wonder why they ever joined the Bush team.
Every single Republican in a national office must be removed to save America.
Which lie is this? I’m losing track. Is this the WMD lie, the Katrina lie, or the tubes lie? Or one of the other lies?
We can all thank the MSM for not pointing out the lies. Thank you. We have to rely on Jon Stewart’s Daily Show news, sadly.
Savanster: Do you realize what a huge part in all of this, the MSM has been playing? There was, is, and always will be nuts and criminals like Bush, but it’s the MSM that gives him the power to do it all without any light shone upon it.
Savanster:
The WaPo, when they weren’t "controlled", exposed a corrupt/criminal administration, the Nixon administration.
Read what the WaPo has become:
WaPo/NYTimes/USAToday
Can you say "corporate-controlled mainstream media"???
Big Dan, #9, grim chuckle. Really! I can see the poor befuddled jurors at The Hague, sending to the judge for clarification every hour.
MarkH – Every single Republican and a lot of Democrats too. Please don’t just view this a Republican/Democrat issue, it’s a corruption issue of many. Most Democrats have proven to be useless and on the corruption payroll too. It’s not just at the Congressional level either, we need to clean a LOT of houses out at state and local levels too. With the internet now, we can be smarter when we go to the polls and actually KNOW who we’re voting for, not just what letter follows their name. I think we’ve all learned our lesson.?.
Course we’re back to the honest election issue, which pretty much makes the above paragraph impossible and OBE. It all hinges on that, which is why I think Brad has worked so hard on the issue and helped unfold so much for people to see, hear and read about. NOTHING will change until we get an honest election! I finally figured it out – that’s why Bush has that damn smurk. It’s a damn Diebold smurk.
It was great to see the local news this morning on the NBC affiliate showing the tape of the Katrina meeting.
I’m hoping they will also pick up on this story. – The ball is strarting to roll!
OT.
Last week I signed the email petition against Diebold found here.
Today I received this:
"Your message
To: Senator Battin, Jim
Subject: Dieblold Vote Machines
Sent: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:58:56 -0800
was deleted without being read on Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:30:53 -0800"
Thanks Jim for working for your constituents!!!
Every one of these republidicks are afraid of getting rid of these Diebold machines because they know full well that they’ll lose in November. Let’s keep the heat on ’em. I, for one, don’t want to see America taking to the streets for another stolen election.
Hey people you have until St Patty’s Day (March 17, 2006) to voice an opinion against Federal Delisting of the brown bear based on Bushit LIES! If you go to the US Fish and Game website they will tell you it’s OK to take the brown bear off the list because a certain # of bears has been reached. What they won’t tell you is the following in (short version):
The Yellowstone population of bears is ISOLATED and suffering from INBREEDING. Bushit experts plan on dropping a male bear in their population every now and then to create "genetic variation." Why -because they like the idea of playing "God" and the government wants to develope the land that needs to be used for a wild lands corridor connecting these bears to roam to other barely holding on remaining populations in the lower 48 states. Along this line of thinking, hopefully the Bushit expert Fcknuts wouldn’t accidently drop a gay bear in their population.
Also, a law reversed 3 years ago allows off road vehicles in the Public Wild lands and Park areas is a new problem severely destroying Bear’s and other animal’s habitats! The Great Grizzly is the barametor for all animals in the wild lands. When it is healthy all animals are healthy too.
The bear’s food sources are changing or being lost completely due to the introduction of species not indigenous to the area.
Lake trout introduced are preying on the cuthroat trout and wiping them out. Unlike cutthroats which spawn in the river. Lake trout spawn in deep lake water.
Bears like to eat white bark pine however foreign beatles introduced and white bark pine rust are destroying these pine trees and they won’t even be around in 50 years. Already entire stands of the tree are entirely destroyed.
The effects of global warming and climate change effects our forests the most. Scientists can’t even predict how the destruction will negatively effect the forests. Except when there is no food, a mother bear will surely get desperate to find food for her babies and come down out of the forest.
Lastly, when the Federal monitoring of bears it put upon the 4 states to do it but they need mo money for human services, what spending do you think will get cut first? Wyoming plans to start hunting the bear immediately and male bears which are not into inbreeding (unlike our administration) will get killed trying to escape.
Bear-human interaction equal the bears fatality. 51 in 2004, 35 in 2005. The female has the hard time reproducing only behind the Musk Ox. If a certain # of birthing females are lost so could the bear! And Canada needs to stop clear cutting timber along the border and help us make a wild lands corridor.
The brown bear which was almost extinct when placed on the Federal ESP will be facing more hardships now than when originally receiving protection. Voice your opinion and please say NO TO DELISTING! Thank you!
Savantster #6
Yea, I didn’t care for your nasty analogy (not metaphor) either.
It was over the top.
I see Bush & Co. whipped out a tape made after Katrina hit–it featured the governor saying she did not hear of any levees being breeched yet—trying to prove Bush didn’t lie.
I could almost live with Bush’s lies, stupidity & incompetance—if only he weren’t a murderer too.
Charlene, thanks for your support, but, uh, check your thesaurus.
I, as well, found the analogy was a bit repulsive.
Bush’s approval rating is sinking with the uncovering of each lie and screw-up.
The main concern is getting these voting machines out of play. They’re responsible for this incompenent nincompoop being in office, to begin with!
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Those who remember know that I posted, before Katrina hit, the facts about how the white house shot down the Army Corp. of Engineers requests to fix the levees.
A conservative x-congressman was the civilian, titular head of the corps (the real head is The Rummy, as Sec. of War … er I mean defense) and Bush fired him because he made too much noise about the bad condition of the levees.
They wanted 20 or 30 million to beef up the levees a couple of years before Katrina but were shot down by the republican white house and the republican ruled congress. They got about 5-7 million and the head got fired.
And we are still looking for thousands of lost and missing Katrina child victims, and thousands more adult missing Katrina victims.
As billions upon billions of dollars are wasted in Iraq making the "Axis of Evil" greater and more dangerous, according to conservative George Will (link here).
And increasing the legions of terrorists by helping their recruiters, while our own recruiters languish because of the lies bu$hit tells to "catapult the propaganda".
When it comes to lying, Tricky Dick Nixon looses to The Dick, The Bush, The Condi, The Rummy, and The Gonzo.
Even the republican congress chairs can outlie Tricky Dick Nixon.
He has been cloned and greatly "improved" and the "Axis of Evil" is more popular than America, thanks to these criminal minds.
A bit o.t. but important, from truthout…I’m gonna post the whole thing because it’s quite brief:
Editor’s Note: Ray McGovern and 15 others took action today in the halls of Congress. The 16 donned orange jumpsuits similar to those worn by detainees at Guantánamo Bay. They wore gags over their mouths decorated with one word – torture. Not another word needed to be said as they walked the halls of Congress. McGovern, a 27-year veteran of the CIA, also returned his Intelligence Commendation Award medallion which was given to him for "especially commendable service." He delivered the medal to Congressman Pete Hoekstra along with the letter below. –smg/TO
I Do Not Wish to Be Associated With Torture
By Ray McGovern
t r u t h o u t Letter
Thursday 02 March 2006
Hon. Pete Hoekstra, Chair
House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
Washington, DC
Dear Congressman Hoekstra:
As a matter of conscience, I am returning the Intelligence Commendation Award medallion given me for "especially commendable service" during my 27-year career in CIA. The issue is torture, which inhabits the same category as rape and slavery – intrinsically evil. I do not wish to be associated, however remotely, with an agency engaged in torture.
Reports in recent years that CIA personnel were torturing detainees were highly disturbing. Confirmation of a sort came last fall, when CIA Director Porter Goss and Dick Cheney – dubbed by the Washington Post "Vice President for Torture" – descended on Sen. John McCain to demand that the CIA be exempted from his amendment’s ban on torture. Subsequent reports implicated agency personnel in several cases of prisoner abuse in Iraq, including a few in which detainees died during interrogation.
The obeisance of CIA directors George Tenet and Porter Goss in heeding illegal White House directives has done irreparable harm to the CIA and the country – not to mention those tortured and killed. That you, as Chair of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, show more deference to the White House than dedication to your oversight responsibilities under the Constitution is another profound disappointment. How can you and your counterpart, Sen. Pat Roberts, turn a blind eye to torture – letting some people get away, literally, with murder – and square that with your conscience?
If German officials who were ordered to do such things in the 1930s had spoken out early and loudly enough, the German people might have been alerted to the atrocities being perpetrated in their name and tried harder to stop them. When my grandchildren ask, "What did you do, Grandpa, to stop the torture," I want to be able to tell them that I tried to honor my oath, taken both as an Army officer and an intelligence officer, to defend the Constitution of the United States – and that I not only spoke out strongly against the torture, but also sought a symbolic way to dissociate myself from it.
We Americans have become accustomed to letting our institutions do our sinning for us. I abhor the corruption of the CIA in the past several years, believe it to be beyond repair, and do not want my name on any medallion associated with it. Please destroy this one.
Yours truly,
Ray McGovern
Ray McGovern works for Tell the Word, the publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in Washington, DC. He was an analyst at the CIA for 27 years, and is on the Steering Group of VIPS.
Agent 99 #18
Well, if you insist–
You mean I should check my dictionary (not thesaurus).
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No.. she meant thesaurus.. Analogy and Metaphore are synonyms..
And I appologize if it offended. It’s just how I see the current spectrum.. Repuglicans are being very very nice to Shrubby, Dems keep pandering to the Pugs for no good reason, and only the Progressives seem to give a shit about this country and Americans.. they are the only ones that seem to be fighting.
Though the evil in our government may extend to Democrats as well as Republicans it is those who are in charge who must bear the first blows of responsibility. The Republicans control the entire government and no Democrat could expect an allegation against Bush would ever be taken up by Republicans. There will never be an impeachment as long as the Congressional Republicans feel it’s in their interest to protect Bush and the appearance of propriety in order to get re-elected. The politicization of our national security and the corruption which has led to selling off our nation start with those in charge today — Republicans.
Maybe when the Democrats take charge we will see the same thing happen. Somehow I doubt it, but an ever vigilant public (not just press) should watch, listen and resist if necessary.
MarkH, there is a bigger problem than "those in power".. That is, even the Dems, with some corruption going on, investigate themSELVES a LOT more than Pugs investigate -anything-.
There were Dems that agreed to start Impeachment of Clinton, after $60 million pissed away looking for "crimes", they came up with "wasn’t completely honest about a hummer from an intern". With spending NOTHING, we KNOW Shrubby lied to Congress and the American pubilc. We KNOW he’s still lying about all kinds of things. We KNOW he’s violating the law on several fronts.. we KNOW he’s aproving of torture.. we KNOW he’s actively circumventing Congress. Hmm.. Impeach for a hummer (with Dem support) but not for continual and massive criminal behavior.
There is a fundamental difference in the thought processes for Dems and Pugs. Pugs seem to be literally clinically narcissistic. They honestly believe they are above the law as is exemplified almost every time they open their mouths (the phrase ‘criminalizeing politics’ is especially telling).
The second REAL problem is, we have REPUBLICANS all over the country REGISTERING AS DEMOCRATS. One of the most important lessons I’m tring to teach my daughter is, watch what people say and what they do… when there is a conflict, ignore what they say as lies and act on their actions. That is, if I’m kicking you in the face and telling you I’m trying to help you, I’m probably lying.. don’t you think? So, ANY Dem that votes for legislation that HURTS CITIZENS is no Dem, no matter what they call themselves. I can call myself a zebra all I want, doesn’t make it true.
Until we, as a nation, get our collective heads out of our asses and start looking at PEOPLE, and NOT "parties", we’re screwed. Yet, that’s the "easy" way to look at elections. "Oh, I can vote Dem or Pug.. I’ll go Dem (or Pug) and not bother knowing ANYTHING about who I’m voting for.. that way, when I read in the news that the Dem (or Pug) was ‘bad’, I can just vote the other way next time".. Welcome to our fast-food nation, and our fast-food political debating.
Our culture doesn’t value "freedom" and "knowledge", it values "name brands" and "convienence". We’re a fast-food and disposable nation who figures we only have value when we’re rubbing our posessions in other people’s faces. Corporate America encourages that, and are killing us as a functioning nation while thy do it.. and they don’t care, there are 6 billion other people on the planet for them to exploit when they’re done. REAL DEMS would be putting a STOP to that abuse of Americans, we don’t have many REAL Dems in office these days.
Savantster #23
I see you want to push this subject.
You made the mistake of looking these 2 words up in a thesaurus, which is intended to give you similar words with various SHADES of meaning, so that you can pick the one that best fits what you want to say.
Well, analogy & metaphor have similar, but different meanings.
You need to look these two words up in a dictionary, which has examples, perhaps, to explain the difference between the two.
You go boy.
Besides, I remember this because it was a question on the ACT test I took in high school long ago.
metaphor
n : a figure of speech in which an expression is used to refer to something that it does not literally denote in order to suggest a similarity
a·nal·o·gy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-nl-j)
n. pl. a·nal·o·gies
1. Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar.
n 1: an inference that if things agree in some respects they probably agree in others 2: drawing a comparison in order to show a similarity in some respect; "the operation of a computer presents and interesting analogy to the working of the brain"; "the models show by analogy how matter is built up"
Guess being synomyms isn’t what Agent99 meant, this is.. though, they are kind of close.. I suppose if you wanted to be very anal then it’s worth splitting the hair over analogy and metaphor. Given I was suggesting what Shrubby was doing to us is like the act(s) I described, metaphor is more appropriate. I think the distinction is more that I didn’t say "this is like that", which is used in the analogy example.. *shrug*
And that came from a dictionary, not a thesaurus.. so I guess you were both right and wrong.. and I still appologize for offending, though I stand behind my metaphor 😛
Savantster,
Read what you have copied.
A metaphor is a "figure of speech" in which an "expression" is used.
That means it’s a word or a phrase.
For example "A mighty fortress is our God".
"Mighty fortress" is the metaphor. It’s a phrase.
An analogy can be very long, while a metaphor cannot.
For example, you compared Bush’s flagrant bad behavior to a certain sex act & then you compared what you believe would be the various responses of different groups to that act.
That’s an analogy.
The difference is very clearcut to a person that understands, such as you now do.
The fact is, you keep bringing this up & can’t let it go.
All I did was mention the error in passing & respond to your comments to me.
Therefore—you also misused the word "anal".
"Anal retentive" means to continue to hold on to a thing or an issue beyond it’s productive life.
That’s what you’re doing.
Take the correction like a man & move on.
Oh come on, guys! Make nice and move on, please! If you really want to parse something, let’s go back to "That depends on what your definition of ‘is’ is." In a metaphorical sense, this thread has degenerated into an all too painful analogy for what’s become of the once-righteous left. Tell me, what do you think: How many documented lies should a pResident be allowed per week?
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