READER COMMENTS ON
"AUDIO: Ring Of Fire Discussion On RFK Jr.'s 'Live Earth' Speech"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 7/17/2007 @ 3:23 pm PT...
LOL, now if you move my posts I'd be on topic
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Alan Breslauer
said on 7/17/2007 @ 3:34 pm PT...
Floridiot, have you been talking about this? j/k. I was gonna link to some of your comments but figured it would probably be easier/better to start a fresh conversation. Lead the way...
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Floridiot
said on 7/17/2007 @ 3:57 pm PT...
heh Alan, after running that argument on natural vs artificial persons around in my head all day...I'm spent.
I sure wouldn't want to be the one to argue that in front of the SCOTUS.
It seems to be such a circular argument IMO
But I know one thing for sure, whatever angle the peoples lawyer uses for his/her arguments when the time comes, it would be the most honest one.
The artificial (corporate) lawyer would have to lie through his teeth.
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Dan
said on 7/17/2007 @ 4:29 pm PT...
Great info here on fighting corporations:
http://www.celdf.org/
They run a law seminar out of a local community college which gives background on the history of treating corporations as citizens and also train local governments how to fight these corporate interests:
http://www.celdf.org/Hom...ol/tabid/60/Default.aspx
I think the same tools can be used in local governments fight to operate elections in fashions which they see fit
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Agent 99
said on 7/17/2007 @ 5:02 pm PT...
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Deepthroat
said on 7/17/2007 @ 5:24 pm PT...
"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already challenge our government, and bid defiance to the laws of our country."
Thomas Jefferson
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Agent 99
said on 7/17/2007 @ 6:22 pm PT...
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 7/17/2007 @ 6:49 pm PT...
The Senators will be up all night, like a blogathon ... trying to get the GOP to put their votes where their mouths are.
They used to sound out the mantra "just let us have an up or down floor vote" when they did not have committee majority. They threatened to crush and destroy the filibuster.
Now they filibuster trying to set a record. At least 43 already this year.
Reid is going to make them suffa ...
C'mon neoCons, lets have a floor vote on ending the Iraq war and returning to sanity.
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Dredd
said on 7/17/2007 @ 6:55 pm PT...
I listened to Cindy Sheehan on Hardball tonight.
Clueless about how the congress works.
If she won an election against Pelosi, she said she would have congress end the war by cutting off funding.
When asked how she would get such a bill passed, she said it would not be a bill, she would just do it.
Clueless. She does not understand that laws come from votes. Clueless! And this is the anti-war best?
BTW, how is the qui tam going?
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/17/2007 @ 7:01 pm PT...
Dredd
She's not clueless.
And how many times do I have to tell you to ask Papantonio's office about the qui tam suits? If you really care about them, as opposed to caring about dissing Bobby for taking issue with your dear Democrats, call and find out.
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Colleen
said on 7/17/2007 @ 7:24 pm PT...
I have RFK Jr's speech from Live Earth on my wall and he DID NOT call Beck, Stossel, Limbaugh or Hannity "traitors." He used the word traitor to describe "corporate toadies for companies like Exxon and Southern Company, ..." Can someone let Beck know that so he can say "Oops, my bad" and giggle?
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Dredd
said on 7/18/2007 @ 4:48 am PT...
Agent 99 #10
I watched her on Hardball yesterday. So do I believe you or my lying eyes?
She indicated that all she had to do was want it to happen, and that ending the war is "not about a bill".
She does not know that votes are what make law. Clueless!
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 7/18/2007 @ 4:52 am PT...
In the interest of not advocating secrecy, when will the exclusive information about the qui tam come out?
Or will some advocate secrecy only for themselves and not the rest of us? Isn't that a bit bushie?
The qui tam is not a public matter? Hogwash.