Coming close to a 9/11 breakthru???

http://oldranger-wortham...breakthrough-on-911.html

Writer of ABC’s 9/11 ‘Docudrama’ Is Avowed Conservative Activist

http://thinkprogress.org...h-conservative-activist/

Kevin Benderman Released From Ft. Lewis Military Corrections Facility

http://www.topia.net/kbisfree.html

An all-out assault on our privacy...

http://www.free-market.n...-liberty/new-census.html

Can't be OT on an OT, right? This is great! I want to get duhbaya over here to Prague and get him to go biking with me. There's a new set of roadway laws here, and the other day a young Czech fell off his bike and hurt himself. Turns out he caused an accident that resulted in the injury of a person (himself), and so he was arrested and fined 50,000 Czech crowns (the average monthly wage is 20,000). Duhbaya could easily afford the fine, of course, but he would probably become enamored of the audacity of the state and move his ranch over here - they can have each other, as far as I can tell...

We all must call for the arest and charging of the Plame leaker. Whose's with me? Hes a traitor!

Yeah, Outraged, let's get him (them)! I had a super security clearance once, and I shudder to think what would have happened had I leaked such sensitive info. And they shouldn't be allowed to nuke Iran because they don't have sufficient info about their nookyouler program, seeing as how Sweet Valerie had the goods, until they blew her cover!

{Ed Note: This guy was banned quite a while back. Sorry. I can't be watching 24/7. --99}

Isn't it more than ironic (sickening, really) that the neocon crew has glommed onto the word 'fascism' now? News flash to mr. cheney: 'fascism' has an actual, specific definition. It's incorrect to use the word as if it is simply synonymous with 'bad'. Who do you think you are, dick? george bush?

But what I really wanted to post was this Americablog story:
'GOP Congress blocked Clinton push for anti-terror legislation'
by John in DC - 9/04/2006

A link in that piece leads to:
'President wants Senate to hurry with new anti-terrorism laws'
-July 30, 1996

A bit from that one:
"...Hatch called Clinton's proposed study of...chemical markers in explosives that could help track terrorists..."a phony issue."...

...He also said he had some problems with the president's proposals to expand wiretapping..."

Really, orrin? What have you had to say AFTER 1996 about expanding wiretapping, I wonder?

'Patriot Act II Resurrected?'
-Aug, 21, 2003

"Congress may consider a bill that not only expands the government's wiretapping and investigative powers but also would link low-level drug dealing to terrorism...

The draft legislation --- titled the Vital Interdiction of Criminal Terrorist Organizations Act of 2003, or Victory Act...includes a raft of provisions increasing the government's ability to investigate, wiretap, prosecute and incarcerate money launderers, fugitives, "narco-terrorists" and nonviolent drug dealers. The bill also outlaws hawalas, the informal and documentless money transferring systems widely used in the Middle East, India and parts of Asia.

A June 27 draft of the bill [was] authored by Sen. Orrin Hatch..."

I think I hear that old GOP cheer again...
Hip! Hip! Hypocrisy!
link to Americablog piece

Wow, a troll already. That was fast!
Comment #5's upsidedown logic is stunning. And that should be "...egg on ITS face...", sweetie, not 'their'.

Oh my, we must be getting warm - the Ho Commander has been dispatched. What a Bizzaro spiel! Orwell would love this guy! It's truly asounding how these repugnitrons project all that is vile and putrid about themselves onto others. What was that lovely word, 99? Keep it up, Commander Ho!

Hey Joan - Not to split hairs, but "media" is, after all, plural. Of course our old friend the Ho Commander can't be consistent, singular verb, plural possessive, so you're right, as far as you go, but I cringe when I hear stuff like "the media is..." Just sayin'

Czaragorn,
Yeah, you're right, it's plural. Although I hear it used as a singular all the time...might it be one of those gray areas where usage dictates? I dunno.
But for consistency's sake in ho's sentence, I would've gone with 'its'. I mean, might as well be all-the-way wrong, eh?
But thanks for the correction, anyway!

Methinks the Ho doth protest too much

Hi Joan,
That's what I was trying to say, in my own peculiarly inarticulate way. But I shudder at that usage dictating thing - I mean, for God's sake, there are dictionaries that give nookuler as an alternative pronunciation of nuclear, or so I hear...

#5 hcocdr

Your just giving us a taste of the PNAC cyberwar on TRUTH to come.

I WISH I had your network's CIDR but I don't get to peruse bradblog's log files.

...and an "all-time" "all-star" troll, at that! Hey, after I posted the above about the ABC docudrama, ABC pulled it...it said on Raw Story...do you think they read my post???

http://thinkprogress.org.../09/04/path-blog-yanked/

Anymore, I bypass HCOCDR's posts, I don't even read them.

Hey Big Dan #16

Thanks man - I was wondering if my TV would make it through that one. The shoe only left a black skid mark - the brick however...

Raw Story now has an article up revealing the great strides we have made in the War on Terror over the last five years.

Mission Accomplished! (For Whom?)

Czaragorn #12....ARE YOU SERIOUS?! That's terrible!

I sometimes fantasize that if ever I were at one of those super-elite bushie townhall meetings & got to ask the chimpking a question, I'd say sweetly:
"Mr. President, why can't you pronounce nuclear?"

You know, I have a theory about that, actually. I think he now pronounces it incorrectly out of pure stubborn spite.
Years ago, my mom worked with a woman who mispronounced Rutgers (a school in NJ) as Rukters, and my mom corrected her. (Haha, my mom's like me, a pain-in-the-butt stickler about words). The woman did not take kindly to being corrected, & the next time she saw my mom, she kept repeating to herself in a little singsong "Rukters Rukters Rukters Rukters" over & over, trying to get a rise out of my mom.
I think that's about bush's mentality, too. Lord, the man's GOTTA know how it's pronounced by NOW!!!

Hi, friends: Sorry I messed with the thread by just deleting the rest of hcocdr's "comments" after his intitial screed, but I try to think of the dial-up people waiting for the page to load on the open threads. Brad banned the guy months ago for his relentless disinformation, etc.

czaragorn: The word was "antonymically". They speak antonymically. Whatever they say, you can be sure it's a lie and/or that it means the exact opposite of the words they use. i.e. Clean Air Act, PATRIOT Act, and now "Victory" Act.

big dan: Yep. I've been noticing that with the headway being made by the 9/11 Truth Movement, the anti-truth propaganda machine has leapt into action. They ARE paying attention to the polls, after all!

Thanks for giving Mike Malloy a space about his unjust firing. I find it odd that some of the web sites that Mike would plug every now and then didn’t even give him as much of a peep. No support or anything. It’s awful what they did to Mike, you would think the web sites that got plugged on his show every now and then would have at least gave him a little space for his story or his petition drive. Kind of like stabbing a friend in the back when he’s down in my opinion.

Interesting article by Captain May. remember If we know beforehand then its not a SURPRISE!

http://www.thepriceoflib...rty.org/06/09/04/may.htm

#21 Laura
It’s psychological war fare. By doing all these exercises right before the anniversary of 9/11, it will make the anniversary feel and look more like the day it happened. This administration and its followers are pure evil.

Laura #21

Capt May's article is interesting, but he makes one error. He states that the Iraq war plan was launched the day after 9/11. In fact it was four years prior!

99
I'm still here and should be packing think I might have and addiction to this issue. Maybe you can pretend I'm a shill and block me for 2 weeks. : (

Agent99 #19

Thanks for cleaning up the troll droppings once again!
I need to get you a bio-waste digester for all that you've cleaned up so you can begin to make fuel from it!

Sally

Packing is a monster drag, and, when you are desperate for some evidence of sense in your fellow Americans --- and very, very, very many of us are --- you're apt to keep coming back to where you've seen it! It's not an addiction; it's a fundamental need in the true human.

Still, if you HAVE TO pack, get it done, and come back as soon as you can. We want to hear from you, and want to help you find food for your vital energy --- truth, sense --- if we can.

Agent BB2!

Composting!!!!! Yes, thank you. I have faith in your powers, and that's exactly the ticket! Turn trash into fuel! Turn waste into nutrients... instead of letting it pile up into an Everest of crap weighing us down! Just a little attachment for the MTTBBB....

Agent99 #26

Perhaps this model would enough capacity and still fit in your yard.

You may need to add on though to fit the conversion unit.

Photo Credits: RCM Digesters

In fact, I've been listening to the Malloy interview of Web Tarpley again today, and it never fails to strike me, the timbre, pitch and intensity of the callers' voices on that show. They were like people saved from certain death. The pressure of speech, the whiffs of a desperation in the moment of resolution, the avidity for the sense being played out on the radio FOR REAL, FOR ONCE. Some say that Malloy was fired because of this interview, and because he had dared mention that Israel was doing wrong in Lebanon.

A lot of us have been screaming FASCISM! for years, and it only looks and feels more like it now than it did when we started. So, yep, very many people are starving for evidence of sense, of humans trying to bring out truth, defending democracy, acting like they give a damn about something more than their paychecks and maintaining their ignore-ance --- anything leading away from the slaughter being carried out in our name.

This is why you hear the right calling everything and everyone ELSE "fascist" now. It's that antonymic speech thing of theirs. It's the need to dupe and confuse as many people as possible. It's treason in progress.

Bluebear2

You are on the right track with the industrial size digesters, but... I think we need something at least the size of Area Fiftysomething, maybe of Nevada, to process it all with enough dispatch!

Agent 99
Yeh am addicted to democracy and free speech. Don't type or spell so well but talk, well the drivel never stops so I need democracy and free speech or will die.
Adious for now.

Agent99

LOL Perhaps 40 of these then! {Kazaart! --99}

Here’s a new song by Country Joe McDonald. Well - actually recorded in 2004.

It can be found for listening here - takes Real Player to listen

CAKEWALK TO BAGHDAD

Lyrics and music by Bruce Barthol © 2003

I remember back, before we whacked Iraq
I was watching the news, were we gonna attack?
A man named Richard Perle came on and talked

He said going to Baghdad would be a cakewalk
Cakewalk to Baghdad,

Cakewalk to Baghdad
It went real easy,
Took a couple of weeks
Tore down that statue
Set those Saddamites free
The Frogs and the Krauts, they feel real bad,

They missed out cakewalkin’ into Baghdad
Cakewalk to Baghdad,

Cakewalk to Baghdad
Next we’re gonna cakewalk into Teheran,
Gonna cakewalk to Damascus and Pyong-yin-yang
When we strut on in,
Everybody’s gonna cheer
They’ll be wavin’ old glory,

We’ll have kegs of beer, just like that…
Cakewalk to Baghdad,

Cakewalk to Baghdad
Cakewalk to Baghdad,

Cakewalk to Baghdad
Now moms and dads don’t worry ‘bout
Your soldier boys and girls
We’re just sending them cakewalkin’
Around the world
When the coffins come home and the flag unfurls

Cheer for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Perle
Cakewalk to Baghdad,

Cakewalk to Baghdad
Do you think we’ll see those Bush boys patrollin’ the streets
Like our soldiers got to do in Basram and Tikrit?
We gonna see Richard Perle cakewakin’ ‘round

The streets and alleys of Baghdad town?
Cakewalk to Baghdad,

Cakewalk to Baghdad

Easy to cakewalk in … not so easy to cakewalk out.

I have a request for information on behalf of a political junkie friend who generally leans far to the right but is very interested in voting issues. (For all you Californians, I'll note that he helped run Mary Carey's campaign in the gubernatorial recall election. I'll also mention that he has no love for our own Mitt the Twit or for W, although our respective reasons for agreeing on these points overlap only slightly.)

We've been talking about the Busby-Bilbray fiasco as it has been unfolding. When I told him about the swearing-in before the votes were counted, he said, first, that that sounded wrong to him but, second, that he thought he remembered an incident where the Democrats pulled a similar stunt. Does that ring a bell with anyone here? He was also going to check with his usual sources to see if he was remembering correctly, and I said I'd post the question here.

I think we'd all agree that such a move would be wrong no matter who did it. But I'd be interested to know if there was any precedent, and, if so, what if anything came of it.

CambridgeKnitter #33

I've done almost an hour's worth of searching to try to answer your question. No matter how I configure my search I only come up with Bilbray.

I did however find this article, Looks like the repugs have been well practiced!

The Brooks - Baxter War

George Carlin Who Really Controls America!
http://vids.myspace.com/...al&videoID=935607276

This is the first I've seen of this, Bush Declares Eco -Whistleblower Law Void for EPA Employees...Stealth Repeal of Clean Water Act Protections by Invoking "Sovreign Immunity"

ITMFsA

Laura #36

I believe this is the information you were trying to link to.

Thank you so much Bluebear2. I will report back on what my friend finds. It seemed unlikely to me that it could be true because I assume we would have heard no end of it in justification of this outrageous perversion of democracy, just as we hear all about Nixon's loss in 1960 whenever we mention stolen elections. My response to that has become "I see you can't come up with a more recent example of possible Democratic wrongdoing, but I can come up with example after example of Republicans stealing elections beginning with 2000 and continuing to today."

Laura & BB 36 & 37,
You beat me to it. JESUS H. CHRIST, this is the most blatant, in-your-face declaration that bush is now KING that I've seen yet.

Just READ this shit!

"The Bush administration has declared itself immune from whistleblower protections for federal workers under the Clean Water Act...

...federal employees may no longer pursue whistleblower claims under the Clean Water Act. The opinion invoked the ancient doctrine of sovereign immunity which is based on the old English legal maxim that "The King Can Do No Wrong." It is an absolute defense to any legal action unless the "sovereign" consents to be sued..

The opinion and the ruling reverse nearly two decades of precedent..."

Um...let me repeat that 'king' part:

This ruling is based on the maxim that "THE KING CAN DO NO WRONG".

Goddammit and I'm trying not to SMOKE for Christs sake.

Oh. Fuck. I was just getting my positive attitude back.

Fwoosh.

Gave up trying to quit smoking in November 2004, Joan. Might as well die happy.

bu$$hco,..Republican "family values",..

Example Link.

Monday's piece by Chris Floyd is exceptionally good, I thought:
Imperial Apologia: Senate Prepares Pardon for Caesar

Well, I was going to write about Arlen Specter's "Imperial Apologia" bill --- which "legalizes" Bush's patently illegal warrantless surveillance program and whitewashes five years of clearly criminal behavior --- because it's coming before Congress this week, and I've written extensively about it before. (Craven Image: The Senate Bows to Imperial Power; July 20; Fever Dream: Fast Forward to the End of Democracy; Jan. 27). But I find that, as usual, Glenn Greenwald has already got it covered ...and said just about everything I wanted to say about it. (Greenwald is both curse and blessing for dissident writers; a curse, because he is so often "the firstest with the mostest" on many of the vital matters of our time; and a blessing, of course, because he does so much of the heavy lifting for you.)

So go read his whole piece, after you've sampled some excerpts below. This bill is a watershed moment in the history of our Republic; although the spirit of liberty has long rotted away inside the gilded carapace of power, this bill will remove some of the remaining outward flourishes that, in better times, might yet be re-animated. But if the president's power to break laws at whim is officially acknowledged as part of the institutional framework of our government --- as it will be if Specter's craven measure passes --- there will be precious little left to build on. Even the ruins and rubble of our Constitutional Republic are being pounded into sand by Bush and his willing executioners of freedom. They want to leave us nothing that is not in their own iron, bloodstained hands. Dark days indeed.
...
This is a theme I have harped on until I am blue in the face. The idea that the president does not already have draconian powers of surveillance over anyone even remotely suspected of terrorist activity or inclinations is one of the many great and poisonous lies of our times. Yet as Glenn makes clear in this post, it is dram of evil that has been swallowed with gusto by the national media.

READ!

BB2 #37 Thanks, These SOB'S need to go, ITMFsA! Joan, I agree with 99, I can't stop smopking now, I wouldn't have any fingers left to type with.

Smoking...... I corrected that before I posted but it went up anyway. WEIRD

no kidding, Laura. Some days it seems like we specialize in weird around here!

Heck, I kinda like the new term "smopking"! It's expressive of our current condition, and has that great tinfoil hat appeal, too. Just right. I'm gonna go out smopking on my porch for a few minutes now.

I like it that we seem to specialize in weird, But its the community that I'm really thankful for. Thank You ALL!

Hi again Laura ... it just dawned on me that my previous comment could very easily be misinterpreted ... I didn't mean we go out of our way to be weird ... although some of us probably do that, sometimes ... but more: weird things seem to happen here. Not necessarily bad weird, but weird all the same. And I agree with you about the community. We even take good care of our trolls.

We even take good care of our trolls.

Yes! We compost them in our huge facility with 40 of these! Thanks to Bluebear2 (see #31 above) our genius troll management engineer.

C'mon, guys, you're killing me. I haven't had a hit of tobacco for over 7 months now, after 45 years of slavish devotion to the foul habit. I believe that the craving will never go away...

czaragorn: I'm told that lobelia extract helps a lot. Also, lobotomy. (Always thought I'd like a bumper sticker that says, "Lobotomy Is The Kindest Way".) I actually have the willpower not to smoke, but I'm clutching ashtrays to my breast and obsessing about it no matter how long I go. Pathetic. Maybe if I moved to Prague I could do it, though.

... Well. And. I should add that every time I have quit, one rabidly anti-smoking health nazi or other has gone out and bought me cigarettes, presented them to me with the humble request that I smoke them... I'm ashamed to say. So. Stiff upper lip, old chap. We're proud of you.

I'm not for freedom of speech for trolls on private blogs, where they spread lies and propoganda. We get enough of that in the GOP-controlled corporate MSM, where they suppress people like us. It's not the same as freedom of speech for honest, dissenting opinions. Lies and propoganda are different. We can get into a great discussion with someone with an honest, dissenting opinion. We don't have time, nor should Brad offer, a place for lies and misinformation. There's the MSM for that. If Brad lets people post lies and misinformation here, what's the difference between Brad Blog and the MSM?

Agent99 #51

Teenage Lobotomy

I finally had to get real sick with bronchitis and asthma to quit cigarettes after being a light smoker for 20 years.

Now I find it hard to breathe whenever I'm around them. The anti-smoking laws around here have now produced zones outside the doors of the restaurants through which I must hold my breath as I pass.

It's better to get hooker on nicotene gum than smoke . . . . . the lesser evil . . .

Good for you, Czaragorn. Don't give in! (but hell, if you do, no blame, as the I Ching would say)
It's only been a few DAYS for me, so it's touch & go. I'd like go out & have a smopk right damn NOW! But I don't have any in the house & it's raining, fortunately for me.

You know that the swift-boat, disinfo, smear campaign seems to have cranked into gear against Fitzgerald, right? When I saw one article the other day, I though uh-oh, here it comes. This piece is worth a read:
"Special Counsel Under Attack"
By Marc Ash
...and I'm not sure at this point what to make of Michael Isikoff and David Corn or their motives & allegiances. Anybody have an opinion?
Special Counsel Under Attack

JoJ,
Hehe, I assume you meant 'hooked'.

LOL Joan: but it's the Typo of the Week, at least! No?

WP,
Yeah, it is that...and if those are my choices I'd rather smoke, thanks!

Joan:

I'm not sure at this point what to make of Michael Isikoff and David Corn or their motives & allegiances. Anybody have an opinion?

Yeah. I've got one. I haven't been able read David Corn in at least a couple of years without "a paper bag" "on my knee" (to borrow a phrase: RIP JWL - sob!) ... I've been thinking "If David Corn is not a gatekeeper then he does a great gatekeeper-impersonation."

Have you seen this graphic before? THE GATEKEEPERS: Foundations Fund Phony 'Left Media'

Look for David Corn's name in the bottom right corner.

Have you read these articles?

Regulated Resistance: Is It Possible To Change The System When You Are The System?

Regulated Resistance: Pt. 2 - The Gatekeepers of the So-Called Left

and ... if you'll permit me to link to one of my own ... here's a cold-blog entry with a decidedly hairy ending: Pick Up All The Pieces And Make An Island

WP: The American Free Press extensively reports on Bilderberg and the New World Order. Recently tasered Christopher Bollyn is a reporter for AFP. I just resubscribed to AFP. AFP consistenly reports on Bilderberg, 9/11 inside job, and e-vote fraud, and the Israeli lobby influencing our government too much. What's not to like about AFP? The only newspaper in America who reports on this stuff.

WP: Found this about "left gatekeepers" getting rid of Mike Malloy, from Wayne Madsen:

Sept. 2/3, 2006 --- WMR is de-linking to Air America Radio as a result of its decision to fire Mike Malloy. We will not provide portals to those who claim they are liberals and progressives but serve as information gatekeepers and censors for the global media elites and neo-con types.

The Washington Post's cheap shot at Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his former covert CIA wife in yesterday's edition should earn them a de-linking from our site, but there are still a few (very few) decent reporters there whose articles should be read. However, the paper's editorial staff consists of nothing more than neo-con apologists and enablers and globalists who decry Mexico's popular revolt against election fraud, Venezuela's Bolivarian Revolution, Bolivia's peasant and Native American rise to power, and anything that endangers the plans of the corporate and banking elites. In one of the highest compliments paid to WMR, a former Washington Post senior editor said we are providing the hard-hitting coverage of politics and corruption in Washington that the Post should be doing. And with that and other words of support at our backs, we will continue to ply ahead as the November election --- the most critical in the history of the United States --- nears.

Mike Malloy: Fired by the information gatekeepers and censors at Air America Radio.

The Post and Air America Radio are in the same category of other so-called "liberal" web sites to which we de-linked as soon as it became apparent that they were nothing more than Democratic Leadership Council annexes parading around as liberal web sites. They are identifiable by their banning of posters and incessant censorship of content. Malloy unabashedly told his listening audience that he and his wife voted for Cynthia McKinney in the recent Georgia primary run-off election. The sacking of Malloy and the party purge of McKinney are all part of the censorship in this country --- censorship that is aided and abetted from the ranks of so-called Democrats. This country will not return to an even keel until we not only cleanse the neo-cons and fanatic right-wingers from our midst, but also those who claim "progressive: credentials but are, in fact, lickspittles for the corporate elites.

WMR continues to provide direct links to the Randi Rhodes Show, Ring of Fire with Bobby Kennedy Jr. and Mike Papantonio, Thom Hartmann, and Sam Seder's Majority Report. We support their continued independence from the corporate censors and overseers at Air America Radio. Our boycott of Air America Radio and its sponsors will continue until that network re-instates Malloy with a new and more financially beneficial contract. Until then, Air who?

Man, hookers smopking! Is nothing sacred? And, listening to the Ramones is kinda like lobotomy.... Air who?

Talk about alot of milage from typo, yes "hooked" on the gum Hehehe. . .

"Extraordinary Renditions",.. is this how Rummy "disappears" the evidence of that illegality ?
Does it get more despicable than this ?

http://www.uruknet.info/...;hd=0&size=1&l=e

Here is the teacher/student viewing guide for the fascist ABC docudrama about 9/11,.. bu$$h not to blame,.. the person responsible for 9/11 - CLINTON !?!

Here's the viewing guide.

ABC right-wing propaganda docudrama info,..

ABC TV Propaganda Docudrama.

More on ABC propaganda docudrama,..

"The Path To 9/11"

DRINK THE KOOL-AID

Link to detailed article.

1996 July,.. Clinton asks for legal expanded wiretapping to keep tabs on OBL,.. the Republican controlled house rejected Clinton's requests to be able to better monitor international terrorism.

Now Arlen Spencer writes laws to retroactively exonerate bu$$hco for breaking the FISA Laws and violations of civil and constitutional rights of the citizens of the USA.

1996 - Republican controlled Senate would not permit Clinton to expand legal wiretapping to monitor OBL.

JOJ - yuk! Who likes the taste of the gum? Besides, it's looking more and more like the nicotine itself is more of a problem than the smoking part (I'm sure there's a link out there somewhere...). BB2 - You were lucky to get off so easy. 45 years of heavy smoking won me a thankfully minor stroke and a few weeks of seeing double. Yes sir, that'll do it! And now I could afford the occasional hooker, were I so inclined!

#70 It's an aquired taste - NMFL gop !!!

There a BOOB on the Tube now . . .

I've got that SSOSB (stupid son of a stupid bitch) on NPR right now, on my puter in Prague - methinks it does protest too much

I can't stand hearing it talk about "intelligence"

9/11 Docudrama on abc is a LIE

Tell abc to TELL THE TRUTH

http://thinkprogress.org/tellabc

& "FUCK ABC" Just For Good Measure!!!

The VICTORY act?

I forgot about that one. I have to go to sleep now.