READER COMMENTS ON
"Moore, Moore, Moore...and Other Vital News: 'BradCast' 12/11/2017"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
Ernest A. Canning
said on 12/11/2017 @ 6:24 pm PT...
Finally, a court issued injunction that addresses the need for election integrity.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 12/11/2017 @ 9:51 pm PT...
If Doug Jones should hold an early lead in Tuesday night's tabulation/returns, then America will get to watch election-fraud IN ACTION. What a treat that will be!
If Jones has the lead, then expect the usual computer glitch halting tabulation to occur a bit after midnight when everyone's asleep. When it resumes after an hour or 2, Jones' lead will vanish and Moore will go on to win.
I'll be so disappointed if Moore leads all the way, and the fraud is not visible. Where's the fun in that?
But it will be so much more satisfying to actually "watch the cheat" as it happens, if Jones should have a lead, and the "glitch" changes everything.
Since Moore will be winning regardless, the glitch/Fraud maneuver being visible will at least be, in a sense, giving us our money's worth out of a bad situation----Ah, FRAUD, for all to see. Just like I pictured it ...
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 12/11/2017 @ 10:44 pm PT...
congrats john brakey and everyone that supported him in this case
in alabama tomorrow there is away to get around the id law...if an election official will say they know you live in precinct(at least i thought i heard on news)
a huge write in vote benefits jones
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 12/11/2017 @ 11:59 pm PT...
ok so the bama supremes overturned?
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
Ernest A. Canning
said on 12/12/2017 @ 8:27 am PT...
In his Dec. 11 Order Granting Preliminary Injunction, Judge Roman Ashley Shaul order simply required that all "counties employing digital ballot scanners in the Dec. 12, 2017 election...to set their voting machines to save ALL PROCESSED IMAGES in order to preserve all digital ballot images. This order applies to those machines that have such a setting and does not apply to any machine that does not allow for processed images to be saved."
The court noted that "there was little argument...that the law requires digital images to be preserved as a matter of Alabama law and Federal Law. The Secretary of State's Office..does have the ability to provide election information to election officials as a matter of course and routinely does so; and...all parties agreed that the relief requested would require nominal resources and cost on the part of the Defendants."
Subsequently, Greg Palast Tweeted that he had been informed by attorneys John Brakey and Chris Sautter that the GA Supreme Court had stayed Judge Shaul's order based up an ex parte complaint filed by the State.
If accurate, that is deeply troubling for two reasons.
(1) Under Rule 3.5 of the Alabama Rules of Professional Conduct, it is ordinarily unethical for an attorney to engage in ex parte communications with a judge --- communications about the substantive merits of litigation in which the opposition does not have adequate notice and opportunity to be heard.
2. Given the absence of significant costs and the clarity of the legal obligation to preserve the record, it is difficult to comprehend any reason for the stay --- other than a desire to preserve the ability of local election officials to alter the outcome of this pivotal election without leaving the evidence of that alteration for all to see via the preserved digital images.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 12/12/2017 @ 10:03 am PT...
can anyone address the rules concerning straight party voting?
if a person votes straight party repub and then votes jones in senate that ballot would be thrown out as an over vote wouldn't it?
trying to see if following twit is incorrect
Aaron Booth @ActorAaronBooth
Was able to confirm with Sec Merrill’s Spox that if a voter picks “Republican Party” AND “Doug Jones” that it would be a vote for Doug Jones. “The straight party option only comes into play when a voter leaves an option open on the ballot.” #ALSen https://twitter.com/acto...tatus/938102857001205761 …
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 12/12/2017 @ 10:49 am PT...
Ernie @ 5:
FWIW, this was one thing I was worried about when discussing the matter with John Brakey last week before the suit was filed, that a version of the "Purcell Principle" could be applied here. I asked Rick Hasen about it after the AL Supremes decision here.
Here's how that convo went this morning...
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 12/12/2017 @ 11:12 am PT...
Karen @ 6:
That is also my understanding of AL state law on how to count votes for a different party's candidate than that specified on the "Straight Party" option.
Whether the computers that do the tallying understand it that way, of course, is a separate matter.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
Ernest A. Canning
said on 12/12/2017 @ 1:07 pm PT...
Re Brad @7.
In furtherance of Rick Hasen remarks, the Purcell principle has been applied with respect to the timing of federal court orders affecting state election law procedures. Generally a federal court will not order eleventh hour changes to how an election is "conducted" (e.g., photo ID laws) so as to avoid confusion "at the polls."
As Rick notes, the state court injunction does not impact how votes are cast at the "front end" and therefore would not cause confusion "at the polls."
It simply requires that election officials to simply set the machines to save all processed images. That is neither a burdensome 11th hour change nor one that would cause "confusion at the polls."
Finally, before the AL Supreme Court issued a stay, it should have afforded notice and opportunity to be heard to the plaintiff. Otherwise, the issuance of a stay would be the product of a denial of due process. It was incumbent on the Court to explain the reason why a stay was issued.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 12/12/2017 @ 6:06 pm PT...
Here's what the defendants (State SoS and Election Administrator) argued at the conclusion of their motion [PDF] seeking the stay [emphasis mine]:
An order of this sort which purports to direct non-party election officials to make major last-minute changes to the machines is likely to cause confusion and is likely to disrupt election activities.
Whether that's true or not, whether it won't affect voters as Hasen (and you) seem to be arguing, doesn't matter as much as whether the court in this case --- where nobody was present to argue against the defendants --- believe it's a last minute issue that can cause chaos at the polls. And it looks like the court bought that argument.
That said, I have been troubled from the outset about what the plaintiffs were calling for this late in the game. I don't like the idea at all of election officials/poll workers going into the Admin section of the voting system software at the last minute at the polls.
Yes, it should be a simple flip of a software switch. And, in truth, it is. BUT, accessing the Admin settings on the systems after they've been deployed is INCREDIBLY dangerous. It's VERY easy to do damage at that point.
Now, one of the attorneys on the case this morning told me that Defendants didn't make the "chaos" argument at all in the lower court, nor did they argue that accessing the Admin screens was dangerous. But it is dangerous to do while the system is in "Election Mode", and the state Supremes seemed to buy the argument defendants made in their emergency ex parte motion.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 12/13/2017 @ 12:04 am PT...
I was wrong and I couldn't be happier.
Doug Jones WINS over Roy Moore, and I am totally shocked.
I still believe that the GOP COULD HAVE reversed the vote-count via "black box" tabulation shenanigans at the last minute, if it wanted to.
Apparently, the party elites must have figured Roy Moore's presence in the senate would actually HURT them more than help them, and allowed the accurately-tabulated results to come in without computer manipulation.
It may be a strike back against Steve Bannon as well, whose power/status seems diminished by this loss.
IMO, the GOP decided not to "Honduricize" this election because Moore/Bannon would have more harm than good to the party.
Doug Jones is no Progressive, and is likely much more "centrist".
But for Alabama, that will do.