READER COMMENTS ON
"Freedom's Just Another Word"
(27 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Peg C
said on 1/27/2005 @ 8:54 am PT...
"Embarrassing," Fin? I could think of a few other choice words.
Not only is * humiliating us in front of the whole planet, he's telling the world that we are all as stupid, deluded and cruel as he and his backers are. He even has an incompetent, craven, underendowed military to back up his claims. "Infuriating," "maddening," "horrifying," "revolting," "nauseating," ...
But I think those words also apply to our purblind, pickled-in-delusion populace, who assume, wrongly, that eminence is its own justification and that a hideous fascist caricature could never succeed in taking over red-white-and-blue, God-blessed Amurka.
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Dredd
said on 1/27/2005 @ 9:01 am PT...
In an earlier comment I cite an article that points out that the Iraqi election office is hiding out in another country (Texas?).
That really puts the Iraqi standard behind those Juan Cole mentions in Fin's quote.
How utterly pathetic that they would present this bushit to the world as anything other than demockracy of the criminal kind.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 1/27/2005 @ 9:50 am PT...
Does anyone know if the Diebold election machines are going to be used to count the Iraqi votes?
This complaint against Diebold points out known security problems.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Teresa
said on 1/27/2005 @ 11:33 am PT...
Yes. It's embarrasing. Infuriating. Maddening.
Horrifying. Revolting.
And hideous, disgusting and frikken sickening!
Word is, yesterday at his press conference he was bubbling with good cheer and confidence after learning that 35 soldiers had just died.
HE'S FUCKING INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Teresa
said on 1/27/2005 @ 11:36 am PT...
This 2nd "s" got lost. PLease paste.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Teresa
said on 1/27/2005 @ 12:26 pm PT...
And Peg C, you are so right about our pickled populace that coddles the monster and appoints a proven liar and part architect of an illegal war to the highest diplomatic post in the land.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Steve
said on 1/27/2005 @ 2:21 pm PT...
Peg C-
I'll second your comments! They are my thoughts exactly.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Steve
said on 1/27/2005 @ 2:23 pm PT...
Peg C-
I'll second your comments! They are my thoughts exactly.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 1/27/2005 @ 2:38 pm PT...
"Freedom is just another word for nothin' left to loose" (Janis Joplin)
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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cheryl
said on 1/27/2005 @ 4:40 pm PT...
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 1/27/2005 @ 5:24 pm PT...
Cheryl #10 ... way cool. I note this quote from it:
For the majority of the American public that has the attention span of a gnat and the memory of a fish the great fantasy-laden altruism of bringing freedom and democracy to Iraqis will be swallowed whole. Only America can bring an end to evil, they will be told, and only we have been blessed by the Almighty itself to end tyranny worldwide. To the easily manipulated, this bull fecal matter is manna from heaven, a justification to continue noble intentions and the fight against evil.
It has been told over and over in prose and songs of satire:
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But now we got weapons
Of the chemical dust
If fire them we're forced to
Then fire them we must
One push of the button
And a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions
When God's on your side.
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Bod Dylan(1964).
One interesting note is that the MSM never destroyed Dylan, even tho he told them what they were.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Peg C
said on 1/27/2005 @ 6:22 pm PT...
I love Valenzuela. I've referenced him here myself. Thanks, Cheryl. That incandescent anger will be kindling (figuratively, I hope) fires and lighting the murky skies all over America before long. Just let it be SOON...
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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cheryl
said on 1/27/2005 @ 7:29 pm PT...
Boy, can that man WRITE!!
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Peg C
said on 1/27/2005 @ 8:05 pm PT...
Yes he can, Cheryl. Amen.
And in that same vein, I'd like to insert a Presidential quote here, as quoted in Gilbert Jordan's piece at Common Dreams. See if you can guess who said this:
'Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children....This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from an iron cross.'
That was Eisenhower in his final speech in 1953. I was never much of an Eisenhower fan myself, but compared to the GeeOhPee-ers of today he sounded positively liberal. And he had had first-hand experience with *'s model, ... what was his name now? Oh, you know: that other flaming Nazi.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Chemoelectric.org
said on 1/27/2005 @ 8:40 pm PT...
Teresa says: "Word is, yesterday at his press conference he was bubbling with good cheer and confidence after learning that 35 soldiers had just died."
Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori. They died for Bush.
The Leader is not "insane" in the way usually meant these days in the United States. He is not, for instance, innocent of his war crimes. His malady is primarily the so-called Narcissistic Personality Disorder. In his book Bush on the Couch, Justin Frank calls it "megalomania," but I believe this term is not in common use in the United States.
The way I look at, yes, he is nutty as a fruitcake. He belongs in either a prison for the crazy or a hospital for the criminal, I don't care which.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Teresa
said on 1/27/2005 @ 10:55 pm PT...
That's it! I'm cleaning up my language!
OK. Here's a quiz:
Guess who this was when asked about the pre-election violence in Iraq?(paraphrased)
"One has to accept that which is, in terms of what is intended to be at some possible future time. It may or may not be a necessity concerning the present situation at hand at the moment, in order to facilitate the intended future outcome at some forthcoming point.
CORRECT!! Gold Star!.........Donald Rumsfeld.
Translation: I don't have a #!%!??&#! fucking clue!
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Teresa
said on 1/27/2005 @ 10:58 pm PT...
And these people are building a global empire????
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Dredd
said on 1/28/2005 @ 6:12 am PT...
Teresa #16,#17 ... LOL.
That's why we call him rummy.
hic ...
He is drunk on his own bushit.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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cheryl
said on 1/28/2005 @ 7:14 am PT...
Teresa - What the hell was that? And this when he was *dialoguing* with whom? The things that come out of these Bushite's mouths are designed to confuse people into believing that they know what they are talking about. I think many people think, "I didn't understand a word of what he just said therefore he must be a really, really smart man". (Course, we all remember the emperor who wore no clothes.)
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Teresa
said on 1/29/2005 @ 3:47 am PT...
Thanks Winter Patriot. You're a good man. Music and poetry are my life.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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cheryl
said on 1/29/2005 @ 11:09 am PT...
Ooh Winter. That gave me goosebumps. Hey, are you taken? You sound like a keeper to me. (Just kidding-got one already-after 22 years of training I have no desire to start again.)
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Winter Patriot
said on 1/29/2005 @ 12:19 pm PT...
This is turning out to be my most heart-rending post in many weeks, and I can't decide whether to blame it on Fin (for the title of the thread) or Dredd (for comment #9).
But regardless of who's to blame, there's this song going on between my ears and I simply cannot get out of my head. And I figure I might not be the only one so I might as well post the entire lyric and maybe we can all get it over with.
The song was made famous by Janis Joplin, but it was written by Kris Kristofferson, and this is the way he sang it. Janis sang it different, of course. Janis sang everything different. .
Me & Bobby McGee
-- Kris Kristofferson --
Busted flat in Baton Rouge, headin’ for the trains,
Feelin’ nearly faded as my jeans.
Bobby thumbed a diesel down just before it rained,
Took us all the way to New Orleans.
Took my Harpoon out of my dirty red bandana
And was blowin’ sad while bobby sang the blues,
With them windshield wipers slappin’ time
and Bobby clappin’ hands
we finally sang up every song that driver knew.
Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose,
And nothin’ ain’t worth nothin’ but it’s free,
Feelin’ good was easy, Lord, when Bobby sang the blues,
And buddy, that was good enough for me,
Good enough for me and my Bobby McGee.
From the coal mines of Kentucky to the Clifornia sun,
Bobby shared the secrets of my soul,
Standin’ right beside me through everythin’ I done,
And every night she kept me from the cold.
Then somewhere near Salinas, Lord, I let her slip away,
She was lookin’ for the love I hope she’ll find,
Well I’d trade all my tomorrows for a single yesterday,
Holdin’ Bobby’s body close to mine.
Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose,
And nothin’ left was all she left to me,
Feelin’ good was easy, Lord, when Bobby sang the blues,
And buddy, that was good enough for me.
Good enough for me and Bobby McGee.
That's a beauty, Kris. No wonder she loved it so much. And it's no wonder we loved her so much either, is it? RIP, Janis. Sob.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Teresa
said on 1/30/2005 @ 1:19 am PT...
Hey Cheryl, I know what you mean. I had one for 25 until he got liberated. Found that beloved freedom. Tyranny over. Into the Promised Land he went.
Wonder who's training whom.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Winter Patriot
said on 1/30/2005 @ 8:11 pm PT...
in comment #23, Teresa wrote:
"Wonder who's training whom."
Good question, Teresa. I've been wondering that myself ... ever since Cheryl wrote:
"after 22 years of training I have no desire to start again"
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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mon
said on 4/2/2005 @ 2:57 am PT...
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mon
said on 4/2/2005 @ 2:57 am PT...
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mon
said on 4/2/2005 @ 2:57 am PT...