Nice one Brad ... keep connecting those dots....

For the eleventyseventh time:
If you're white you're alright
If you're brown, stick around
If you're black, stay back
I first heard this 60 years ago, and not much has changed, except the browns have sunk a notch

Keep it simple. Consider all circumstances and facts of the case, including victim statements, etc.

1st case: 1-2 yrs of anger management with the stipulation that another incidence of domestic assault is grounds for immediate termination.

2d case: Out

Seems fair enough. Many of these people need help, no reason to destroy their lives.

Columnist Robert Stacy McCain appears to have entered a competition to be regarded as America’s premier chauvinist jerk. He claims that Ray Rice punched his then-fiancée in the face because feminists have "turned men and women into equals."

I'm gonna stick to the FOX version, it was the railing. Funny how you can be right and so, so, wrong

Francis @ 3 said:

1st case: 1-2 yrs of anger management with the stipulation that another incidence of domestic assault is grounds for immediate termination.

2d case: Out

Seems fair enough. Many of these people need help, no reason to destroy their lives.

So, just curious here. Would you feel the same if Judge Fuller had beaten a random person on the street bloody over and again and dragged her around by the hair? Or if Rice had punched a stranger in an elevator? In those cases, you'd also say "no reason to destroy their lives"?

How about if Fuller beat the crap out of your wife or daughter? Same thing? Give them another chance? No jail time? Just anger management classes once a week for a while?

BTW, the other flaw in your short-sighted suggestion is that, for example in Fuller's case, he was already accused of a former wife of beating her (and their kids) up. But because there were no charges, it's as if it never existed. Now that he's beaten his second wife bloody, it will be as if it never existed as well, since he's being allowed a pre-trial diversion program to take anger management classes and not destroy his life. Just as you advise.

So, next time he does it, it'll be as if it never happened before...even if the next time is the time he kills someone.

So, still sticking by your suggestion?

Francis @3 appears to have emerged from some sort of time warp.

There was a time in this country, like the 1950s, when domestic violence was treated as a family matter.

That's certainly no longer the case. At the national level, Congress passed three successive Violence Against Women Acts.

Both of these two cases involve criminal acts.

While you display sympathy towards the perpetrators of domestic violence --- "Many of these people need help, no reason to destroy their lives" --- your comment fails to take into account the reasons why "domestic violence" is treated as a criminal act when it entails a violent act. Those acts can become progressively more violent, to include such crimes as rape and murder.

As recited by Wikipedia:

So excuse me if I am less than impressed by your "sweep-the-problem-under-the-rug" suggestion.

chris hayes mentioned fuller last night on his show and promised a follow up

good job,lets keep it going and get this "gentleman" impeached