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   River said on 3/11/2008 @ 3:36am PT: [Permalink]

   I’m wondering what the issues with doing a mail-in revote for Florida (Ohio? too) primary. I gather that Oregon uses mail in voting. Do they have issues with election fraud? When they count the votes, how do they know the person who filled out the form is the intended recipient? Do they just mail out a form to each registered voter? Can voters cross-over to other party’s primary? What security is there on ballots. How are they counted, who’s watching, etc. I guess it’s hard for me to trust Florida or Ohio elections, after 2000 and 2004, even in a primary. Wouldn’t like to see the Supreme Court deciding who the Democratic nominee is..

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   randy said on 3/11/2008 @ 6:57am PT: [Permalink]

   it seems to me like it’s going to be the dems pay for the vote and the repugs count them. bet that turns out well.

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   John Gideon said on 3/11/2008 @ 7:10am PT: [Permalink]

   River

   Oregon does not seem to have any issues with people filling out the ballot for someone else. Of course there is no way to prove that is happening if it is happening unless someone admits it or is turned in for doing it.

   Oregon, and Washington, just mail out a ballot to every registered voter. The voters have the option, in Washington at least, of using that ballot and sending it through the mail, or using that ballot and placing it into a ballot box at some early voting sites, or voting on a DRE at some early voting sites.

   Washington allows cross-over in the primary but the voter has to sign an oath that he/she will not vote differently in the caucus. I’m not sure what Oregon’s rules for party-line voting are. They don’t hold caucuses though.

   The ballots are counted be optical-scan in public. Anyone who wants to watch is allowed to watch.

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   JEANNIE DEAN in FL-13 said on 3/11/2008 @ 7:36am PT: [Permalink]

   John Gideon, you wonder-man, you! Thank you so much for your continued, amazing, research and links! Don’t know how I’d learn anything without you.

   Looks like now I have to bone up on VOTE BY MAIL/ will be the THIRD voting system I’ve been forced to use and then learn to monitor in my corruption-ridden, sickly-rich, lil’ Sarasota County since 2006.
   Crazy.

   And John, doesn’t VOTE BY MAIL system make the US POST OFFICE responsible for the entire CHAIN OF CUSTODY?…
   HOoo…boy.

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   John Gideon said on 3/11/2008 @ 8:00am PT: [Permalink]

   Jeannie, Thank you for your kind comments. We just do what we can do.

   Don’t study too hard on vote by mail in Florida. I think this article pretty much spells out what the problems are with holding a primary do-over via vote by mail.

   Yes, the Post Office is involved in that chain. But again, those who don’t trust the PO can hand-deliver their ballot.

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   Phil said on 3/11/2008 @ 8:10am PT: [Permalink]

   The op-scans need to be shredded, recycled, disassembled and put in a museum.

   The only thing electronic should be something to help the disabled PRINT a fuckin ballot.

   Now the chain of custody thing is gonna take bodies to protect. Want to protect it? Better volunteer.

   the next question is what POWER should be granted to volunteers that are protecting the chain of custody. Seems like with the crap top-down leadership (sic) control that really they can only report after the fact, instead of sayin, NO this is bad, stop the election. Chain of custody is broken, all the ballots are nullified.

   e.g. Instead of the corruption throwing EI folks out they should be arrested. And the whole election re-done.

   but I digress, I have had a few coors’s this morning.