...and this little piggy rove went weeeee all the way home.

Um, check the date of your citation. Yes, after the resolution was already before congress Bush urged its passage. DUH! But this hardly disproves what Rove is claiming. I mean, maybe Rove is wrong (honestly or not) but you haven't done anything to convince the reader of that.

In fact I recall the Spring and Summer of '02 pretty well, and the way I remember it is at the very least consistent with Rove's claim: All that time the Bush admin wanted to delay debate on Iraq until after the election.

It was Democrats in congress who repeatedly insisted that they wanted a debate now, before the election, and insisted that congress had to authorize the use of force.

The Bush administration gave in to these demands after months of ceaseless hectoring. Then, of course, Democrats immediately switched to complaining about getting what they asked for. Which isn't the last time that would happen. (Nor, alas, is such schizophrenic behavior rare in politics on either side.)

That lil pimple on the ass's world is disqualified.

Stultis

What an apt name for yet another coming out of the Virginia shill mill! It won't do any good to remind you to read the Rules For Commenting, but you could at least try not making up whoppers to rival Rove's.

Since when is anything too political in the Bushie Rovian world?

for being a lying theiving piece of puss!!!!!!!!!

I think there's only one billo fan in the family that would disagree, out of 9.

Jon,

Yep some would say:

Some of the psychosis of the neoCon elements is showing thru.

Cheney's heart is showing thru Rove's word psychosis:

Congress pushed Bush to war in Iraq prematurely ... As might have been predicted, Rove raises "historical revisionism" to new depths, what may become known as "hysterical Rovisionism."

(KKKarl Rove).

The problem is dimentia:

Dementia is a loss of brain function. It is not a single disease. Instead, dementia refers to a group of illnesses that involve memory, behavior, learning, and communicating problems. The problems are progressive, which means they slowly get worse.

(Medical Encyclopedia).

(Just a Bradblogger). But others seem to know celebs better, and so, some defer to them.

But 6 of 7 of us do not because we are the blog and resistance is futile.

6 or 7 of us are still at it...

shw

The DEMS pushed the start of the war up? Sure, KKKKarl, they were the minority in Congress, but the Dems shoved the war down the Republicans front. He must really think that the US citizenry have no memory, or are stupid, or both. Hence, Stultis.

Stultis,

You didn't offer any sources or citations for your assertion that the Dems tried to speed up passage of Bush's war resolution before Sept. 2002 --- because there aren't any. The resolution was dreamed up by Rove and the Iraq Study Group and sent to Congress where it was rammed through by constant hectoring by Bush and his cabal. It was passed in the House on Oct. 10 and by the Senate the next day.

I find this so puzzling. Conservatives will have the rest of us believe they are always right on the issues --- and yet they also feel they must lie to win arguments. If the truth is on your side, that ought to be enough.

Just waving hello to the other 6 or 7 still here...

re: Rove - He reminds me of a small child who, standing there with chocolate smeared on his face and clothes and an empty wrapper at his feet, still defiantly denies that he ate the candy bar.

He's a loyal Bushie to the end - he'll go to his grave denying that he OR Bush ever did anything wrong.

And, in just a couple of years, he'll be blaming it all on the Clintons.

I think this latest line of Rovisionism is to make Rove's legacy look plausbile and only by coincidence does it give the Mighty Wurlitzer something to spin and spew. Rove is out to make himself credible again after a disasterous 2006. This is about him, not Bush. This is about re-legitimizing himself as an political strategist. This is Nixonian-like effort at rehabilitation. And it is utterly pathetic, even for Rove.

One's got to wonder what his offshore account looks like!

Maybe daddy will keep em for a pet pig on the Paraguay farm.

Stultis:

ARE YOU FUCKING NUTS????????????????????????

BIH ~ henry hyde ~ 83 Yrs too many ~ (Burn In Hell)

Maybe Stultis *is* Rove? Who else would think that garbage is true? Yeah right! The DEMOCRATS forced this awful war on the poor Bush administration. Sheesh. There's a bridge here in Coronado, CA that is priced at a real steal! Email me if you are interested.

I wonder if it is this is the same "Stultis." Check out the "links" page...

they more easily fall a victim to a big lie than to a little one, since they themselves lie in little things, but would be ashamed of lies that were too big.

--- Adolph Hitler, from Mein Kampf

Sheer implausibility is not necessarily a defect when lying, as history has clearly shown. And Rove, a modern day Goebbels, has a long track record as a practitioner of the big lie technique.

Mister rove You Are A Stool With Eyes . . .

How dare you compare Mr Hankey with Rove! What an insult to talking Christman Poos everywhere.

Rove is built from bullshit - it defines his existence, and his worth to those he works for.

Everything out of his mouth is posture-first, truth a distant second, if there at all.

His apologists notwithstanding, he's a criminal who will never do his time.

Small wonder Gore Vidal and Pat Buchanan (on as extreme-opposite-ends-of-the-political-spectrum as you can find) both are saying that the U.S.A. is "decomposing".

People like Karl Rove-and-company being in positions of influence put me in no mood to argue with Vidal and Buchanan.