READER COMMENTS ON
"Friday, July 27: The Peter B. Collins Show as Guest Hosted by Brad..."
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:03 pm PT...
The whole world around here is being whacked and mowed and I'm really, really hoping I'll be able to hear everyone over the din.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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leftisbest
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:05 pm PT...
Notes from ongoing conference call with Debra Bowen:
1. Security teams were able to bypass both physical and software security in every system they tested.
2. SOS wants input from people who will read the several-hundred page report of findings over the weekend.
3. No recommendations made yet - awaiting input Monday
4. Public hearing at 10 a.m. Monday (7/30/07) at the SOS auditorium in Sacramento and continue that day until all testimony is taken.
5.Web cast likely via CalChannel live. Will also be videotaped and archived on Monday.
6. L.A. County's InkAVote is in limbo - since there was such delay by ES&S - uncertain how long it will take to deal with them - status up in the air.
7. Decisions WILL be made on EVERY system (Sequoia, ES&S and Diebold) by August 3rd.
More to follow as call continues!
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:14 pm PT...
So is he transfering presidential power to * while he's under?
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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emlev
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:15 pm PT...
Here's where Debra Bowen's top-to-bottom review results will be posted when available:
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:19 pm PT...
Excuse me? This ain't *'s America! That's just what HE thinks.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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leftisbest
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:24 pm PT...
Executive Summary re Sequoia-
6.1 Sequoia
The red team analyzing the Sequoia system identified several issues. They fall into
several classes:
1. Physical Security. The testers were able to gain access to the internals of the systems
by, for example, unscrewing screws to bypass locks. The screws were not protected
by seals. Similarly, plastic covers that were protected by seals could be pried open
enough to insert tools that could manipulate the protected buttons without damaging
the disk, they could overwrite the boot loader and replace it with a malicious boot loader.
This program could then corrupt anything it loaded, including previously uncorrupted
firmware. the seals or leaving any evidence that the security of the system had been
compromised.
2. Overwriting Firmware. The testers discovered numerous ways to overwrite the
firmware of the Sequoia Edge system, using (for example) malformed font files and
doctored update cartridges. The general approach was to write a program into
memory and use that to write the corrupt firmware onto disk. At the next reboot, the
boot loader loaded the malicious firmware. At this point, the attackers controlled the
machine, and could manipulate the results of the election. No source code access was
required or used for this attack, and a feature of the proprietary operating system on
the Edge made the attack easier than if a commercial operating system had been used.
3. Overwriting the Boot Loader. Just as the testers could overwrite firmware on the
disk, they could overwrite the boot loader and replace it with a malicious boot loader.
This program could then corrupt anything it loaded, including previously uncorrupted
firmware.
4. Detecting Election Mode. The firmware can determine whether the system is in test
mode (LAT) or not. This means malicious firmware can respond correctly to the preelection
testing and incorrectly to the voters on Election Day.
5. Election Management System. The testers were able to bypass the Sequoia WinEDS
client controlling access to the election database, and access the database directly.
They were able to execute system commands on the host computer with access only
to the database. Further, the testers were able to exploit the use of the autorun feature
to insert a malicious program onto the system running the Sequoia WinEDS client;
this program would be able to detect the insertion of an election cartridge and
configure it to launch the above attacks when inserted into an Edge.
6. Presence of an Interpreter. A shell-like scripting language interpreted by the Edge
includes commands that set the protective counter, the machine’s serial number,
modify the firmware, and modify the audit trail.
7. Forging materials. Both the update cartridges and voter cards could be forged.
The report presents several scenarios in which these weaknesses could be exploited to
affect the correct recording, reporting, and tallying of votes.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:30 pm PT...
First yer happy to straddle and now the closet? Something you want to tell us, Brad?
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:32 pm PT...
:-) You should try it, Agent99!
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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emlev
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:33 pm PT...
Oops! Let's try that again. Here's the link where you can see Bowen's report.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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emlev
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:35 pm PT...
I'm thinking the blog will get some new readers today with this Bowen news. Let's try to behave ourselves for once, ok?
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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emlev
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:41 pm PT...
Thank you, LeftIsBest, for the updates! Keep 'em coming!
I've linked to this discussion and given you a shoutout on DemocraticUnderground.com
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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LDoores
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:49 pm PT...
Brad & Greg:
When Bush says Tilman investigation cannot be made public because of Executive Privilege
DOES HE NOT ADMIT that HE is PERSONALLY Involved?
Q: Did George W. [Big Georgie] Bush ORDER THE HIT??
I must say, I'm stunned that Executive Privilege would be brought into the Tilman Case.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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emlev
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:49 pm PT...
LeftIsBest,
You wrote, "2. SOS wants input from people who will read the several-hundred page report of findings over the weekend."
How should people who want to do that sign up?
Thanks.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:51 pm PT...
Em
The bathroom humor contingent seems to be on its best behavior, here, so far, but they're chomping on the bit lately.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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emlev
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:55 pm PT...
Check this out:
SHREDS OF EVIDENCE (How Ohio Participated In A Coup D’etat)
Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.
July 25, 2007
Those who would dismiss out of hand our allegations of election fraud are fond of claiming that there is not a “shred of evidence” to substantiate our charges. To the contrary, there are millions of shreds of evidence in Ohio. In at least 56 of 88 counties, ballots and other elections records were shredded or otherwise destroyed....
More
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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phil
said on 7/27/2007 @ 3:55 pm PT...
My only contribution to the show today is....
1.)
"NOW" on PBS, 7:30 PM - Sacramento, California PBS CH 6 KVIE
KVIE-DT 6.1, which can also be seen on Comcast 906 and Charter 786, and streamed online at kvie.org
2.)
Top To Bottom Review
Secretary of State's office will conduct a public hearing on July 30, 2007 beginning at 10:00 am in the Auditorium of the Secretary of State building at 1500 11th Street in Sacramento.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Mark S
said on 7/27/2007 @ 4:10 pm PT...
1. Why are we trying to impeach two guys who were never legitimately elected in the first place?
2. How can Congress tolerate a tyrant worse than King George? King George was pretty bad, but at least he recognized the Magna Carta and did not try to abolish habeus corpus as George Bush has done. King George did not seize, imprison, torture, and sometimes kill people on his word alone, without charges, without trial, and in secret prisons. King George claimed Divine Right, but never claimed that God talked to him. King George did not set himself above the laws of man, God, and nature as George Bush has.
3. What good are even honest elections when there are three bodies, Congress, the Supreme Court, and the Electoral College (the last two unelected) who can nullify elections at will and seat whomever they please without reference to the will of the people?
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 7/27/2007 @ 4:19 pm PT...
I've had a request for Agent99 to call in to the show. Folks want to hear the voice behind anger!
Paging 99, Paging 99... Please call 888-5PeterB... thank you.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 7/27/2007 @ 4:21 pm PT...
#14, 99 what ? you have something against crappy poetry ?
(snicker)
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 4:30 pm PT...
You and yer gerbils, Flo...
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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billy sunshine
said on 7/27/2007 @ 4:35 pm PT...
agent 99
thanks for the kind words
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Chris Hooten
said on 7/27/2007 @ 4:40 pm PT...
Ooh! I heard Agent99 on the Peter B show! She wasn't quite as sesquipedalian as I thought she can be, but sounded gosh-durn ornery and feisty.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 4:41 pm PT...
No, thank you, Billy. xoxox
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 4:43 pm PT...
Chris
I try very hard to let myself sound as blather-brained as humanly possible....
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 4:44 pm PT...
sesquipedalian |ˌseskwəpəˈdālyən| adjective formal (of a word) polysyllabic; long : sesquipedalian surnames. • characterized by long words; long-winded : the sesquipedalian prose of scientific journals. ORIGIN mid 17th cent.: from Latin sesquipedalis ‘a foot and a half long,’ from sesqui- (see sesqui- ) + pes, ped- ‘foot.’
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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emlev
said on 7/27/2007 @ 4:48 pm PT...
"Don't quote me on this."
???
Yer on the radio, friend. No quoting necessary.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 4:51 pm PT...
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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phil
said on 7/27/2007 @ 4:53 pm PT...
agent 99,
Besides hitting some beers after a bad day, this is my little victory garden that I do to blow off steam.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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the_zapkitty
said on 7/27/2007 @ 4:53 pm PT...
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 4:58 pm PT...
Phil
That word is my old license plate for my MG Midget!
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:00 pm PT...
Who? What! Jail for the distress flag? I spaced. WHAT!?!
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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phil
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:03 pm PT...
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:09 pm PT...
That law is fucking UNconstitutional!
I'M REVOLTING! Aren't you too?
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:13 pm PT...
I was surprised, back in the day even when the folks revolted, they had to have their fife and drums...I guess we'll use I pods?
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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phil
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:14 pm PT...
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:15 pm PT...
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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the_zapkitty
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:18 pm PT...
Hear Brad Rant!
Rant, Brad, Rant!
... this is the EAC at work, of course.
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:18 pm PT...
The ONLY way our flag should be flown nowadays is upside down! There can't be ANY argument about that. My gaskets are flying all over right now. So are Brad's, it seems.
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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billy sunshine
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:22 pm PT...
agent 99
meet me in phils garden
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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billy sunshine
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:25 pm PT...
so how about term limits
or at least family limits no more bush or clintons we can learn a new name really we can
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:25 pm PT...
Really! We can die of fruit acid poisoning together! Homegrown tomatoes literally to die for!
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
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Chris Hooten
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:27 pm PT...
The flag you guys should be flying upside down is one with Bush's face on it... And then fly a flag with a picture of a toilet on it right below!
COMMENT #43 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:29 pm PT...
I favor Congressional clerks authorized to shoot perfidious representatives and senators. We want to keep the good ones for as long as possible because they have the kind of experience with the issues it might take to really take things forward. We just have to fix the corruptibility problem with licensed-to-kill clerks.
COMMENT #44 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:30 pm PT...
Chris! Now that's a flag worth waving!
COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
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billy sunshine
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:31 pm PT...
oh those were tomatoes ... i thought ..... never mind what i thought
COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
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phil
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:33 pm PT...
COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:33 pm PT...
Maybe you can tell I'm fed up with this shit....
COMMENT #48 [Permalink]
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the_zapkitty
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:34 pm PT...
Agent 99 is an acid addict?
How old-fashioned of her! We should try to get her hooked on crystallized malic acid...
COMMENT #49 [Permalink]
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Chris Hooten
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:34 pm PT...
Can I have some of the pink flamingo tomatoes?
COMMENT #50 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:35 pm PT...
billy
Being from the Emerald Triangle, I can tell the difference...
COMMENT #51 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:38 pm PT...
COMMENT #52 [Permalink]
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phil
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:50 pm PT...
Chris,
Sure, but they're green still!
If your serious.
"Find my email" and I will mail ya a green tomato to your snail mail address.
COMMENT #53 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:55 pm PT...
916/653-6814
California Secretary of State, Debra Bowen
COMMENT #54 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 5:59 pm PT...
Whew, Peter B still has a show after all this!
COMMENT #55 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/27/2007 @ 6:00 pm PT...
Will he be afraid to vacation ever again?
COMMENT #56 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 7/27/2007 @ 6:08 pm PT...
heheh
Thanks for ALL 99! And to everyone for playing along!
Have had a great time over the past week and a half, and hope you have too!
Gotta run, get out of the studio and get today's archives up ASAP!
Thanks guys! Outta here!
COMMENT #57 [Permalink]
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the_zapkitty
said on 7/27/2007 @ 6:09 pm PT...
Did someone just use the words reform and EAC in the same sentence? Talk about being unclear on the concept...
The EAC wasn't designed to be reformed. It was designed to take federal control of critical election functions from the states, and with either Holt's bill or Feinstein's the takeover will be complete, official... and permanent.
COMMENT #58 [Permalink]
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Chris Hooten
said on 7/27/2007 @ 8:12 pm PT...
They can never take away this proven fact that these machines are completely insecure and untrustworthy! At least that cat is definitely out of the bag.
COMMENT #59 [Permalink]
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Chris Hooten
said on 7/27/2007 @ 8:30 pm PT...
Oh, Phil, to tell the truth, I have red tomatoes in my garden now! Lucky me. Thank you, though. I planted a whole bunch this year, since last year sucked here in San Diego.
COMMENT #60 [Permalink]
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leftisbest
said on 7/27/2007 @ 9:41 pm PT...
To EmLev re comment #13 as shown on the CA SOS Web site: "Written testimony may be submitted by delivering it to the hearing or by emailing it to votingsystems@sos.ca.gov [before the 10 a.m. starting time on Monday, July 30th]. Anyone wishing to ensure their comments are considered prior to the Secretary of State issuing her decisions on August 3 must submit their comments by August 1. Comments will be accepted through August 31."