Now that the East Coast and parts of the southern U.S. have been battered over and again with extreme weather this winter, and while California is in the midst of its worst and longest drought on historical record, the Sunday “news” shows, all at once, decided to cover what they describe as “climate change” — or, in the words of NBC’s Meet the Press host, David Gregory, “The Politics of Weather”.
All four of the major Sunday “news” shows — NBC’s Meet the Press, ABC’s This Week, CBS’ Face the Nation and Fox’s Fox “News” Sunday — covered the matter in various (lousy) ways.
Out of all four of them, just This Week and Face the Nation, bothered to book an actual climate scientist to take part in the conversation with their various bevies of political and journalistic deniers and non-scientists. Only Face the Nation offered a one-on-one with a climate scientist before then bringing on the denier.
Gregory, who Esquire’s Charlie Pierce aptly described today as a “noodlebrained bag of useless flesh”, tipped his hand last Friday by announcing excitedly via Twitter that MTP would be “Debating Climate change” on this week’s show with Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), one of Congress’ top carbon industry proponents and global warming deniers and Bill Nye “The Science Guy”, a mechanical engineer turned TV science personality. No actual climate scientists necessary, apparently, to “debate” climate change in Meet the Press World.
Pierce called the embarrassing exchange “every bit as grim as you can imagine”, and it certainly was. Here’s just part of his scathing, dead-on-the-money response to it…
Pierce responds to Blackburn’s idiotic word salad about “hypotheses or theories or unproven sciences,” to say: “Hypothesis. Theories. Unproven sciences. While England drowns and Australia burns and California dies of thirst.”
We’ve discussed the record rains and flooding in Great Britain several times of late on our Green News Report and on a television appearance last week on RT America, but we haven’t written about it much here. Last week, in response to the unrelenting extreme weather and storm surges swamping much of Southern England, Great Britain’s Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron was forced to promise: “The Government will do everything it can to coordinate the nation’s resources. If money needs to be spent, it will be spent. If resources are required, we will provide them. If the military can help, they will be there.”
The very next day, Cameron promised as he announced the deployment of the UK military to build a 60 meter high sea wall in one area of the country: “Money is no object in this relief effort. Whatever money is needed for it, will be spent.”
He went on to explain that in yet another area, Somerset, “There have been more than 65 million cubic meters of flood water. There is now around 3 million tons of water being pumped out every day. The equivalent of three Wembley Stadiums.”
If you’re wondering what all those “scientists” and their crazy talk of “sea rise” is about, here’s just a few seconds of video from over the weekend in Newlyn, Cornwall (video that the U.S. news networks apparently haven’t bothered to show you)…
Yes, even actual conservatives now, such as Cameron, have come to appreciate the dangers of global warming, even if it is only after disaster has struck his constituents, only after they are forced to deal with its costly consequences. And those consequences are becoming more and more costly by the year. Globally, in 2013, according to a recent report by reinsurance group Aon Benfield, we had the most extreme weather events in history that caused damage of $1 billion or more each, with 41 such events. “That’s one more than the previous set in 2010,” notes Climate Central’s Brian Kahn, detailing the steady and costly increase in such catastrophes over recent decades.
In the bargain, actual conservatives in this country may also like to not notice that failure to prepare for extreme weather events hastened by global warming has cost the U.S. some $1.15 trillion over the past thirty years, according to the Dept. of Homeland Security’s Secretary for Policy last week. He added, during his Congressional testimony, that it’s expected to cost at least another trillion over the coming decades.
But why bother doing anything about it? Denial is much easier, if much more costly.
On Sunday, NBC and Fox “News” and the others were giving airtime to jackasses like Wall Street Journal’s Kimberly Strassel to explain the reason scientists use the term “climate change” now instead of “global warming”. (In fact, they don’t. Both terms have long been used, with climate change used even earlier than global warming, though Republican and Fox “News” contributor Frank Luntz famously wrote a memo urging the GOP to use”climate change” instead of “global warming”, because he thought it was less frightening.) Strassel’s answer to Chris Wallace’s straw man question about why it’s “climate change” now instead of “global warming”: Because “you couldn’t prove that there was much global warming anymore, you know.”
Really? Tell that to the people of Australia, where they were recently forced to add a new color to their weather maps to denote newly extreme heat; where there were 203 heat-related deaths in Victoria alone last month; and where the frequency of such heatwaves has now “surpasse[d] levels previously predicted for 2030”.
“Heatwaves are coming earlier, they are lasting longer and they are hotter,” Tim Flannery of the Australian Climate Council told the Guardian today in conjunction with the group’s new report on Australia’s unprecedented heat waves. “They build up for days and before you know it, elderly people, infants and the homeless are in danger.”
Nonetheless, the Rightwing Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott still remains in denial there, last week claiming that “there have always been tough times and lush times,” as he refused to link the nation’s record heat and wildfires and drought to climate change. Not enough dead people there yet, apparently.
“We’re not looking at these things in a linked-up way,” Flannery told the Guardian in response to Abbott’s denial. “We don’t seem to recognise the relationship between the number and intensity of heatwaves on bushfires, and the impact on droughts…and people don’t want to face the truth.”
“Governments have a responsibility to keep Australians safe from dangers such as climate change. You need to be explicit about that threat. We have yet to see that policy yet,” he said.
In this country, of course, we haven’t seen it either. Here, even the non-wingnut journalists have now been cowed into not linking the human use of fossil fuels to global warming.
Despite the fact that 97% of the 4,000 scientific studies on the cause of global warming over the past 20 years have found that human activity is to blame for warmer global temperatures, non-wingnuts like NBC weatherman Al Roker offers viewers nonsense such as: “Is it a natural cycle? Is it due to human interference or human conditions that we have created? That remains open to debate. But there is no doubt the climate is changing.”
No, humanity’s contribution to climate change does not remain open to debate, at least if you bother to listen to the vast consensus of the world’s climate scientists for the past several decades. But what do they know? And why should anybody want to include them on a network news shows’ “debate” about climate change?
“What Roker’s doing here is what you might call skepticism-once-removed,” The Wire’s Philip Bump explains in his fact-check of Sunday’s MTP “debate”. “He’s too smart and too prominent to deny that climate change exists, but he also doesn’t want to get nasty emails from people who hate the idea that anyone would say climate change exists. … Roker is wrong.”
But rather than climate scientists, better to offer views of TV-friendly weathermen like Roker and mechanical scientists like Nye and offer viewers the sage wisdom of Republican denialists like Blackburn and North Carolina’s Gov. Pat McCrory (the 28-year former executive of Duke Energy) who appeared on two different Sunday shows this week (neither of which bothered to ask him on NC’s recent massive coal ash spill by Duke Energy) and “balance” that with folks like Fox’s version of a “liberal”, Kirsten Powers and NBC’s Chuck Todd.
Powers explained on Sunday that while global warming “has become very much an article of faith on the left,” (no, Kirsten, science is not “faith”), it’s probably best to not talk about it all very much. We should just call for “reducing carbon emissions” because, “whether you believe in climate change or not, I think [that] is something that people should be able to get behind.”
“I mean less pollution is definitely a good thing,” declared Powers, so as not to explain the truth too much to sensitive fossil fuel propagandized viewers. “So that might be a better way to make the argument rather than claiming that climate change is the cause of every single thing that happens with the weather.”
Naturally, over on NBC, Todd agreed with the general let’s-not-upset-everybody notion. He suggested on the Meet the Press roundtable on Sunday that maybe it’s better to keep the actual causes of this whole human-caused global warming thing to ourselves.
“I wonder if there’s too much — you know, I know some environmentalists are frustrated with that portion of the debate — but maybe you steer away from it and say, it doesn’t matter,” Todd advised. Who cares why it’s happening?! Better to just discuss what we’ll need to do now to mitigate it. He’d like to “table that part of the debate” regarding how we might make it all less horrific.
“We have to tackle this infrastructure problem. You got to build different higher seawalls in some places. We’re going to have to figure out a different way to distribute water in California….and the Federal government is going to have to pay for this…pay for all these things. And so I wonder if everybody should say, you know what? Let’s table this debate. We know what’s happening. Table that part of the debate because when you do that, then it becomes this like clubbing each other with — with — with political argument that takes away from what we have to do.”
Esquire’s Pierce found Todd’s suggestion particularly absurd.
“How, precisely, would this policy approach work?,” Pierce asked rhetorically. “‘We will spend a few billion to build state-of-the-art seawalls but we won’t bother giving a reason for why we’re doing it. We’re going to rearrange radically the way 38 million people get their water and we’ll be apolitically vague when people ask why they woke up one morning with a fking aqueduct in their backyard.'”
Apparently, the important thing is that the Sunday “news” shows either don’t mention climate change or all, or if they do, have deniers and non-climate scientists talk about it, and when they finally do talk about it, maybe it’s better to just not mention the reason for it at all. That way nobody — especially the fossil fuel industry, which is a huge sponsor of all the network news outlets and most of our elected officials in Congress — will have to discuss reality and scare those sensitive viewers and voters with actual information.
Fox “News” disinformation not withstanding, last year was the 4th warmest year on record globally, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). They also report that the 10 hottest years on record globally have all occurred since 1998. And, yet, a Media Matters study found in January this year that NBC’s Meet the Press “fail[ed] to offer a single substantial mention of climate change in all of 2013.”
Given what David Gregory and friends offered this week, perhaps it’s best they go back to not talking about it in 2014 if this is the way he and his colleagues are going to cover it while, as Pierce says, “England drowns, and Australia burns, and California dies of thirst…”









Excellent article Brad.
I do want to defend Bill Nye a bit here. Yes he’s not a climate scientist, and that’s the fuckup of David Gregory and MTP for not booking a scientist.
Not only that but Nye is knowledgeable and can make very clear points in a way non-scientists can understand. I think that’s Bill’s strength,his appeal.
Let’s face the sad truth that MTP would most likely not bring a scientist on anyway, nor do I think many actual climate scientists would go anyway, because of fear of creating a false equivalence, which is really the biggest criticism I’ve seen of Bill Nye as of late.
Jeff said @ 1:
When will he start doing that then? I’ve seen him twice over the last 3 days (on MTP and on Real Time) and he was decidedly unimpressive in both cases. I’m no scientist at all, but could certainly have both explained global warming and responded to Blackburn’s bullshit with far more clarity.
As to whether climate scientists would come on MTP, if invited, I’m quite certain I know several (several quite good and even famous ones, in fact) who’d be delighted to accept such an invitation.
MTP didn’t have one, because they didn’t want one. You are welcome to decide why that might be.
Ditto, excellent piece of reporting, Brad, always great fun to have Charlie Pierce on board riding shotgun….all of us “sentient primates” share your and Charlie’s head-imploding exasperation at the utter WORTHLESSNESS of all major US media (TV, radio, print) at asking the simplest logical questions and getting the simplest fucking straight answers!….like you’ve said, I’M not a climate scientist but i could obliterate in 5 seconds the childish and dishonest talking points of a Blackburn or a Bachmann, but somehow NO ONE ELSE in the roundtable discussion can pull the rug on those harlots?????…..jesus, we’re in Bizarro World!!….Humpty Dumpty and the Emperor’s New Clothes aren’t just bedtime stories any more…..remember when Americans once ridiculed Pravda and the Cultural Revolution for indoctrinating and humiliating a downtrodden citizenry?….or our national disbelief that a sign over a gate could possibly say Arbeit Macht Frei?…..when make-believe and reality coexist without irony (in a person’s own head, or in a household, or in a cult, or in a political party, or in a population) a re(s)(v)olution is nigh….i’m still up for a good old-fashioned war of words and ideas, believe you me, but i can’t shake the creepy feeling that the monarchy has been tilting the chessboard ever so gently into their silklined pockets for many years now, and they’re losing patience with the “gentle” part….Other than that, Mrs. Socrates, how was the play?
Brad’s criticism of the mainstream media in this post is spot on because they totally deserve it.
Media Matters pointed out that a total of 69 minutes was devoted to global warming in all of 2013 for ABC, CBS, FOX, and NBC.
That is about 29 seconds per day by each network (27+42*60/365/4) for the most security related problem civilization faces.
Well you can’t talk about the cause without invoking culpability. And thus the omission, even though we all are culpable in consuming and wasting resources like there is a never-ending supply. The externalities of the energy industry must never become their cost but remain a cost born by the public and paid for with public taxes paid by the people.
MTP=More Tea Party What a joke MTP has become. When David said he had to cater to the political talking heads or they wouldn’t come on his show, that is when I stopped watching. I can’t get the image of him dancing with Karl Rove out of my head.
You are wrong Brad. I think you will find that the Right now acknowledge the reality that climate change is man made.
It is because of gay marriage!
Great comments. Love the Pierce quotes. He’s a national treasure, always can be depended upon to cut straight through the bullshit.
Meanwhile, please don’t forget to mention the two biggest reasons AGW doesn’t get a fair hearing on the networks, even PBS to some extent… The Koch boys.
Great article in Pro Publica, a few days ago:
http://readersupportednews.org/...dark-money-man
Meet the Press = Small Talk about weather
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