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   ed said on 9/14/2004 @ 10:52am PT: [Permalink]

   I have to agree on this one. Do I want to go out and burn a flag. No. Do I think highly of people who do? No. Should there be a constitutional ban or law against it?? Again, No. There I agree with you guys. Rip into me.

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   Mrs. Johanna said on 9/14/2004 @ 2:24pm PT: [Permalink]

   No ripping. Just questions.

   You don’t think it’s right, but don’t think there should be a ban or law against it. Why?

   And why don’t you feel the same way about abortion?

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   ed said on 9/15/2004 @ 4:19am PT: [Permalink]

   A flag is an object. A fetus is not.

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   Rex Curry said on 6/21/2005 @ 5:13am PT: [Permalink]

   Any Constitutional amendment against flag desecration is bad. State laws already dictate a pledge of allegiance to the flag daily in many schools. Why is it that flag fetishists who tout flag laws don’t chant the pledge every day? Their hypocrisy masks the old dark desire to make children and adults worship government daily at the ring of a government bell. Please oppose the amendment, and educate everyone about these new historical discoveries:

   1. The original Pledge of Allegiance to the USA’s flag used a straight-armed salute and it was the source of the salute of the monstrous National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nazis). The gesture was not an ancient Roman salute. http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html

   2. The Pledge began with a military salute that then extended outward toward the flag. Due to the way that Francis Bellamy (the Pledge’s creator) used the gestures, the military salute led to the Nazi salute. The Nazi salute is an extended military salute. http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html & http://rexcurry.net/pledge_military.html

   3. Bellamy was a self-proclaimed socialist in the nationalism movement and his dogma influenced socialists in Germany, and his pledge was the origin of their salute. Many people forget that "Nazi" means "National Socialist German Workers’ Party." A mnemonic device is the swastika (Hakenkreuz in German). Although the swastika was an ancient symbol, it was also used sometimes to represent "S" letters joined for "socialism" under the German National Socialists. Hitler altered his own signature into the same stylized "S" letter for "socialist." http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter4a1a4.html

   How the discoveries were made is a fascinating story in itself. I made the discoveries by accident during legal research involving litigation about the pledge. As a libertarian lawyer, I do pro bono work educating students and others about the right to reject the ritualism.

   Fight the flag hags and their flag fetish and self-flagellation. Government’s schools should not teach kids to verbally fellate flags each morning. It is like a brainwashed cult of the omnipotent state. For adults it is childish. Remove the pledge from the flag, remove flags from schools, remove schools from government.

   A flag desecration amendment would desecrate the Constitution. Our leviathan government and its schools, and Bellamy and the Department of Education could inspire a comatose person to desecrate the flag, to pledge disallegiance, and to recite the declaration of independence.

   Francis Bellamy and his cousin and cohort Edward Bellamy (author of the bestselling novel "Looking Backward") espoused "military socialism" worldwide. The Bellamy dogma was the same dogma that led to the "Wholecaust" (of which the Holocaust was a part): 62 million killed under the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; 35 million under the Peoples’ Republic of China; 21 million under the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. It was so bad that Holocaust Museums could quadruple in size with Wholecaust Museums to document the entire slaughter.

   In the USA, the Bellamy dogma supported a government takeover of education. The government’s schools imposed segregation by law and taught racism as official policy. The USA’s behavior was an example for three decades before the Nazis. As under Nazism, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, and blacks and the Jewish and others in the USA attended government schools that dictated segregation, taught racism, and persecuted children who refused to perform the straight-arm salute and robotically chant the pledge. Some kids were expelled from government schools and had to use the many better alternatives. There were acts of violence. When Jesse Owens competed in the 1936 Olympics in Germany, his neighbors attended segregated government schools where they saluted the flag with the Nazi salute. The U.S. practice of official racism even outlasted the horrid party. And the schools and the Pledge still exist. The Pledge is still the most visible sign of the USA’s growing police state. Stop the USA’s flag Nazis.

   Franklin Delano Roosevelt repeated the Bellamy errors with his massive socialism, including the Civilian Conservation Corps and its military regimentalism ( as previously reported on Opinion Editorials at http://www.opinioneditorials.co..._20050603.html ), as well as social security and its Nazi numbering ( as previously reported on Opinion Editorials at http://www.opinioneditorials.co..._20050204.html ).

   After segregation in government’s schools ended, the Bellamy legacy caused more police-state racism of forced busing that destroyed communities and neighborhoods and deepened hostilities.

   The flag desecration amendment is proof that government schools must end because they produce people and politicians who hate the Constitution and limited government.

   Listen to a new talk-show appearance by RexCurry.net about the flag and the pledge http://rexcurry.net/rexcurry4.mp3

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   Paul Hamel said on 8/15/2005 @ 4:40am PT: [Permalink]

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   Paul Hamel said on 8/15/2005 @ 4:40am PT: [Permalink]

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