{"id":6207,"date":"2008-07-22T14:39:25","date_gmt":"2008-07-22T21:39:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bradblog.com\/?p=6207"},"modified":"2009-11-23T13:10:37","modified_gmt":"2009-11-23T21:10:37","slug":"bush-in-2007-if-they-were-to-say-leave-we-would-leave","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bradblog.com\/?p=6207","title":{"rendered":"Bush in 2007: &#8216;If They Were To Say Leave, We Would Leave&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>Guest blogged by Jon Ponder, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pensitoreview.com\/\">Pensito Review<\/a>.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Does anything that George W. Bush and John McCain say matter? Based on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.msn.com\/id\/25799429\/\">this colloquy<\/a> between Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow on &#8220;Countdown&#8221; last night, apparently not:<br \/>\n<span class=\"pullquote pqRight\"><!--\"We are there at the invitation of the Iraqi government. This is a sovereign nation. Twelve million people went to the polls to approve a constitution. It's their government's choice. If they were to say, leave, we would leave.\"- George W. Bush--><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"media\">OLBERMANN: &#8230;The Iraqi government is saying, &#8220;Get out,&#8221;\u009d and President Bush swore, you know, &#8220;Some day if they say &#8216;get out,&#8217; we&#8217;ll get out.&#8221;\u009d<\/p>\n<p>MADDOW:  That&#8217;s right.  May 2007 in the Rose Garden, Bush said&#8221;\u201dand I went back and checked the quote directly so I could be sure to directly quote him &#8220;\u201d &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/news\/releases\/2007\/05\/20070524.html\">If they were to say leave, we would leave<\/a>.&#8221;\u009d  Also, for what it&#8217;s worth, in April of 2004, John McCain at the Council on Foreign Relations said, &#8220;It is obvious we would have to leave if they asked to us leave.&#8221;\u009d<\/p>\n<p>I mean, they told us that the point of invading Iraq was to topple Saddam Hussein. Saddam Hussein was toppled; they told us that the point of staying there after, was to set up a sovereign Iraqi government. Well now, the sovereign Iraqi government is standing up on its hind legs enough to tell us to leave, and we&#8217;re left with this situation where they need another explanation of why we can&#8217;t leave.  That&#8217;s the real headline here.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/news\/releases\/2007\/05\/20070524.html\">question Bush was asked in May 2007<\/a>, as well as a bit of preamble to the money quote: <\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div class=\"media\"><strong>BUSH:<\/strong> Martha. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Q<\/strong> [Probably Martha Raddatz  of ABC News] Thank you, Mr. President. You say you want nothing short of victory, that leaving Iraq would be catastrophic; you once again mentioned al Qaeda. Does that mean that you are willing to leave American troops there, no matter what the Iraqi government does? I know this is a question we&#8217;ve asked before, but you can begin it with a &#8220;yes&#8221; or &#8220;no.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>BUSH:<\/strong> We are there at the invitation of the Iraqi government. This is a sovereign nation. Twelve million people went to the polls to approve a constitution. It&#8217;s their government&#8217;s choice. If they were to say, leave, we would leave. <\/div>\n<p>McCain spoke to the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) on April 22, 2004. After his remarks, he took a few questions from Peter G. Peterson, chairman of the Blackstone Group and chairman of CFR, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cfr.org\/publication\/6973\/\">including this one<\/a>:<\/p>\n<div class=\"media\"><strong>PETERSON:<\/strong> Let me give you a hypothetical, senator. What would or should we do if, in the post-June 30th period, a so-called sovereign Iraqi government asks us to leave, even if we are unhappy about the security situation there? I understand it&#8217;s a hypothetical, but it&#8217;s at least possible.<\/p>\n<p><strong>McCAIN:<\/strong> Well, if that scenario evolves, then I think it&#8217;s obvious that we would have to leave because&#8221;\u201d if it was an elected government of Iraq &#8220;\u201d and we&#8217;ve been asked to leave other places in the world. If it were an extremist government, then I think we would have other challenges, but I don&#8217;t see how we could stay when our whole emphasis and policy has been based on turning the Iraqi government over to the Iraqi people.<\/div>\n<p>This is just more evidence &#8212; as if any were needed &#8212; that Bush&#8217;s invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with WMD, freedom for Iraqis or the rest of the bull. It was then, and is now, about controlling the oil. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Guest blogged by Jon Ponder, Pensito Review. Does anything that George W. Bush and John McCain say matter? Based on this colloquy between Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow on &#8220;Countdown&#8221; last night, apparently not: OLBERMANN: &#8230;The Iraqi government is saying, &#8220;Get out,&#8221;\u009d and President Bush swore, you know, &#8220;Some day if they say &#8216;get out,&#8217; [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":75,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"ep_exclude_from_search":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[192,24,375,33,441],"tags":[],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-6207","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-accountability","category-iraq-war","category-keith-olbermann","category-msnbc","category-rachel-maddow","bb-type-bradblog"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bradblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6207","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bradblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bradblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bradblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/75"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bradblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6207"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/bradblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6207\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bradblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6207"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bradblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6207"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bradblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6207"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bradblog.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcoauthors&post=6207"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}