Brad-I could not find an article about the "blacked out" GOP presidential debate yesterday yet feel that debates even in the primary are an integral part of election fraud and voter's rights, so I dug up some info about the debate and conflicts of interest with Hillary Clinton and the poll used to prime the debate...here it is:
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>>>>>>Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Does Not Disclose Hillary Clinton Conflict Of Interest In WP/ABC Iowa Poll That Ranked Ron Paul Second To Last
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From Washington Post:
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Washington Post-ABC News Poll-The Washington Post-Sunday, August 5, 2007
http://www.washingtonpos...080607.html?hpid=topnews
This Washington Post-ABC News poll was conducted by telephone July 26-31, 2007, among a random sample of 402 Iowans likely to vote in the Republican caucus. The results have an five percentage point margin of sampling error. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa. and J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc. of Des Moines, Iowa consulted on this project.
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Selzer and Company Lists Wal-Mart as one of their top customers and promotes that they use "art" as well as facts when creating polls.
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J. Ann Selzer of Selzer & Company, Inc.
http://www.selzerco.com/
Naturally, quality public opinion research is scientific. It is precisely measured, accurately tabulated, and meticulously reported. That's where many research companies stop. They ask the questions and give their clients the numbers. Period. That's not enough. You need insights and ideas you can use. That's where the art comes in.
Clients Include: Wal-Mart, Grace A. Dow Memorial Library of Michigan, American Press Institute.
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Hillary Clinton Served On Wal-Mart Board Of Directors For 6 Years.
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Hillary Rodham Clinton served on the Board of Directors at Wal-Mart for a Six-year tenure
http://www.nytimes.com/2...bb19ff3a9c40&ei=5070
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Clinton's communications Director George Stephanopoulos Never Disclosed This Relationship And Obvious Conflict Of Interest.
This shows that not only is Hillary Clinton have the capability to be connected to companies that can manipulate elections on various levels, she audaciously does not disclose these connections. Reminds me of Bush, Arbusto, and Bin Laden.
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Because of Ron Paul's consistent stand on the Iraq war [the largest issue facing Americans], he has been seen as the only GOP candidate that can beat front runner Hillary Clinton.
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http://www.prisonplanet....2007/100507candefeat.htm
http://www.gambling911.c...ing-Ron-Paul-052207.html
http://firstread.msnbc.m...e/2007/07/25/289229.aspx
http://www.buchanan.org/blog/?p=787
http://www.dailyreckonin...or-president/2007/06/12/
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This answers any question of motif as to why Hillary would hide conflicts of interest between her and the Washington Post/ABC Iowa Poll that was used to:
1]Present an image of who is in the upper and lower tier of GOP Presidential Candidates so that more attention by the audience is given to those at the supposed up

John,

Speaking of chickenshit votes. I don't know about you, but I have never seen the Senate website so far behind. This is a deliberate coverup!

The Roll Call votes page says the votes are available about an hour after the vote. It is 3 days now..

I think they are afraid to post the results of the Senate vote on S. 1927. Preznit blush signed it into law on Sunday.

That is the one that ignored the 4th Amendment and gave Alberto Gonzales the right to wiretap americans without a warrant. Even after FISA ruled that illegal 4 months ago.

The House voted on it days later, and it is already up, and I posted those results days ago.

The republicans evidently all voted for it, as it was introduced by McConnell, the republican leader.

I know that is is vote #309 but when I click on it it does not show up. A page comes up:

Results of roll call votes are published here approximately an hour after they have been announced.

(Senate Vote 309). As of the time of this post the results have not been posted. All we know is that the vote was 60-28. When the names are posted I will post them here.

I do know that the man most in the know in the Senate about such programs, Chairman of the Intelligence Committee, Senator Rockefeller(D-WV), voted against S. 1927 according to rumor.

Come out come out whereever you are Senators who do not respect the 4th Amendment of the Unites States Constitution. We are watching.

And, we are coming after you and the other dogs in your next election.

John (RE post #1),

Not long after I posted above, the Senate website put up the results.

Here are the Senate Democrats who voted to give Alberto Gonzales legal authority to tap your phone, read your email, etc., if you make contact to your family or anyone else out of the country on vacation or business trips, etc:

Bayh (D-IN), Carper (D-DE), Casey (D-PA), Conrad (D-ND), Feinstein (D-CA), Inouye (D-HI), Klobuchar (D-MN), Landrieu (D-LA), Lincoln (D-AR), McCaskill (D-MO), Mikulski (D-MD), Nelson (D-FL), Nelson (D-NE), Pryor (D-AR), Salazar (D-CO), Webb (D-VA)

(Senate Vote on S. 1927). All republicans who voted on it voted to allow these warrantless wiretaps.

As a canuck who hates 'Real' terrorists and spends my energy filled moments pooping,biking,toking,chewing,cnn'ing,thinkin'of sex and feeding local wild animals,pretty much, I'll just say that around a year ago I downloaded the free sygate firewall. I then would start it and write to places like Huffington post,Here, etc. Just anti-Bushit stuff a psycho anal-retentive intelligence-gathering bigbro group would 'listen' in on apparently. Despite being illegal I assume, being non-threatening freedom of speech oriented stuff, I'd check the firewall after and find all these washington based tracking type co.'s listed as having tried to come+go thru my comp? Same thing lately +from different areas,(and not the simple porn-tracker types). Anyone else try this?, is there any list of known gov't.tracking groups? It doesn't seem to be that hard to track down a legal Tracking CO.!It could be a way to crack the real case here. Maybe someone who likes the 'Brad Blog' is tech savy enough to start checking into this. I'm willing to bet every single thing anyone of us do on the internet is in this administrations secret lair somewhere.(I don't much care,it's illegaly gathered and can only mean a class-action paycheck to too many of us to ever happen) What they've voted on is what they're willing to disclose, I think this all inclusive tracking has been ongoing forever, getting really juicy in the last 20years. When a congressman or senator votes weird(blackmailedish) it's 'cause he's been told what they got on him.... opinions?

Bud,..BC Bud #3

You said:

I'm willing to bet every single thing anyone of us do on the internet is in this administrations secret lair somewhere

I will not take that bet because there is zero doubt in my mind that you are correct.

My emails and phone calls go thru a splitter at the phone company. One stream goes to where you are reading in, and a copy stream goes to NSA.

The American Religion is blind faith that we have a democracy, when actually the Matrix is far closer to the truth.

Re: Comment 1, DailyKos is running a poll right now and you seem to be right about Ron Paul. Looks like he would win in a landslide, even from a website that vears left/liberal/democratic.

Here is the poll results so far, Ron Paul leads with 87% with almost 1,000 voters so far:
http://www.dailykos.com/...nly/2007/8/6/205111/3638

Who'd win in the general election?
Hillary Clinton 12% 108 votes
Ron Paul 87% 763 votes
871 votes