READER COMMENTS ON
"Mourning in America"
(21 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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jaime
said on 6/6/2004 @ 8:52 pm PT...
"attempting to tell America how Ronald Reagan would have supported Bush's current policies in Iraq."
-Bush has, in the grand tradition of the humble Christian he is, has compared himself to FDR, Lincoln, and Churchill. Conservative Talk Show windbags have compared him to Reagan and even have gone so far as stating that Martin Luther King and Ghandi themselves would have approved of Dubya's war in Iraq.
When Bush can string three sentences together in defense of his own policies THEN maybe he can begin comparing himself to these giants of history.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 6/7/2004 @ 12:11 pm PT...
Other giants in history with speech impediments:
Moses
Claudias I
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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des
said on 6/7/2004 @ 1:06 pm PT...
Paul --- i'm not sure what speech impediments have to do with this discussion. Dubya does not have a speech impediment. he has a *vocabulary* impediment, perhaps... he still does not know how to pronounce many words in the English language, like "nuclear", but that's not a speech impediment... it sounds more like Dubya has a learning disability.
Brad --- nice work, as usual; a clear, cogent, and unsentimental analysis of two American presidents.
even if i didn't agree with most of Reagan's policies, at least i could respect him as a person. unfortunately i can't say the same for Dubya.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Teddy
said on 6/7/2004 @ 2:11 pm PT...
Brad,
You put my own memoriam to shame. That was excellent. And a reminder of how lost the GOP has become.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 6/8/2004 @ 9:08 am PT...
Des - Most of the media cannot pronounce "Al'Qaida" or the "Chechen" people correctly. Misspronouncing a word or two or several does not make someone stupid. Many people say "PhilaDALphia" or "WORshington." It is not correct but it is how they learned them. Bush is not stupid and I would never underestimate him. Like Reagan, he is a man of his word. He beat a popular Texas governor and the 8-year VP Gore while still unable to pronounce "nuclear."
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 6/8/2004 @ 11:34 am PT...
"Like Reagan, he is a man of his word."
Unless his words are "We will give 20 billion dollars to NY to fight terrorism" or "We will give First Responders everything they need" or "We will get bin Laden Dead or Alive" or "We found the WMDs!" or "the Federal Government shouldn't interfere with State decisions about Marriage" or "We should be humble in our foreign policy" or "I look forward to speaking to the 9/11 Commission" or "I don't support the creation of the 9/11 Commission" or "I don't support Nation Building" or "Those responsible will be brought to justice (Abu Ghraib)" or "Baradi and the UN will determine the next government of Iraq" or "I hardly know Chalabi/Lay" or...I'd keep typing but my fingers are tired.
Feel free to keep your blinders on, Paul. It's probably easier to live with yourself that way.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Michael Moore
said on 6/8/2004 @ 12:52 pm PT...
Fascinating reading your writing.
Of course, you're absolutely wrong.
I voted for Reagan both times. Actually, the only time that I was foolish enough to support a Dumbocrat was in '76, and we all remember the mess that Peanut Brain made of the nation.
As for the comparison between Bush and Reagan, it is apt. They both are Christian to the core. Neither are Neo-Nazi Pro-Abortion Killing Bastards. Both stand against the Evil in the world (Communism for Reagan, Radical Islam for Bush, Liberalism for both). Both are vilified by the mentally deficient left. Both are called stupid. Both of the men that they defeated (YES, Defeated. Gore was just too incompetant to even steal an election. What a MORON, and what a bunch of MORONS voted for that loser).
Can't wait to see you losers crash and burn in November.
Really, what kind of dipshit would vote for Kerry?
O yeah, a DemoDipShit
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 6/8/2004 @ 12:59 pm PT...
Thanks for your comments "Michael". I'm sure Ronald Reagan would be very proud of your positive, optimistic spirit! Keep up the good work!
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Teddy
said on 6/8/2004 @ 1:32 pm PT...
Brad,
I weep that people like that last jackass are the inheritors of the Republican Party.
As we all know, Reagan rarely went to church. He was a religious man, but did not cram it down the throats of every American. He rarely spoke about abortion, and actually signed one of the most liberal abortion laws ever while governor of CA.
MM, Reagan would be aghast at your brutal disrespect and name-calling. Did he ever, once, do the same with Tip O'Neil or Ted Kennedy? No.
I am getting f-ing fed up with these fundamentalist neo-con ideologues hi-jacking Reagan. He was a pragmatist, and knew when to change tactics. Would that Bush was even 1/100th of the Presdient that Reagan was.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Lou
said on 6/8/2004 @ 2:06 pm PT...
Perhaps 'Michael' was fed up with the constant, irrational hate-speach coming from the left.
e.g. The columnist who opined that Reagan was now "toasty brown" (roasting in hell, that is)
e.g. The Left's inability to admit that Bush did indeed win the 2000 election (despite the attempts to rewrite FL election laws; in fact, there were a number of recounts, and Bush won them all. The allegation that the Supreme Court 'Selected' him is pure idiocy. The ruling was that there wasn't time for yet another recount. But, then again, Liberals tend to be short on facts).
e.g. The constant lie that Bush said that Iraq was an imminent threat (his words were that it should be taken care of "BEFORE it becomes an imminent threat")
As for Reagan not attending church, he did rarely do it during his administration; nine months before leaving office he told his son Michael that he looked forward to being able to once again worship without fear of an assasination attempt.
As for his pro-life stance, perhaps one ought to read his book, "Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation".
Y'know what totally turned me off to the Left (besides the fact that the rhetoric is full of lies and half-truths, and, of course, Carter's absolute incompetance)? When Reagan was shot, I was in college. The response of many in my dorm? "I hope the bastard dies".
Any ideology based on lies, hate and vilification (which is what I see as the major thread in Liberalism today) isn't worth it's weight in salt.
As for the statement "Would that Bush was even 1/100th of the President that Reagan was". Why make him less like Reagan?
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Teddy
said on 6/8/2004 @ 2:22 pm PT...
Lou,
Because he isn't like Reagan. Because he wasn't a slave to a fundamentalist ideological movement like Bush is. Because, whatever his personal feelings on abortion, he didn't cram it down America's throat with a suggested Constitutional Amendment. Because he reformed the tax code, and didn't riddle it with giveaways the way the current-day GOP is doing.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 6/8/2004 @ 2:23 pm PT...
Lou,
I understand you're just retyping what you've been told, and wish to believe (on everything from the 2000 Elections to Reagan's stance on Abortion) what you'd like to be the truth rahter than what actually is.
But just for the record, here's one tiny correction for your "imminent threat" smoke and mirrors...
BUSH: "On its present course, the Iraqi regime is a threat of unique urgency. . . . it has developed weapons of mass death."
Source: President, House Leadership Agree on Iraq Resolution, White House website (10/2/2002).
BUSH: "The history, the logic, and the facts lead to one conclusion: Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave and gathering danger."
Source: Address to the United Nations General Assembly, White House website (9/12/2002).
Feel free to apply your own Clinton-esque parsing to tell us all how "a threat of unique urgency" and "a grave and gathering danger" is nothing like an "an imminent threat".
Or just go ahead and put your head back into the sand and pretend that these are not the droids you're looking for.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Lou
said on 6/8/2004 @ 7:16 pm PT...
State of the Union, 2003. "We cannot wait until the threat is imminent".
I do find it strange that Dems who willingly admitted in 1998 that Iraq had WMDs now question the very possibility of such.
The fact is, Saddam had them in the 80's; he used them on his own people.
The fact is, the UN told him to come clean about them; he refused.
The fact is, they're showing up, little by little (like the sarin shell found a few weeks ago and the mustard gas shell found a few weeks before that).
The fact is, Iraq was involved with 9-11. According to Czech intelligence, Mohammad Atta met with Iraqi intelligence. The Wall Street Journal ran a story last week that recently discovered Iraqi documents substantiate the link between Iraq and al-Qaeda. AND, the new President of Iraq affirms the link.
Now, I realize that you Dems are not likely to read this in The New York Times or the Washington Post, neither will you hear it on CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, or NPR. You'll have to look beyond the DNC propoganda machine to see this.
As far as Reagan backing a Pro-Life Constitutional Amendment, he may not have done it in your vision of reality, but the fact is that he did in fact support it. I know, I was in the movement then, as I am now.
But, as has been stated, if the facts don't agree with their perspective, Liberals make up new 'facts'. Reality & Truth be damned.
You lefties have so perverted the English Language that it rarely means the same as it did 30 years ago.
Before Roe v Wade, there was never any talk about 'the foetus'. It was 'the baby', an implicit recognition that life exists prior to birth.
A gay person meant "a happy person", not "homosexual".
"Rights" were something guaranteed by the Constitution, not the invention of some activist judge.
But, then again, you're probably a bunch of illiterates who have no concept of orwellian Newspeak.
I'll not return to this blog. Like all liberals, you're too concerned with your irrational, hate-filled inbreeding to ever consider facts.
Toodles, and don't come crying to me when Kerry makes McGovern, Carter, Mondale, and Dukakis look like big winners.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Lou
said on 6/8/2004 @ 7:17 pm PT...
"Grave and gathering" means it's growing, getting ready to strike.
"Imminent" means it IS ready.
Gee, guess you went to public school. Had you gone to Catholic school, you'd understand English.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 6/8/2004 @ 7:29 pm PT...
Fake Conservative Lou finishes his one day appearance with:
"You'll have to look beyond the DNC propoganda machine to see this."
...If you've bothered to read this blog for more than two minutes, you'll find the sources here are quite frequently Conservative bastions such as Weekly Standard, Wall Street Journal, WorldNet Daily, etc.
But don't let that keep you from dumping your Fake Conservative claptrap where ever you can.
"I'll not return to this blog. Like all liberals, you're too concerned with your irrational, hate-filled inbreeding to ever consider facts."
Wow...Irony intended, Lou? Somehow I have a feeling it wasn't.
Anyway, thanks for stopping by! Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Teddy
said on 6/8/2004 @ 8:15 pm PT...
Hey, I'm no liberal! And Brad can back me on that!
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 6/8/2004 @ 10:28 pm PT...
"Hey, I'm no liberal!"
Not yet! But we're working on him!
Brad
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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jaime
said on 6/8/2004 @ 11:36 pm PT...
"I do find it strange that Dems who willingly admitted in 1998 that Iraq had WMDs now question the very possibility of such."
-Unless 1998 IS 2003, and you completely ignore arms inspectors who've stated over and over that the WMD's were destroyed during Clinton's precision strikes, then you would be completely accurate.
"The fact is, Saddam had them in the 80's; he used them on his own people."
-Who died this week? Reagan wanted those mass graves filled to protect American Interests. Why do you hate freedom?
"The fact is, the UN told him to come clean about them; he refused."
-Saying you don't have WMD's and not actually having them. What a novel idea.
"The fact is, they're showing up, little by little (like the sarin shell found a few weeks ago and the mustard gas shell found a few weeks before that)."
-Really? They found a mustard gas shell? What sourcing do you have for that? None, I gather. And a 20 year old Sarin shell.
"The fact is, Iraq was involved with 9-11. According to Czech intelligence, Mohammad Atta met with Iraqi intelligence."
-Debka. Newsmax. Limbaugh. Chalabi. Suppositions are not equivalent to facts.
"the new President of Iraq affirms the link"
-You mean the CIA asset who hasn't set foot in Iraq for 31 years who has been made a millionaire with our tax dollars? Next.
I feel the love of Jesus pouring over me as Lou seethes in anger hoping for our deaths.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 6/10/2004 @ 8:58 am PT...
Michael Moore and Lou - good stuff!
Here is something Reagan said:
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 6/10/2004 @ 11:28 am PT...
Paul said:
"Michael Moore and Lou - good stuff!"
Yup! Good hatin'! Good Christians all!
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Paul
said on 6/10/2004 @ 12:29 pm PT...
Brad, you are making me hot! LOL