READER COMMENTS ON
"CALIFORNIA SEC. OF STATE REFUSES TO RE-CERTIFY DIEBOLD VOTING MACHINES! (For Now...)"
(41 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Slicer
said on 12/20/2005 @ 8:57 pm PT...
Thanks I will forward this to the members of the St. Louis County BEC. They are meeting tomorow to vote on a company to give the contract to.
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Bev Harris
said on 12/20/2005 @ 8:58 pm PT...
The key problems Diebold will face is the subtle trap regarding interpreted code.
The FEC standards prohibit it; read carefully, the Sec. State is requiring them to submit THE INTERPRETER to the ITAs. I.E., it is illegal on its face and the sec. state is forcing the ITAs to admit it or look like criminals themselves.
More on the specific traps, including the violation of the prohibition against nonstandard code (which is what AccuBasic is, also the files ordered for review), see http://www.blackboxvoting.org
On an earlier note, someone here asked me if Black Box Voting had purloined any documents from dumpsters showing payments to Jack Abramoff. I replied that we had not. I was reviewing more on this today. Yes, I suppose there is a connection, because we have a check stub and a financial statement entry to Greenberg Traurig, the firm Abramoff was associated with.
Bev Harris
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/20/2005 @ 9:02 pm PT...
Another slash in Diebold's tires!!
This temporarily removes them from California.
Now, what we need to do is convince McPherson that the ITA is corrupt period, and if he intends to resolve this matter it must be done in public-period.
Clearly, there has been alot of misinformation from Diebold in CA about "Black Box Voting" and other watchdogs being on a "witch hunt"...
If you want to disprove or prove those claims, lets do it in open court. Secretary of State McPherson should call back Mrs. Harris and Black Box Voting as well as their attorney to clear the record.
Then they should inform Diebold that the testing protocols will be chosen by the STATE, not the vendor and the Hacking test should commence immediately.
The most important thing period is a reliable system. Diebold uses secret code which is built to hide vote-switching such as Curtis's program. It is NOT reliable!
It was built for fraud. The last thing either party wants is more stolen elections. Now, lets resolve this matter in public and FORCE Diebold out- and Liberty Systems or AutoMark IN!
Doug E
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/20/2005 @ 9:09 pm PT...
Bev,
Thanks for the tip. My worst fears have been realized then it seems....the "lobbyists" work for the bankers, and the bankers are all connected to the voting scam.
This is how we got this congress to begin with is my belief. Now I wonder if the republic will get us out of it....Abramoff is singing like a canary
Doug
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DarwinRules
said on 12/20/2005 @ 9:59 pm PT...
Unbelievable, isn't it? I have spent the last few years annoying ALL my friends and family about how the GOP stole the last SEVERAL elections....usually getting the "it can't happen here" response. "We have checks in place", they said. Yeah, large checks, made out to all the Right people. The MSM has been doing a pretty good job of avoiding this whole story.....because the country is going to finally wake up, like a groggy partier with a BAD hangover, and wonder WHAT THE FUCK THE MSM HAS BEEN DOING ALL ALONG.
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Bob Bilse
said on 12/20/2005 @ 10:11 pm PT...
This whole thing makes me feel like I'm playing a keno ticket, and my first 4-of-8 have hit, with 15 balls to go.
Thanks for putting up the good fight, Ms. Harris (and to Brad, and the good posters here, as well).
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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rigel99
said on 12/20/2005 @ 10:43 pm PT...
Off topic, but I found the top 10 mutual funds that Hold Diebold as top 10 investments.... Also, T-Rowe Price has a big share in Diebold as well as Choicepoint.... so Divest immediately of any of these mutual funds if you have them in your portfolio... tell your other activists the same...
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MUTUAL FUNDS WITH DBD (DIEBOLD) AS A TOP 10 HOLDING
Symbol Name % Assets
AVEDX
AVE MARIA RISING DIVIDEND FUND 3.07
CDGCX
CRAFWORD DIVIDEND GROWTH FUND C 3.51
CDGIX
CRAWFORD DIVIDEND GROWTH FUND C 3.51
RSEAX
REGIONS MORGAN KEEGAN SELECT MI 3.29
RSECX
REGIONS MORGAN KEEGAN SELECT MI 3.29
TGVKX
TCW GALILEO VALUE OPPS FUND K C 2.36
TGVNX
TCW GALILEO VALUE OPPORTUNITIES 2.36
TGVOX
TCW GALILEO VALUE OPPORTUNITIES 2.36
as to CA decertification.. good going BBV, you guys are on fire these days.. and brad too for his usually awesome muckracking journalism... why is the stock price going up??? proof of Stock market tampering perhaps?????
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Senator Debra Bowen
said on 12/20/2005 @ 11:32 pm PT...
Bev --
We would not have these issues about who is reviewing what aspects of what proprietary software in secret using what standards if we weren't using proprietary software to start with!
Debra Bowen
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/20/2005 @ 11:39 pm PT...
Senator Bowen,
You are correct....And I pray that you tell everyone that especially Boxer and everyone on the oversight committee.
Diebold uses completely irresponsible software code that the public is not allowed to inspect without a court order....
Thats a signal of criminal corruption to begin with. Then when you inspect and get to see everything, you find out it hides vote-switching code easily called the *.abo executable....
Then you know elections have been rigged before, and "someone" wants them all to be rigged in california.
Who benefits? Someone benefits from rigged elections...Someone benefits from getting senators like Ted Stevens & Joe Lieberman into office, and this is on both sides now....
Whoever keeps benefitting, thats where Diebold's loyalties are at.....Jack Abramoff...it goes right to the top. Anybody who has a question about it can simply ask an expert....like Josh Washburn who found the *.abo exploit.
You're talking about a coded machine that is not designed by accident, but on purpose in order to delete & switch votes across entire voting blocks without ever leaving a trace.
It is designed for fraud and tampering, Diebold should answer the real question in front of the Judge.
Doug
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Soul Rebel
said on 12/21/2005 @ 1:27 am PT...
Doug E -
You make the point that I have been trying to convince people of for years - these machines are built for fraud.
I'm reminded of the movie Hunt for Red October, when the Joint Chiefs are all sitting around the table realizing what a perilous monster the Red October was, and one of them said "The goddamned thing was built to start a war."
It's just that obvious.
Up here in Snohomish County, WA our county auditor and county executive are moving towards all mail-in balloting, which is great because we were one of only two counties in the State that used uncertified machines (Bev, correct me if I'm wring here, you would know better than I what the details are)...so it seems there is progress on this all over the country, even though my coounty is a little behind the rest of the state.
Story from the local paper is here:
http://heraldnet.com/sto...9/100loc_a1voting001.cfm
Note that the Democrats, who just got the county council majority from the last election, support changing the system while the Republicans want to maintain electronic machines.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/21/2005 @ 2:03 am PT...
Soul,
Exactly and like I say I consider Diebold to be innocent of these outrageous crimes or what they call "conspiracy theories" until proven in court.
But, that doesn't change the fact they need to answer the question in front of everybody. The fact is, their machines are clearly designed to hide *.abo extension files which can be replaced with malicious vote switch code like Curtis created.
The extension file is virtually cloaked, nobody looks at it and there has been no testing by any authority particularly the ITA of why this code is present. Then, it allows that executable extension file to over-ride the ORIGINAL file....hence they can over ride whats already on the memory card.
And if thats the case in both Diebold & Sequoia, they need to answer why the hell that is actually possible? And why it was built into the machines?
For that matter they need to answer why they have covered this up and lied to multiple states, counties, officials and authorities ABOUT this security code that fails all 10 standards of actual federal tests.
And if there's money involved, the FBI needs to get in there flash their badges and get to the bottom of the whole slime bucket......just like they apprehended Thomas Noe and got him & his cronies convicted. They're ready to pounce on these bastards if they broke the law, everyone by now must know that.
If anyone can prove the machines are secure, let them submit it to the court. Otherwise they should be banned and decertified as illegal & not in anyone's jurisdiction.
Doug E.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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DaveM
said on 12/21/2005 @ 5:06 am PT...
Thanks to all of you working so hard to return voting to an accountable, recountable nationwide system. I can't seem to get any of my friends to grasp the potential of continued fraud with Diebold machines in their current form. Like you, I will never give up. Heaps of great praise from me to you for your continued, invaluable, democracy saving work. Best wishes for a Merry Christmas and a Diebold free New Year!
DaveM
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 12/21/2005 @ 5:59 am PT...
Question for whoever certifies these electronic voting machines:
HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU CERTIFY THEM, IF THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE CONTROLLED EXPERIMENTS, IN WHICH TESTORS HACKED INTO THEM???
The next step, is all of these people who certified them, should be thrown in jail for ruining our democracy, and our country.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 12/21/2005 @ 6:01 am PT...
Bev,
On behalf of probably everyone who reads this blog, thanks for commenting here.
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Dredd
said on 12/21/2005 @ 6:14 am PT...
My last tip was "buy beer stock".
Next tip, buy stock in shredder companies.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 12/21/2005 @ 7:14 am PT...
Senator Debra Bowen #8
Welcome to Brad Blog.
I think you, like Congressman Conyers, are wise to appear here and blog with your fellow Americans.
It shows an affinity for the people. We are mostly regular blue blooded Americans here who love America so much we want it back.
We want it loved in the world, as it was not too long ago, and we want it peaceful.
I know you are from Redondo. I surfed there and had a sailboat near there some time back, but moved from California because the government there is just too fascist for me at this time. Don't take offense please, I am a bit radical and speak out about things.
I grew up on the beach in California and it has gone so far from what it once was ... I feel a loss.
Anyway, please work with Bev, Jim, and the fine crew at Black Box Voting should you be elected to Secretary of State.
California has been a leader state in our wonderful nation. You could be a major event in the growing movement to bring open, honest, fair, and verifiable elections back.
I applaud your efforts in that direction.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Bev Harris
said on 12/21/2005 @ 7:52 am PT...
>buy stock in shredder companies.
LOL
and for those who are entrepreneurial, patent a butt-covering device.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Bob
said on 12/21/2005 @ 7:53 am PT...
Just thought it worth noting that your "retarded cousins" up here in Canada use paper ballots and pencils, exclusively, in our federal elections. The entire count is completed in a few hours, although there are over 30 million of us. (Moreover, with occasional minority governments and no fixed election dates, we sometimes have to get the system up and running with just a few weeks' notice.)
Works just fine.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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chuck
said on 12/21/2005 @ 9:20 am PT...
get rid of diebold machines and watch the landslide...! in maine, we trounced bush twice with #2 pencils...
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Bob Bilse
said on 12/21/2005 @ 11:42 am PT...
I think Jeb Bush might be in the market for one of those butt-covering devices, from the sounds of it.
I'm thrilled to see Bev Harris and Senator Bowen posting here.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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merifour
said on 12/21/2005 @ 11:46 am PT...
#13 SR...seems we have something in common. So glad we have 3 dems now. Had the pleasure..not, of dealing with the county for 3 years. My focus has always been federal politics, I was astounded at the corruption on the county level. I always had heard this county was the most corrupt in the State, now I know how we earned that reputation. M4
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Bev Harris
said on 12/21/2005 @ 12:02 pm PT...
Senator Bowen
It's an honor to see you on this forum. This is a multi-headed beast, and proprietary software is only one of it's vicious heads. Open source does not guarantee honesty. As Harri Hursti says,
"Even if you have open source code, if I own the hardware, I can own the software."
There are many traps in open source. We must have publicly disclosed code, but that isn't the full solution.
We also must have immediate access to public records to audit elections (Note that California's Orange County has refused to turn over the VotoScope files, copies of digital ballot photographs they have from the last election). We need penalties for noncompliance.
There are a lot of holes to plug before the levy is safe again.
Thanks so much for your work. We have much more to do. I do think it is (potentially) rather slick, the way they placed public pressure on the ITAs, then put the hot potato in their lap.
I would hate to be Wyle Labs right now. I suspect they may try to thread the needle one more time, but it is getting harder and harder to do.
Bev Harris
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 12/21/2005 @ 12:05 pm PT...
Looks as if Diebold's "tumultuous week" (as described by The New York Times, which didn't cover the tumultuous events during the week, but editorialized about them on Sunday!) just got tumultuous-er.
Don't understand the Abramoff connection. Is it suggested that he bribed members of the I.T.A. on behalf of Diebold?
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/21/2005 @ 12:49 pm PT...
Robert:
It is connected....but not vetted enough yet. Greenburg Traiurg, the firm that Abramoff works in (or is a president of) makes payments to Diebold all the time...Diebold makes payments to them.
They also hand them out to all the lobbyists...the most popular ones in Washington D.C.
If most of our lobbyists up there are, well neocons then I think we got a handle on a much bigger cancer than we originally envisioned...
For instance they shred these documents to not show or record where the payments are going...and there's lots of legal questions everyone wants to know: "Why?"
Not even ES&S shreds the documents of its contributions....or throws them into dumpsters at a regular pace.
Anyway I suspect this will become much wider as apparently they have really gone all out now, realizing Ohio could be completely hijacked by neocons.
Ohio terror explosion destroys buildings next to Mosque
Well well.....It is all very familiar...Ohio residents are getting TERRORIZED by this garbage, obviously while we win victory in California, the state of Ohio slips further into hell.
Whoever is condoning this violence evidently likes Governor Taft in power...Taft is the most corrupt governor I have ever witnessed...First to be convicted while in office, in over 30 years....And even with all the criminal trials in Ohio HB-3 has been passed and these madmen have literally stripped people of their civil rights.
All I can say is this war will have to be waged on all fronts and cut them off at the pass, they are slowly trying to eradicate every remaining constitutional protection..
Doug E
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/21/2005 @ 2:35 pm PT...
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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Ricardo
said on 12/21/2005 @ 3:11 pm PT...
Too bad the Diebold ATM machines were not as hack-able as the voting machines.
The ATM machines, unlike Ohio voting machines even work in high humidity.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Soul Rebel
said on 12/21/2005 @ 3:34 pm PT...
M4: Are you from SnoCo? Or does your county just have a similar situation? Small world - if you are from SnoCo I'd be willing to bet we know each other (at least through mutual friends.) Send me an e-mail, let me know...
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 12/21/2005 @ 6:49 pm PT...
Very exciting to see Americans trying to take back the vote. Thank you Brad, Bev Harris, and Senator Bowen for all your efforts as real Patriots to at least try and safeguard a our dishonest BUSHIT system. Thanks to you, now there is at least a fighting chance that future candidates will gain public office by a legitimate election. As you know, the people in control who mainly represent the corporate elite have no desire to fix the system but only spread propaganda to make the average American believe their are no problems with our voting system. I also thank you for all the people in this country who don't have a voice at this blog to show their appreciation, however, would be so proud that you have stood up to these powerful tyranical forces to ensure that the UNITED STATES is government of the people's choice. Bear hugs for all of you. Open question: Will we ever get the election process reformed so a 3rd party candidate who represents working Americans as opposed to a frigin oil company can have a legitimate chance to win in the current multi-million dollar corporate funded monster? The troops, the environement, and the US Wildlands cannot wait and either can I.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/21/2005 @ 7:23 pm PT...
Another victory Mrs. Grizzly:
THE ANWR WILDLIFE REFUGE HAS BEEN SAVED!!!!!
No more ANWR!
That's one trophy those greedy bigot bastards from EXXON Mobil won't be taking with them.......Nor will they be sucking it up, as they had paid Ted Stevens to happen.
Doug
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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Cyra Brown
said on 12/21/2005 @ 8:51 pm PT...
I am beginning to feel a bit overwhelmed by the continuing stream of good news. I am running out of places to pinch myself. Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy! And I'd like to say "Hi" to soul rebel, I live in Pierce County, (Tacoma),and heard today that King County Republicans are opposed to the all voting by mail proposal, because they "don't believe the votes can be counted correctly". Well, they would know about that, wouldn't they? Anyway, Brad, GREAT JOB! Thanks SO much!!
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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Kathleen Wynne
said on 12/22/2005 @ 7:08 am PT...
Despite all the great strides we are making with the recent hack in Leon County, Florida and the California SOS's refusal to certify the Diebold voting machines, I'm still greatly concerned about the consequences that will occur as a result of election officials having to comply with the impending HAVA deadline on Jan. 1st (I'm not trying to rain on our parade, just trying to keep it from being rained out).
Considering that appproximately 800 jurisidictions throughout the country already have these flawed machines in place, we now face the awful reality that in order to comply with the HAVA deadline, many more states will be implementing these insecure machines.
It certainly looks as though HAVA, instead of living up to its intended purpose to "Help America Vote", is having the exact opposite affect by --- "Helping America Out of Its Vote", if election officials are forced to comply with this deadline.
I've heard that factions of election officials have requested that the HAVA deadline be extended, but to no avail. Why not? It seems reasonable, in light of the recent developments regarding voting machine security. The thought of allowing more of these insecure voting machines into more counties around the country doesn't make sense and is an irresponsible waste of taxpayers' money, not to mention it will complicate the situation even more than it already is.
Any suggestions from the BradBloggers on how we could pull off a miracle and derail this runaway HAVA train before Jan. 1st?
Kathleen Wynne
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Kathleen Wynne
said on 12/22/2005 @ 7:09 am PT...
Despite all the great strides we are making with the recent hack in Leon County, Florida and the California SOS's refusal to certify the Diebold voting machines, I'm still greatly concerned about the consequences that will occur as a result of election officials having to comply with the impending HAVA deadline on Jan. 1st (I'm not trying to rain on our parade, just trying to keep it from being rained out).
Considering that appproximately 800 jurisidictions throughout the country already have these flawed machines in place, we now face the awful reality that in order to comply with the HAVA deadline, many more states will be implementing these insecure machines.
It certainly looks as though HAVA, instead of living up to its intended purpose to "Help America Vote", is having the exact opposite affect by --- "Helping America Out of Its Vote", if election officials are forced to comply with this deadline.
I've heard that factions of election officials have requested that the HAVA deadline be extended, but to no avail. Why not? It seems reasonable, in light of the recent developments regarding voting machine security. The thought of allowing more of these insecure voting machines into more counties around the country doesn't make sense and is an irresponsible waste of taxpayers' money, not to mention it will complicate the situation even more than it already is.
Any suggestions from the BradBloggers on how we could pull off a miracle and derail this runaway HAVA train before Jan. 1st?
Kathleen Wynne
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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merci schuessler
said on 12/22/2005 @ 7:56 am PT...
I don't want to use a machine to vote on even if it is "certified". What options if any do I have?
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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merifour
said on 12/22/2005 @ 8:47 am PT...
#27 SR Yes, born and raised, still here.
wil contact you. M4
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Kathleen Wynne
said on 12/22/2005 @ 8:51 am PT...
Merci,
You, unfortunately, don't have any options at this time.
However, it is important to slow down the HAVA runaway train wreck until we can further prove that, based on the totally ineffective, or rather useless, certification process, none of the voting machines should be trusted.
Until we can further prove our case against these machines, we definitely should do everything we can stop more from being placed throughout the country just so the states can meet the HAVA deadline.
If the HAVA deadline is forced down our throats like the HAVA Act was, it will be a blatantly irresponsible waste of taxpayers' money, not to mention a slap in the face of the American people by our government.
Kathleen Wynne
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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spweaver
said on 12/22/2005 @ 9:44 am PT...
diebold
so old
just now getting it
too late
by posting here
guess what
you're a terrorist
Katrina didn't show us
black folks
what we didn't know
how much love they have
and they showed
911
was in the plan by the stand down
its funny that
white folks are just know seeing
they put a fascist in control
is he a nazi
when surrounded by
zionism
I love Jews
I love Muslims
I love Christians
but you know what I love most
God
peopel have forgotten that
how odd
I love all people
its in our soul
but those who take control
of others land
and oil and platinum
plutonium
for one world government
so yes
i understand the palestinian fight
i don't support
i don't think its right
but what about
the american revolution
what about
the civil war
it seems like
that fight
could start here
any night
white people
this country is no longer yours
and this is from the lips
of a descendant of slaves
which is why i was taught
to never obey
so no brainwash
but i can play the role
maser
thus i somehow managed
to get through law school
only to learn
the law is sht too
moved to California
bar in Feb. but it don't matter
no such thing as justice
only just us
quick buck
tax cuts and i hate welfare but
after 400 hunderd years of slavery
we are just supposed to be rich huh
so we slang rocks
rob and shoot jump shots
now our music have your kids
seeing how you flopped
be like you
they think not
so they're confused
don't get me wrong
i love rap
but its killing our kids too
but so is oru whole culture
5th graders are having sex
don't say not my kid
that's true
but
she gives head best
repent
iran is about to be nuked
but russia is backing syria too
so here it is
the next world war
right before your eyes
how could you believe in bush's lies
not even one alibi
hell
not even one try
obvious lies
with every smirk
i twirk
mafia led
while we pay taxes and work?
i don't think so
diebold did what it was supposed too
only needed 2 elections
now
who knows what they have in place
already can steal any signal from space
move slow
thought police might murk you
that means murder
30,000 dead
yeah right
that was month 4
now its year 3
these people want to start armagedeon
take your country back
but don't listen to me
i can't know what I'm talking about
I'm 26 and I'm black
but to end this here
I might go back to Africa
though i've never been
but hasn't that been your dream my friends?
how this is going
i would have never thought to say it
it might be better there
you gave us aids
so 25% will be dead
might as well take it over
plus you are already planning
on doing that again
neo-colonialism
jobs in india
none in detroit or saint louis
where iw as born and raised
how we come to this
tricked the whole county with one word
terrorist
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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merifour
said on 12/22/2005 @ 11:30 am PT...
#36 SP, thank you for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate hearing from a 26 year old who sees so clearly. I am finding there is a huge gap, gen X vs gen Y. So many 30 something's I know, believe in the Neocon agenda. That is disheartening to me. They believe the 'Big Lie', they really believe they will be 'rich' some day..whatever 'rich' means anymore. To me 'rich' is a word that no longer exists in this society. We are a nation of Poor and Wealthy. Those clinging to the notion they will someday be 'rich' are clueless imo. That is not part of the Plan. We are to be a two class society, (this time it will be corporate slaves and corporate slave owners) much of the supposed middle class are in debt to their eyeballs and bushco is making sure they fall into the 'poor' class sooner, rather than later. M4 (OT again, sorry, but who is very aware the wealth of this Nation was obtained on the backs of Slave labor, just as the wealth of many countries is being gotten in the same way as I write this)
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 12/22/2005 @ 12:35 pm PT...
Diebold isn't guilty of fraud by the mere fact of manufacturing hackable election machines, for the same reason a gun manufacturer isn't guilty of murder if its gun is used to kill someone.
But what about criminal negligence? If a man with a schizophrenic son leaves a loaded pistol on a table inside his house, he's surely guilty of something if his kid takes the gun and uses it on someone (or himself). When Diebold made the machine that was exposed in the Florida test last week, it already knew its machines had been the subject of complaints for several years.
Election fraud is a crime. A company that makes a machine it knows can be used fraudulently, whether it witnesses an act of fraud or not, has to be guilty of criminal negligence.
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 12/22/2005 @ 12:58 pm PT...
Comment #29: That's MR. Grizzly. However, openly admit if you've read my blogs then U know i can get as as angry as a Mother Griz protecting her young at the ALWAYS LEADING AMERICA DOWN THE WRONG PATH actions of the BUSHIT ADMINISTRATION since illegally taking power.
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/23/2005 @ 1:28 am PT...
Yeah HAVA needs to be dealt with once and for all.
Here's how to do it:
Prove that all the voting machines are NOT qualified for the disabled, while AutoMark clearly is so therefore they do not qualify for HAVA!!
If that is proven Kathleen, it will put AutoMark in instead until there is a better handle on this. They have proven it just about in New Mexico!!!
Every state should follow suit.
Doug
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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Donald Hornes
said on 1/4/2006 @ 3:11 pm PT...
:)
Doug,
Read everything and the links that are found in other groups. Its worth the time and effort. Activists have to understand that the Black community wants to know all the facts and not the shortcuts. That’s the reason why many of us don't vote. Lack of information. This Jeff Fisher has not taken any shortcuts and that may be his problem among white people, yet in the Black communities he is respected for taking the hard and long road to doing the honest thing for all Americans.
Donald
ddeclue@bellsouth.net wrote:
Donald:
OK well that tells me enough to say that:
I don't have any more contacts with Howard Dean than you and I send him my emails the same way you do through the web form at www.democrats.org
I do know some Florida and Orlando politicians however and I am acquainted with a few people like Rod Smith who is running for governor and I've spoke with Kendrick Meek and Peter Deutsch (now a former Congressman) a few times last year and spoken with Meek briefly a couple times regarding the Kerry campaign when I was on staff up here in Orlando and he was the Florida head honcho for Kerry...but I don't really know any national level people like Dean or Kerry or Edwards personally. I don't really know how many of these state level people would really even remember me all that well (except maybe Rod Smith) and be willing to help but I'd say your best bet is to contact Congressman Meek's local office directly in Ft. Lauderdale and ask for his help directly.
I don't understand this part: if he gave up his life -that sounds like he died in Iraq or something? How can he then work for Dean? I assume he's not dead so I guess I'll have to spend some time reading your post to see if I can understand the whole story.
I write long stuff too but there's a point where it gets to be just too much for anyone to read, even activist types like me. People often tell me the same thing I just said to you. 200 may be too short but try not to go over 700 if you want people to read it and help you...
Democratically Yours,
Doug De Clue
Orlando, FL
ddeclue@bellsouth.net
To Dorinda,
Thank you, I would like examples. Are you posting this to other groups. I have tried getting this into groups in Florida and nobody is doing anything. I think this guy should really be in Washington D.C. working for the DNC. Howard Dean would like this guy. Please pass the word on. I think this man has so much to offer. In the black community it is something to see someone like this. We had the Kennedy's but this man is more real and can give us an insight into what's really going on in America because he has lived it. I am sending this to others also because it takes an entire community to save this nation.
Donald
Donald, we don't know each other but i am in your address book... also, i noticed another name which has been dogging all my address book and advise that you observe, i keep getting like posts from this person and two other names which are neither dems and may be trolls or spam. but work together, take your address book, use titles of others, and then change body of post.... you may wish to be aware of: someone signing as: mickeydukakis, keyzergrove, cordeliachaise... might be one and the same or not, but work together and will vamp on your resources. They have been removed from several lists already. If you wish examples, i can send...
i have been following above story on mr fisher... thanks for the update.
respectfully, dorinda morenoReceived this today:
royromes@yahoo.com
I met Mr. Fisher last week in Oakland. He was stopping another brother from beating up another brother. He actually kicked a gun out of the brother’s hand. He didn’t run away like most white folk do. He stayed and helped the brother. Never in my life had I ever met live a white person in the hood who was blacker inside than me. I now have and am proud to know this man.
I play on the net and want this information about this dude spread around California and our country, (this guy is like MLK). I also want some information on a Tracey Dorsey from West Palm Beach, Florida. The information on last year’s election is true and Mr. Fisher can take down the boys in D.C.
My mama thinks he will probably get killed like MLK and Malcolm X so lets spread the message fast to save our ass and maybe his. I want this kind of man to support and work for my brothers and sisters.
Lets make it happen. Lets pray and protect this man and what he did for us.
He has seen the Promised Land and this time we the people deserve to see it and feel it too.
Roy Romes
Oakland
Further update: People are beginning to call Congresswoman Waters and Congressman Conyers. It’s good to see that America on the Internet still believes in the truth. Everybody needs to email them too.
It has a lot to do with your state. Your state is one of the states where the training took place.
Larry DeFratis wrote:
Has nothing to do with Louisiana and way too long.
My friends in L.A. told me about this cool cat at Berkley, (I am from Santa Barbra and go to school at UCSF) who tried to take on the government last year. The Bush government has already taken away our rights so this is nothing new. Well, I thought that until my brothers and I did some real research on this guy. Holy Sh-t, this guy did the government over and he is a force to be respected. I am spreading the word to a whole lot of people and they will spread the word too. The information we have on Fisher is cool and it really rocks. Power to the People. Maybe this guy should be in Washington D.C. helping the Dean people; the Kennedy people, the Wellstone people and my brothers all want him to help the Sharpton people. We found out that he had two black women who ran his operation against the will of his wife and the people of West Palm Beach. That is a cool thing to do.
He fought for our rights last year and we also found out that he worked as a protester in 1966 and 1967 in Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia for Martin Luther King Jr. Some friends who have a close and quiet contact with Ron Brown’s family verified this
For more information join 2004_Presidential_Election@yahoogroups.com and then read message # 26041,26048,26058,26067,26071,26082
I also sent this information to the DNC to see if they will act on this information or if they are really what our worst fears could be, cowards to the American Democratic Voter. I pray they are not.
The information below is what Mr. Fisher did for the voters and his support and plans he had for us. I wouldn't blame him for not ever running again for public office but it would be nice to see him working for the party promoting Progressive issues and defending our voting rights.
E-mail Congresswoman Maxine Waters at mike.murase@mail.house.gov
Her phone # is (323) 757-8900
E-mail Congressman John Conyers at jerry.omalley@mail.house.gov or karen.morgan@mail.house.gov
His phone # is (313) 961-5670 or (734) 285-5624
Tell them that there is a lot of information that is new in several Yahoo Web groups regarding Jeff Fisher and information that he was not able to reveal to the Committee last December.
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I am writing this letter to everyone who has been helping me or following this battle for justice regarding our voting rights being violated. Today is 11/24/04 and I have been informed that the information that Bev Harris had regarding Volusia County and the information I had was not strong enough to stop the certification of the vote in the state of Florida. The reason for the lack of strength is because Dr. Piotr Blass wouldn't reveal what he knew and that he had convinced the “sender” to not reveal any pertinent information. Eve Conant of Newsweek magazine received an email from the “sender” revealing some information, however Ms. Conant believes it’s not strong enough to implicate that fraud was evident. Russ Baker of The Nation spoke with the “sender” and was told that there were additional documents, however again a member of the press has decided that the information wasn’t conclusive.
Interesting link regarding Dr. Blass and telecommunications
Now for more information from Bev Harris I am posting this from her web site: I have corrected a typo and added in red some interesting other facts.
BREAKING --- MONDAY NOV 22 2004: Florida counties stonewall records requests. While some Florida counties have been attentive to the public interest and have promptly complied with our public records requests (scroll down for the Nov. 2 records request, for critical audit diagnostics), other counties have stalled, stonewalled, failed to comply in a timely manner, or outright refused to provide the records. UPDATE: Several Florida counties refused to comply with the law, by failing to provide the 8 items in the Black Box Voting Nov. 2 public records request in a timely manner.
The following counties have refused to be held accountable for the 2004 presidential election, by declining to produce basic audit documents until after all election contest periods have lapsed: Palm Beach County, Pasco County, Highlands County, Holmes County, Indian River County, Lee County, Levy County. Black Box Voting is requesting citizen audit groups to work with us to take these counties into full audit mode in December. Other counties may be added to this list.
Palm Beach and Highlands County are in Congressional District 16. This is the district that I was running to represent in the United States House of Representatives. These two counties I also had confrontations with their Supervisor of Elections, (Teresa Lepore and Joe Campbell) during early voting prior to the General Election on November 2, 2004.
I want to remind everyone to remember Watergate started with three Cubans involved with the break-in at the Democratic Nation Committee’s office in 1972 with no interests for a considerable amount of time and history showed that was only the tip of the iceberg.
If the Internet existed then justice would have been served quicker and maybe less people would have died in Vietnam because we probably would have had George McGovern as president in 1973 instead of Richard Nixon.
The Internet must keep this true story on Electronic Election Manipulation in 2004 alive. We know that the media has kept it in the circular file. The trash can. We know that they will try to debunk the proof. What they don’t know is that there is tens of thousands of people in America, Ireland, France, Germany and Israel that won’t stop telling the facts.
The good news is that I have also been told that there is enough information to open a congressional investigation into Bay Point School, Joseph Klock, Dr. Piotr Blass, Cybernet group and the infamous “sender”. This was due to the hard work and selfless efforts of several people in our nation and the countries mentioned above that decided to support the truth instead of the lies and misinformation that the Bush Administration and the media continue to broadcast. You are all heroes and we will win this war on our Constitution.
We received word today from an important member of the Democratic National Committee that they will be getting in contact with Senator Barbara Boxer to open an investigation of Election Fraud with Congressman Bob Milner.
What is disappointing is that this could have been avoided if Terry McAuliffe of the DNC had used their resources to demand that this and any other election would have a verified voting paper trail. I met Mr. McAuliffe in Dearborn, Michigan in 2003 and he told me that the people were the most important asset in the Democratic Party. I even handed him that day a rough draft of my detailed plan for a New Roadmap to Peace in the Middle East. He told me he would review it and get back to me. I called him on many occasions to never again speak with him. My plan wasn’t perfect but it had merit, I even had many members who were affiliated with the Arab American Institute looking at it and being told that it was the best thing they had read, yet they also said it needed improvement. What’s interesting is that I am a former Catholic who converted to Judaism and they still understood and accepted me because they knew that my driving goal was about justice for everyone, not just for one select group.
Where was John Kerry the past few weeks? What happened to all the faxes we sent to Cam Kerry? What happened to all the phone calls and faxes to both houses of Congress for the last two weeks? These are questions from myself, my staff and from people who are in contact with us via email and phone.
LETS KEEP ON FIGHTING FOR THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!
An American Patriot and a proud Constitutional, Progressive, Liberal Democrat
Jeff Fisher
P. S. Constitutional means that the constitution must be obeyed. Each Amendment must be adhered too. The First, Second, Third, Fourth and so on must be obeyed. What’s interesting is that you place your hand on a bible to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and then people scream and call you names, such as being Un-American and Unpatriotic when you actually stand up and do just that.
Progressive means that I am open to ideas and solutions that don’t fit the status quo of the Democratic or Republican Party as they exist today. Robert F. Kennedy in today's definition would have been listed as a Progressive, Liberal Democrat. It means that I am an independent person who listens and tries to implement the ideas of the people as long as it doesn’t break the law.
Liberal means favoring proposals for reform, tolerant of the ideas and behaviors of others in other words to be broad-minded. Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin all spoke about these virtues. I would rather stand with these men than be affiliated with the so-called “virtues” of Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter, John Ashcroft, Dick Cheney or George W. Bush.
I will quote one statement from George W. Bush. It’s the call that I will be leading the charge against this electronic manipulation of our basic right. The right to voice our selection of representation through the voting process that we Americans cherish.
To: President George W. Bush
My friends call me a bulldog
They are right
I am also a tiger and a lion
So I will paraphrase your famous words and let the chips fall around your administration.
“BRING EM ON”
Hurricane Charley
At approximately 5:30 p.m. on August 25th I received an interesting phone call from a newspaper reporter from Washington D.C. asking me why didn't I call a press conference regarding my recent trips to the West Coast of Florida in regards to helping the victims of Hurricane Charley. I told them that I went there on humanitarian reasons, not political. They reminded me that Mark Foley called the press when he did a flyby. I told the press that Mark Foley could do whatever he wants. He only cares about getting his face on the news. I care about the people getting attention instead. This reporter then questioned my integrity and claimed I had not been out there helping. I informed this cold and crass reporter that I would post some photos from my last trip to the area. That was Sunday, August 22nd. I also will be placing a movie online to show what kind of damage and horror the people have to endure.
People were donating goods needed due to the shelter in Punta Gorda not surviving Charley
On Saturday, August 21st, Ben Roth, Nancy LaSorsa, Pat Nash and Jeff Fisher went to the grand opening of Pooch Pines and collected over $250 dollars, Carol Porter of the Town Crier can verify this, and she spoke with us at the event. Ben and Jeff then went to Belle Glade to a candidate’s forum at the Bill Bailey Community Center and Jeff spoke to the crowd via the stage asking for assistance. We received a few more dollars. Then Ben and Jeff stopped in Loxahatchee at the Red Barn and spoke with the owner, Beck Hyslop, donated 400 pounds of dog food. I, Jeff Fisher will paste a letter that Nancy LaSorsa wrote after the photos to fill in the other details that took place on Sunday, August 25, 2004.
The kitten above has two broken legs.
Ben and I helped out thousands of people with help from Diane Smith, Nancy LaSorsa, Linda Blackwell and Pauline Newborn. The pets needed our help too. That is what being a humanitarian is all about. Our trip on Sunday was for the pets, it of course led to helping other people later in the day. We helped people wherever it looked like they had been forgotten or ignored. There are no lines to caring when the human spirit is involved. The spirit incorporates all living things.
I am the Webmaster for my political site. This is a true grassroots movement that has proven victory can be attained without accepting money from corporate entities like my opponent is so famous for. I would rather accept the honest donation from the workingman and put it to work than become a slave to some corporation.
Date: Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:50 pm
Subject: Hurricane Charley Disaster Relief Trip
As you know, Jeff Fisher, Ben Roth and I went to Englewood, Florida today, about 1/2 hour drive from Punta Gorda on the west coast, which was ravaged by Hurricane Charley.
I have some pictures up taken at the humane society and a couple of the boat yard that was destroyed. We took mostly video. You can check the Photos Section on the DFPBC Yahoo Group List for the photos under the Humane Society album.
Jill Butler volunteered to come along, however, we didn't want her driving alone, and my car had absolutely no more room because Jeff Fisher got 400 lbs. of dog food donated from Red Barn in Loxahatchee. The food together with dog crates, bedding, towels, toys and leashes, etc. totally filled up my car. Thanks Jill for your volunteerism. Pat Nash, thank you also. I know you really wanted to come along but for your employment commitment. And Darryn, I hope Stephanie is doing better.
We also got about $300 in monetary donations from people at my job and people who were at the opening of the Pooch Park at Okeeheelee Park in West Palm Beach, on Saturday. Jeff Fisher made the announcement that we were driving over to help out and people generously gave money to help the humane society.
You can still donate money, which is what they really need so they can buy supplies at discounted rates, by going on line to their
website www.humane.org/home.htm This is the Hurricane Charley disaster web page.
We drove from West Palm early today and arrived at the humane society and met Bess, the coordinator. These people are doing a tremendous job over there. They are taking in stray dogs and cats, owner surrender pets, surrendered because the owners have no homes and don't know when, if ever, their lives will be back to normal. They also have pets needing foster care. One little kitten had two broken legs and had tiny casts on them. She looked to be about 5 weeks old. Most of the dogs have been sent to different locations to make room for the ones coming in every day. Many people and organizations have given generously in these counties, both to people and animals. The workers there are angels.
After the humane society, we drove through Charlotte County to Arcadia, an area hit hard and still without electricity. We took
video of the destruction and the organizations and churches feeding people outside and giving away food, drink and clothing. The
National Guard was there, as were volunteers, electric company trucks trying to restore power. We dropped off 30 gallons of water to the Red Cross/Catholic Charities tents. Jeff spoke with the pastor of a church hit by the hurricane, but still open to the public giving away food and clothing. Volunteers were there barbecuing and they even had a little store inside where people could pick up needed items - all free of course. We went through so many counties, I'm sure I'll get them mixed up. I know it was 8 counties.
We drove through DeSoto County where we saw trailer parks completely destroyed. We have a taped interview with a couple talking to Jeff, who are still living in their trailer with their generator running. They are very disappointed that no help has yet arrived where they are. I'd say 90% of the park is destroyed, and they are trying to help their neighbors as best they can. A hugh tree had fallen and covered their vehicle. These people are eager to talk and are asking for help. We couldn't get a soda at the Arby's because the water is not safe to drink, so they give bottled water instead.
In our travels, we saw power lines on the ground, hugh trees uprooted, hugh metal poles bent in half - just very, very sad.
As you know, many of these counties are in Jeff's district. I'm sure Mark Foley hasn't even had his boots on the ground over there. The people were very happy to talk to him about what happened and what they still need and how long it's taking for help to get to them. We saw big wooden hand written signs asking where FEMA was, as well as signs spelling out the names of their insurance companies. Eerily reminiscent of Hurricane Andrew. Remember Charley hit on Friday the 13th, and today it's the 22nd! These people are desperate.
Well, the trip was overwhelming and I know I probably left out some of the events I witnessed, but if anyone is interested in helping out, please do so. Any and all help is very much appreciated by these people.
I wish more members of our DFPBC group could have volunteered for this cause. It was a long trip and a long day, but very, very worthwhile. I just wish we could do more.
Nancy
Interesting information that Jeff Fisher was fooled by being a kind and gentle person helping Dr. Piotr Blass
Petition to Governor Jeb Bush
Free Cuban/Polish/Jewish American David Lopez Blass
If you value children, then sign the Petition above. David Lopez Blass will be spending his birthday on Monday where twenty-four children are being abused verbally, physically, mentally and sexually. Growing Together has been doing this under the protection of HRS and now DCF over the past 15 years. DCF and Steve Walsh are now conducting a thorough investigation and compiling facts that will lead to their license being revoked.
David Birthday is today. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
To all the Davids in this nation, I will fight and defend your rights. My opponent, Congressman Mark Foley claims he is a champion of children. It took him 121 days to call Dr. Blass and offer his help. Mark Foley is a Champion of Children NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would you want your child, grandchild, niece, nephew or just one of your neighbors children who might live in the West Palm Beach area to be subjected to this kind of inhumane activity?
The Blass family wants the American people to know that there are people in political positions that do help children. Congressman Shaw (R) of Florida has been helping. Congressman Kucinich (D) of Ohio and his staff have helped. Maxwell Reade (Father of Affirmative Action) of the University of Michigan and Congressman Conyers (D) of Michigan has helped. Ken Eggleston (D) and State Representative Mary Brandenburg (D) of Palm Beach County have helped. Thank you.
David Blass's father, brothers and family are asking again the people who claim they are champions of children to help. Each of the following people has been asked for assistance and each has turned down helping an innocent child in a direct manner or through a staff member. They are:
Congressman Mark Foley, Congressman Robert Wexler, Mayor Lois Frankel, Mayor Rodney Romano, County Commissioner Burt Aaronson, State Senator Dave Aronberg.
The Blass family is asking each of them to distance themselves from Rick Bradshaw who had the audacity of not protecting Palm Beach County's children by trying to have Jeff Fisher stop the legal proceedings against Growing Together. Mr. Bradshaw has discriminated against African Americans, Arab Americans and has given support to Anti-Semetic organizations (Palm Beach Atlantic). The Blass family will forgive each of you if you help free David and dissociate yourselves from Mel Sembler, Growing Together and Rick Bradshaw. As the first step in that direction please sign our petition to Governor Bush immediately.
The Blass family and the people of Poland and Polish Americans want to thank Mr. Fisher for being the champion of children. Many people have taken notice of his heroic and humanitarian efforts for our David and the other children who are in bondage in Growing Together. Elseware on Mr. Fishers web site you will find correspondence with Dr. Michal Kleiber, Minister-Chairman of the State Committee for Scientific Research of Poland who is working with us and the U.S. Ambassador to Poland to free David who is also entitled to his full rights as a Polish American.
For more information regarding David Lopez Blass click on this link
Interesting link to research
Mr. Fisher has been listed as one of the Fabulous Five. The Fabulous Five is the top five SOE Joe Campbell and left a message on his home phone to call me. I then called Bill Faulkner and Susan Van Houton and left messages regarding the shenanigans that were going to take place on Monday. Joe Campbell never returned my call. The next morning I received a phone call from the Highlands County SOE office and I asked what was going on Monday. The women I spoke with were very angry with me for questioning their reasons for allowing a partisan group to dictate their hours of operation. I explained to her that as a Constitutional entity the SOE has a responsibility to all the voters and not just to a select portion. I informed her that I would be calling people across this nation and Florida about the unfair voting procedures that were going to take place on the 18th. She told me that I was rude and was acting only for the Democratic Party. I informed her I was acting for the voters of Florida and Highlands County and she should understand the gravity of the situation. I then told her I would contact Congressman Robert Wexler, Senator Ron Klein, Verified Voting and James Carville. I also told her that I would be orchestrating a phone barrage of concerned citizens from all reaches of the State of Florida to call in and have them change their position.
I reached out to fifty individuals in 10 counties to make those calls. For added leverage I also contacted people from Alabama, Georgia and New York State to call also. This afternoon I called to talk with Joe Campbell that went quite well. He was a bit upset about the number of phone calls he had been receiving and he was at the short end of his fuse. He calmed down and we came to an understanding that to ensure fairness the Highlands County office must maintain consistency in its time of operations for early voting. The hours are according Joe Campbell Monday thru Friday 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. and Saturday 9 a.m. thru 5 p.m
More Voting information
Florida Election Update
The following information is provided unedited and Protected under Florida's Political Free Speech Laws
(letter to William F. Faulkner)
It started on October 12th around 9 pm I received a phone call while I was campaigning in Port St. Lucie from Diane Smith in Sebring about a voting problem that was going to start on Monday October 18th, 2004 from 5 p.m. to 9 p.m. After Diane filled me in with information I called Highlands County
The work of being aggressive today must be used as a model if this takes place in any county in Florida or else ware in the United States. The situation is that I believe that the GOP will want to cause problems that are underhanded and would go unnoticed because they will be targeting small rural counties. The microscope is looking at large metropolises and again forgetting about the core of American voters who live in rural communities and rural counties.
Today I with your help have won the battle of the day. The war is not over. We have to be vigilant in our actions toward ensuring our right to vote and being counted takes place on November 2, 2004.
Jeff Fisher
Constitutional Progressive Liberal Democrat
William F. Faulkner
VerifiedVoting.ORG Volunteer
Florida State Representative
If you can, help spread the word for poll watchers and exit pollers to report incidents during Florida's General Election on November 2nd.
ELECTION PROTECTION 2004 HOTLINE NUMBER:
1-866-OUR-VOTE
(1-866-687-8683
10/17/04
Dorothy J Maver
Kucinich for President
National Campaign Manager
All the best in this election Jeff...we need more people like you in Congress!
Dr. Maxwell Reade (Friend of Dr. Piotr Blass) Professor Emeritus of Mathematics University of Michigan
(Father of Affirmative Action in the United States)
When I learned that Congressman John Conyers Jr. had endorsed Jeff Fisher I became Intrigued. I researched Mr. Fisher's political past and his activism , especially Civil Rights and Affimative Action. What I learned was that this was a man with integrity and a passion for justice. Jeff Fisher deserves to create legislation in Washington D.C. as did Robert F. Kennedy and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
Congressman Dennis Kucinich
August 24, 2004
Representing Ohio's 10th Congressional District
"Jeff Fisher's hard work throughout his historic campaign has played
an important part in creating a world that works for everyone --- a
world we, as Americans can be proud and confident to pass on to
future generations. Jeff Fisher has brought to the forefront
Progressive Democracy that shows his commitment to continue the
voice, courage and platform of Dennis John Kucinich.
Jeff's fight for civil rights for Arab Americans and Women's Rights
are rational reasons to support him against Congressman Mark Foley"
Broward for Change
August 19, 2004
Broward for Change (DFA affiliate)(Broward County is not in District 16)
Formally endorses Jeff Fisher, Progressive Liberal Constitutional Democrat.
We are endorsing him for two reasons.
Mr. Fisher exposed the inaccuracy of the recent “Felons List” regarding Broward County, which had over 6000 names on it.
Jeff placed a spreadsheet on his website and posted information in 300 yahoo groups that listed the names, addresses, date of birth,
gender and party affiliation to make the list easier to locate any person who might have been categorized incorrectly.
No other candidate or agency listed this amount of information. Thanks to this effort the press was able to
reveal enough erroneous information to have Governor Jeb Bush stop this list from being used by the state’s Supervisors of Elections.
Mr. Fisher also proved to us his value as a humanitarian when he worked in Punta Gorda just 18 hours after it hit the West coast of Florida. While Congressman Mark Foley was flying overhead making a statement on television, Jeff Fisher was at Ground Zero pulling victims out of homes that were destroyed and clearing away trees with other volunteers. We also have received information that he has sent volunteers to the following counties: Highlands, Polk, Desoto, Lee, Charlotte and Hardee.
This effort is what we want from our public servants.
This is a formal request to have Jeff Fisher considered for the Deans Dozen List.
Congressman John Conyers, Jr.
August 6, 2004
U.S. House of Representatives, representing Michigan's 14th Congressional district.
Founder of the Congressional Black Caucus, Ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee
Endorsed Jeff Fisher for Congress
Congressman Barney Frank Endorsement
August 3, 2004
Representing Massachusetts 4th Congressional District
"Jeff Fisher would be a great addition to the House.
His vote on a wide range of issues is badly needed.
I'm pleased to support him.”
10/21/04
Gloria Steinem
Florida Atlantic University
Boca Raton, Florida
(thank you Ms. Steinem for introducing me to the audience)
I will cherish, work and keep to your words of encouragement
"Mr. Fisher, I wish you great success, Your passion is what this nation desires "
Voting Update in Palm Beach County
October 23, 2004
The time is 4:10 P.M. and the early voting polls are closed.
A woman with an armful of paperwork approached me and asked for my assistance. This woman was representing several individuals who had voted via absentee ballot. For the record the woman was a supporter of Congressman Clay Shaw and President Bush.
The woman had a request about where could she deposit the absentee ballots she had with her. She and several other people during the hour that I was there wanted to know if the large gray mailbox in front of the Supervisor of Elections office is for absentee ballots. The box is not labeled.
I told her I would ask the attorney inside because they were closed due to it being after voting hours. Little did I know that being a good and kind American would create such animosity toward me from Theresa Lepore.
I walked up to the locked glass door and saw the attorney. I got his attention by knocking on the glass. I tried to get the attorney to answer the question but trying to communicate through a glass door is not an easy task.
The attorney didn't seem to understand that I was trying to get a question answered for a voter that he was supposed to be available for. So he walked walked away from the entrance and less than a minute later the police officer on duty opened the door to inform me that they are closed and to leave the property. I informed the officer I just wanted to ask the attorney a question. Could he please get him to come over and help this woman?
The police officer then walked away and came back with Supervisor of Elections, Theresa Lepore. Ms Lepore tells me to get off the premises or she will call the sheriff's office. I told Ms Lepore that this woman asked for assistance and I was only trying to help her with her voting rights. Ms Lepore then said "The woman has a mouth, let her ask the question" then when I tried again she turned toward me and said, "I don't want to hear from you, Mr. Fisher. I want to hear from her." I then informed her that the woman asked me to help. Ms Lepore this time said, "Mr. Fisher, get off the premises or I will personally summon the sheriff's office". I moved away and let her help the woman. After she was finished the woman came up to me and said thank you for trying to get an answer from Teresa Lepore.
This is the third time Theresa Lepore has threatened me with the summoning of the local sheriff's office since August 30, 2004.
Just for the record- the first time was on August 30th, 2004 when she closed the voting poll two hours earlier and I happen to use my influence with verified voting, Congressman Dennis Kucinich and the local media to have her reopen the doors. The reason I was there was because I was going to vote and I knew that the polls were open to 7:00 P.M. The time I arrived was 5:30 P.M. and the police officer on duty informed me that the doors were closed at 5:00 P.M.
Just for the record, why that day? It was the first day I had to vote because I had been volunteering my time and efforts doing relief work with Ben Roth due to Hurricane Charley in Punta Gorda, Sebring, Fort Meyers and Arcadia.
The second time was on September 1, 2004 before 11:00 A.M. when Theresa Lepore was attempting to do a recount of her race that she lost to Arthur Anderson without contacting Dr. Anderson. I was at her office again challenging her authority to violate her oath of office and try to change the outcome of an election with Hurricane Frances just a day away from striking Palm Beach County.
I am formally posting a protest that Theresa Lepore has lost her objectivity toward my Congressional Race and demand that she remove herself from participating in any recount toward my Congressional Race that may take place after the General Election on November 2, 2004.
Florida Election Update October 26, 2004
The following information is provided unedited and Protected under Florida's Political Free Speech Laws
From: Jeff Fisher
Date: 10/26/04 15:22:54
Subject: Re: Wexler's Last Chance before Nov. 2, Lawsuit Dismissed in Federal Court
Jeff Fisher reporting:
I have been instructed by the Kerry legal team that they are looking into the county policy that prohibits expressive activity on county property. The policy is that it requires a permit to do so. This policy was enacted back in 2002 however it has not been enforced until I started to hand out literature regarding voting rights, amendment issues and campaign related materials that exposed Theresa Lepore and Mark Foley's lack of cooperation regarding verified voting in Palm Beach County.
The Palm Beach sheriff's department has strict orders at the early voting poll in Palm Beach Gardens to give one warning and then if the person doesn't cease activity on the premises to arrest them. Deputy Sheriff, Bill Harrison I.D. # 3103 informed me of this yesterday. He said he is under strict orders. (For the record Officer Harrison doesn't like the directive but he has to follow orders)
I and several other individuals, including people from Martin and St. Lucie County alongside three prominent attorneys were each given the same warning on October 25, 2004. All of us left the premises as law-abiding citizens and stood outside of the driveway entrance to the parking lot. This was the closest we could participate toward the polling place. As you know the state statue states the distance as being 50 feet. Instead we were forced to be 500 feet away from the polling place before we could practice our First Amendment Rights regarding free speech. We might has well been in Mexico because we were placed at a location where few people were walking so we could present information to them.
The rules and state statues are being interpreted differently regarding early voting in Palm Beach County.
The most interesting thing is that George Bush and Theresa Lepore are always taking the constructionist interpretation of Florida's State Constitution and the United State Constitution. This time they are doing a "flip flop" or in other words "not being consistent" and taking a non-constructionist interpretation of the law.
Jeff Fisher
U.S. Congressional Candidate
Florida's 16th District
Attn: Ohio
Operation ROTH
(Ringing off the hook)
At 4:00 P.M. on November 16, 2004, Jeff Fisher called (614) 466-2585 to speak with J. Kenneth Blackwell to only have the receptionist say that she would relay the message to him. Mr. Fisher explained to her who he was and that many
people from Ohio had emailed him asking for assistance. The request from the people was for Mr. Fisher to call Mr. Blackwell and ask him to recuse himself from being the tiebreaker concerning the discarding of provisional ballots.
Mr. Fisher was also going to relay and suggest to Mr. Blackwell that by recusing himself in favor of someone non-partisan the votes would be counted fairly. This is what the presidential candidates, David Cobb (Green Party) and Michael Badnarik (Libertarian Party) have asked Ohio's Secretary of State to ensure a fair and non-partisan recount.