READER COMMENTS ON
"Clint Curtis Makes Wisconsin's Capital Times!"
(40 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Teresa
said on 4/13/2005 @ 5:10 pm PT...
THE ARMY OF THE RIGHTEOUS AND THE BRAVE IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!
THE POWER OF THE MIND WILL TRIUMPH!!!!!!!
TRUTH IS ON THE MARCH!!!!!!!!!!
LET"S GO GET THEM!
ONE MAN ONE VOTE!
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Steve
said on 4/13/2005 @ 5:12 pm PT...
(Sorry to go "off topic". I'm posting this in the comments of all of today's topics)
TO: KestrelBrighteyes, Teresa, Peg C, Peggy, Winter Patriot, Supersoling, Chemo-Electric Trashman, Shadowtwinchaos, Bejammin075, Da Wookie, Czaragorn, Savantster, Kira, Republicans are Fascists, BUSHW@CKER, Miss Persistent, Cole and any other Brad Blog regulars (or non-regulars) I might have missed (AND SOME ARE NOT NAMED BECAUSE I HAVE ALREADY CORRESPONDED WITH THEM):
I have sketched out a BRAD BLOG FUNDRAISER BLOGATHON concept and have already shared it with several Brad Bloggers by e-mail. All have expressed enthusiasm about what I presented to them and several have given additional excellent suggestions. I am trying to incorporate these suggestions (and some other ideas based on some of your comments on various threads) into the overall concept to try to create a Blogathon that will go beyond just fundraising for Brad and try to do something positive for Progressive blogsites, in general. TERESA commented in a recent thread: "... more and more people will be coming to the blogs. That's where it's happening now. Money will be coming as well. I think it is important for us to absolutely keep up this wonderful intelligent dialogue, without too much complaining, and people will be tuning in more and more. They will want to be a part of this growing movement. We are in the vanguard. I take our responsibilty seriously." These are my sentiments, exactly. This is where the Revolution has already begun and we need to do everything we can to further it and to support the vanguards of the vanguards, like Brad and the Brad Blog. I don't have e-mail addresses for most of those I mentioned above. I would like to share what I (with the help of others) have come up with and add your ideas to the mix before presenting the final proposal to Brad, hopefully in the next week. To do that, I need as many of you as possible to link to my e-mail address (click on Steve at the top of this comment) and e-mail me so that I can e-mail the proposal to you and you can comment or add to it if you wish. I promise not to share your e-mail address with anyone, including on this blog (unless you have already posted/linked it on the blog). It would not be practical to try to flesh this concept out on an open comment blog and their are a few things that I'd like to leave as a possible surprise to Brad if this idea takes wings. I have no other agenda or marketing ambitions. I am a pediatrician and have plenty of other things to do to keep me busy, but, like many of you, I feel called to action by what is happening in this country and by what I have learned from this and other blogs. I would like to try and do my part. I look forward to hearing from you and getting your input.
Thanks, Steve
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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chicago dyke
said on 4/13/2005 @ 5:41 pm PT...
thank you for your valuable work, BB. i'm so happy to know that someone is still following what is only the most important issue facing america today. your work is quality, and noted by those of us who care.
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Peg C
said on 4/13/2005 @ 5:57 pm PT...
Brad -
It'll get out there yet, what with paper chases, word of mouth, and your great and determined blog!
Hi, Chicago. Nice to see you here!
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Winter Patriot
said on 4/13/2005 @ 6:24 pm PT...
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Nana
said on 4/13/2005 @ 6:48 pm PT...
YES!!! Sing it out loud and clear, Teresa!!!
Oh, imagine all those people reading, and reading.
Imagine all those questions they will start to ask.
Just imagine!
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Nana
said on 4/13/2005 @ 6:51 pm PT...
Sorry Steve, thanks for the email & info.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Mr.Murder
said on 4/13/2005 @ 7:40 pm PT...
Brad I'm thinking compromise- we agree to one or two judges in return for a full passed bill that enacts strict paper trails, one man one vote, and full liability for the tech providers along with strongly worded language to insure each vote is counted and a recount ability will still exist.
In the meantime stand on this- one or two of those judges are so damned bad anyone voting for them will look bad to those who endorse them.
Don't do them too much a favor, just check where these appointments go and make certain they aren't part of what will determine any other election results once this is enacted.
Just my two cents. It can change their entire ammo and line of argument and holding them to what they claim is their word will be placing feet to the fire.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Mr.Murder
said on 4/13/2005 @ 7:48 pm PT...
Brad, you have any link thatr identifies the rioters at the miami-Dade courthouse in the 2000 election recount? I believe one of the rioters has proximity to a certain news face, although he's cut hair shorter at this time
I could be mistaken but it just seems familiar-
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 4/13/2005 @ 8:34 pm PT...
I wouldn't underestimate the impact of the Capital Times in Wisconsin. It might not be the Miami Herald, but Madison is more than just the center of Wisconsin's state government.
It's a liberal bastion and an academic center, with a bunch of high-minded folks who believe in good government generally. The article will be noticed by people who will talk to other people. Russ Feingold will see it. It can only be good news.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Nemo
said on 4/13/2005 @ 9:25 pm PT...
It's good to see there's still hope for the heartland. Heck, the way this month's been going, it's just good to see there's still actual, you know, journalism being practiced in this country...
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 4/13/2005 @ 9:36 pm PT...
Mr. Murder - Google "Brooks Brothers Riot" and you'll find the photo you're looking for.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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BUSHW@CKER
said on 4/13/2005 @ 9:37 pm PT...
Sorry a little OT
Your friend and mine, Rupert Murdoch has been doing a bit of soul searching (you're right, he doesn't possess one!) around the sad decline of the "news"paper at the hands of the Internet.
I thought some of Bradblog's contributors may wish to offer old Rupie some tips!
And here's some tips for keeping Creepy Rupie out of your living room.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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BUSHW@CKER
said on 4/13/2005 @ 9:49 pm PT...
Brad
Did the MSM show up in Nashville?
.....thinking I could almost answer my own question here!
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Teresa
said on 4/13/2005 @ 10:02 pm PT...
Steve, I am interested in what you've got up your sleeve. I'll be contacting you.
The University of Wisconsin is a protest waiting to happen. I was there in '67 and it was hot. All throughout the last century, Madison has been in the lead in progressive and radical movements, and it is a high energy place always ready to unite and demonstrate. It's in the fabric of the place and they are experts. It could be a pivot point. Who knows. But if Madison gets a hold of something, it is powerful.
If there is going to be a nationwide movement on this, I think a slogan should be created.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Teresa
said on 4/14/2005 @ 4:19 am PT...
The people who did the nuts and bolts work on this election fraud are all around. As long as they are, they haunt the perpetrators, who stay nervous trying to keep the crime covered. One of the downfalls of criminals...paranoia. It distracts them and weakens them. The price you pay for committing a crime. You can get caught. It's always a possibility.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Da Wookie
said on 4/14/2005 @ 5:02 am PT...
Teresa, I have to say up until the last couple of weeks they really haven't given a shit, the blatant way they've behaved made that obvious - they believed wholeheartedly that they wouldn't be caught.
With Delay on the run, Frisk and Bush distancing themselves from him, Shay and others openly critisising him, Social Security proposals tanking, polls showing a Bush nose dive and the fact that no matter what Greenspan says the deficit is huge and growing unsustainably it looks like the sheeple may put two and two together and not come up with the number that the MSM is giving them...
Mind you, most of the sheeple didn't give a shit either - until their gas prices went up and the loan for that SUV stopped looking like such a good deal. (Or is that me being cynical again?)
Maybe, just maybe the sleeping giant will awake. Let's see how long it will take, what kind of resolve it has and whether it's just too little, too late.
Keep hoping all.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 4/14/2005 @ 5:06 am PT...
Bushw@cker #13 I had noticed that Murdoch item and posted in another thread earlier today (link here).
The collective impact of these seemingly smaller stories is the real story.
And it is an encouraging story. One of the Brad Blog mottos is "Saving the world one blog at a time".
I wish Supersoling would believe it.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Jeff Jennewein
said on 4/14/2005 @ 5:54 am PT...
Thank you Brad, for keeping this issue alive and not letting people forget about it. I can't imagine why it's taken the MSM so long to get it, but better late than never.
Shame on Lucy Morgan for spreading that Feeney propaganda. How will it affect her credibility if the Curtis affair is given a full vetting?
Yep, the Neocons have a lot of 'splainin to do.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 4/14/2005 @ 6:07 am PT...
Lucy Morgan's article, and especially her petulant comment "You can say I have two heads if you want to," reflect a secondary (but pivotal) reason why the mainstream media refuse to confront the fact of fraud in the 2004 election.
Yes, it's about Corporate America. First and foremost, major papers and TV networks are owned by media conglomerates, who desperately fear offending stockholders and advertisers. If the New York Times so much as hinted at fraud, the stock market would drop 300 points the same day.
But there's another factor at work. Pulitzer Prize winners like Lucy Morgan are livid that Internet blogs are stealing their thunder. They regard us as ignorant parvenus to the world of journalism; that's why we see language like "conspiracy tales" to describe thoughtful dissent from intelligent people.
Earth to Lucy Morgan...When the mainstream media again become truly independent, we can join forces with you to seek the truth. Until then, we'll be devil's advocates for the kind of self-serving claptrap you and your colleagues have been putting out recently.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 4/14/2005 @ 7:01 am PT...
RLM #20 Well said.
The posts #13 and #18 have links to an article where Murdoch is complaining that we are having a major impact on the news business.
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Emily
said on 4/14/2005 @ 7:15 am PT...
We are? Really? Huh. I really don't see that. *shrug* I don't see MSNBC or CNN talking about Mr. Curtis.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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cheryl
said on 4/14/2005 @ 7:55 am PT...
Good one Brad! The MSM is really slow to catch up, but with patience from us they eventually will. It's just so hard to be patient when so much damage is being done while we wait.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Peggy
said on 4/14/2005 @ 10:44 am PT...
Speaking out results in “investigation”
So, the only course of action is for EVERYONE to start speaking out - that should keep the Bush regime very busy and out of trouble (or into further trouble with the American people) for awhile!
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 4/14/2005 @ 11:52 am PT...
Every time someone turns off the TV set and goes to bradblog, a commercial advertiser loses business. When that happens, ad rates go down and the network's earnings are affected. Every time someone cancels a newspaper subscription in favor of getting news from the Internet, the same thing happens.
Media outlets keep merging with one another to maintain market share, but that only exacerbates the problem...fewer news sources means less competition and less response to market demands.
What people are demanding now, the media aren't giving us, because they're all too big and too dependent on Wall Street and Madison Avenue.
Murdoch is simply acknowledging reality. Lucy Morgan is stamping her feet. We're winning, folks. The market (that place every Bushie trusts to solve every problem in the universe) is hoisting the commercial media on their own petards. In the short run, it means we get frustrated when the Curtis/Feeney story is corrupted; in the long run, we win...because they lose. It's a zero sum game.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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teresa
said on 4/14/2005 @ 1:55 pm PT...
You've got to keep in mind the fact that Bush and Co. are not in charge. Nor are the players within the MSM. The corporations are. And they have no loyalty. They will go wherever the market is. So we ultimately dictate. Just recognize the power.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Nana
said on 4/14/2005 @ 2:20 pm PT...
Teresa and Robert
Strongly agree. This monster lives. And for only the pursuit of profit and power.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Teresa
said on 4/14/2005 @ 3:09 pm PT...
And we hold the strings. The corporations are worried. Consumer spending is down. They are headed for troubled waters. If we can learn to curtail our consumption, we are in a winning game.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Mr.Murder
said on 4/15/2005 @ 1:02 am PT...
change names* much work lies ahead to correct my typos at this morn hour also...
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 4/15/2005 @ 7:10 am PT...
The mainstream media cannot survive without the support of the consumer economy, which has risen to become 2/3 of Gross Domestic Product.
Newspapers and TV networks rely on advertising. Advertisers won't spend money unless the public spends money on the products they promote. At the same time, consumer spending lifts the economy itself, which Wall Street needs to survive. The New York Times, CNN, CBS-TV and the Miami Herald are all in the same boat with the New York Stock Exchange.
It's a zero-sum game, because the less real news the mainstream media provide, the fewer readers and viewers they'll satisfy. At that point the advertisers will say, "We're not getting our money's worth," and stockholders (whom the media conglomerates think they're protecting) say, "This company is losing readership and viewership."
The Internet, and bradblog, can be described as the "un-Wall Street, un-Madison Avenue media."
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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donna
said on 4/15/2005 @ 11:57 am PT...
Wow! The daily briefing is my blog. I am the author of that piece, and I do not work for the Capital Times. I'm just an independent blogger at madison.com.
Thank you for the national publicity! I'm a loyal visitor to this site and am happy to pass on your news.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Mr.Murder
said on 4/15/2005 @ 12:59 pm PT...
well it was a different Tom who was a DeLay staffer at the Brooks brothers riot.
Still I've yet to see a copy of the entire FOIA/IRS disclosures for the people paid to appear there.
Just a tanget, the Kevin Cole making those headlines is different from Tom Cole the OK congressman/delay supporter?
It almost appears there people have avoided vertical integration and lent people from the ranks to one another to avoid the full name trail connection.
ANyways, such is the nature of being a skeptic- overpursuit...
Literally the depth of vote fraud is so deep it defies recognition. They change neams, resume technology and fraud across the board. Much work lies ahead to right the wrongs being done to America.
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Teresa
said on 4/15/2005 @ 3:52 pm PT...
Congratulations, Donna! I love Madison! Well done!
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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teresa
said on 4/15/2005 @ 3:58 pm PT...
I want to further emphasize the seeds of progress that are always growing in the American society. Many family members of mine went to the Univ. of Wisconsin because of that. There were radical movemnets of all kinds dating back at least to the 1930's, maybe earlier. And this continues. You can look at the crimes continually and bemoan your helplessness, or you can join in the effort to transform society. Something is always wrong and needs improvement.
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 4/16/2005 @ 5:51 am PT...
Thank you, Donna. I think it's fair to say that the engine of news delivery is steadily moving away from the hub of American commerce, Madison Avenue, to the hub of American Progessivism...
Madison, Wisconsin.
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