READER COMMENTS ON
"Israel Attacks UN Shelter at School Compound in Gaza, At Least 15 Killed, Scores Injured"
(11 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Steve Snyder aka WingnutSteve
said on 7/24/2014 @ 4:57 pm PT...
The only part of the piece which should spark any outrage is: "According to the IDF, Hamas militants prevented civilians from evacuating and continued firing rockets from the area around the shelter."
Judging from your headline, the terrorist organization Hamas got the exact reaction they expect from the weak kneed blogosphere. The same goes for our "journalists" too.
What a breath of fresh air it would be if someone had the stones to headline their piece: "Terrorists force civilians to die in a pre-planned and forewarned bombing.
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Brad Friedman
said on 7/24/2014 @ 5:35 pm PT...
WingnutSteve just can't quit us...
What a breath of fresh air it would be if someone had the stones to headline their piece: "Terrorists force civilians to die in a pre-planned and forewarned bombing."
Orwell wouldn't have been able to headline it better. Like the guy who told the cops: "No really, he punched me in the fist with his face!"
BTW, had Al Qaeda sent a warning they were gonna attack the World Trade Center on the night of 9/10, they would have been exhonerated, and any deaths there on 9/11 would have been completely our fault, right?
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David Lasagna
said on 7/24/2014 @ 7:36 pm PT...
Steve, And what would be the basis for uncritically accepting what the IDF says? That would make as much sense as uncritically accepting what our government says or the Russian government. All have very good track records for being precise with the truth. The Israelis and the U.S. are also very precise with their bombardments. At least according to them.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Steve Snyder aka WingnutSteve
said on 7/24/2014 @ 8:53 pm PT...
Brad your "analogy" is completely senseless. However I'll play your stupid apples to oranges game. If bombs were being lobbed at al Quaeda neighborhoods from the WTC, endangering the lives of millions based upon the WTC belief that al Quaeda had no right to exist, then al Quaeda would have the right to defend itself. That's not quite what happened is it Brad?
Whatever. Just wanted to point out the obvious. Israel warns of bombings to allow civilians an opportunity to leave ahead of time. The terrorist organization Hamas uses their civilians as pawns to get the reaction they got from nuts like you. Pretending it's not true, defending the terrorists by ignoring their actions and condemning the people defending themselves against such terrorist activity doesn't change anything. But sadly, it's expected from you folks on the loony left.
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David Lasagna
said on 7/25/2014 @ 5:49 am PT...
Steve--Your view of terrorism is right out of the U.S. propaganda playbook.
For a more comprehensive view here's the first part of Eqbal Ahmad's lecture which I've posted here before. The rest of it and/or the written transcript should be easy to find, if your interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VqgZf-DnZs
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Steve Snyder aka WingnutSteve
said on 7/25/2014 @ 8:49 pm PT...
No actually my views of terrorism comes pretty much straight from the dictionary definition: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. I have no desire whatsoever to watch a political video describing your warped views of terrorism but thanks for the offer...
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David Lasagna
said on 7/26/2014 @ 6:41 am PT...
Steve @6--
I say your view of terrorism is right out of the U.S. propaganda playbook because you seem to apply your definition only to other actors, never your own. That's inconsistent and hypocritical. Right out of the U.S. propaganda playbook.
How would you know the content or quality of a video you haven't seen?
Or, if you have seen it--Your last comment there is a poster child for ad hominem attacks. Not dealing in the slightest with the subject matter at hand while gratuitously attacking the message and messenger.
Meaningful communication is not possible with a mind/person that already knows all the answers, has no curiosity or openness to other views, and cannot/will not look at, examine, or offer substantive criticism to alternative ways of thinking.
You in a nutshell.
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Big Dan
said on 7/28/2014 @ 12:50 pm PT...
HERE is the propaganda: "ROCKETS FROM GAZA"
UN official busts David Gregory for using Israeli propaganda video: ‘That’s really unfair’
NBC host David Gregory was forced to issue a correction at the end of his weekly Meet the Press program on Sunday after a United Nations official confronted him for using a unconfirmed Israeli video that allegedly showed Hamas shooting rockets from a UN school.
http://www.rawstory.com/...deo-thats-really-unfair/
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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jj
said on 7/29/2014 @ 3:55 pm PT...
NBC is on their way out, CBS, and ABC are next. CNN and FOX never were reporters or journalist.
Journalist in the world news main street media are now in legue with lawyers, machanics, used car salesmen, and even worse are now seen as unamerican.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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rgold
said on 8/1/2014 @ 8:37 pm PT...
Help me out Brad. It's been reported that Hamas has been using UN facilitates in Gaza to launch rockets into Israel. How come there is no reporting on that by you on your site and no uproar by you on this? I'm a liberal Jew and I'm appalled at the one sided coverage by left wing blogs on the situation in Israel. There is almost no condemnation by left wing blogs on the actions of Hamas, it's almost as if the left wing blogosphere would like to see a lot of death and destruction in Israel. Where are your posts on Hamas storing its weapons inside hospitals, mosques and schools? Can you point to any articles on your site where you condemn Hamas?
As to you analogy "BTW, had Al Qaeda sent a warning they were gonna attack the World Trade Center on the night of 9/10, they would have been exhonerated, and any deaths there on 9/11 would have been completely our fault, right? " your analogy is irrelevant, immaterial, incompetent and I'll tell you why. 9/11 was unprovoked. Unless you're going to act as the spokesperson for Al Qaeda and do their bidding for them, there is no way that you could claim that 9/11 was in provoked. I guess if 9/11 was provoked by the US than the Holocaust was provoked by Jews. What is happening in Israel and Gaza is a direct result of the kidnapping and murder of 3 Jewish boys by Hamas and the rocket firing by Hamas into Israel.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 8/3/2014 @ 3:40 pm PT...
rgold said @ 10:
Help me out Brad.
Happy to, rgold. And, by the way, welcome to The BRAD BLOG!
It's been reported that Hamas has been using UN facilitates in Gaza to launch rockets into Israel. How come there is no reporting on that by you on your site and no uproar by you on this?
There is. Right here, wherein I reported on Israel's claims about Hamas "using UN facilitates in Gaza to launch rockets into Israel" and the UN's denial of those claims.
There is almost no condemnation by left wing blogs on the actions of Hamas
You mean like in the article I just linked for you above, where I wrote [emphasis added here for you] "It is because I support Israel's right to exist that I strongly condemn their attacks (along with Hamas')"?
That said, we are not a cheering section for anybody. We report news. Even news you may not like to read.
it's almost as if the left wing blogosphere would like to see a lot of death and destruction in Israel.
By "almost", do you mean "in no way, shape, or form"? Because I've seen no such interest in "a lot of death and destruction in Israel" from any "left wing" blog. But your imagination is neato too!
Where are your posts on Hamas storing its weapons inside hospitals, mosques and schools? Can you point to any articles on your site where you condemn Hamas?
You mean like the one I just linked for you, that ran just a day or three after this one?
As to you analogy "BTW, had Al Qaeda sent a warning they were gonna attack the World Trade Center on the night of 9/10, they would have been exhonerated, and any deaths there on 9/11 would have been completely our fault, right? " your analogy is irrelevant, immaterial, incompetent and I'll tell you why.
Great! Thanks!
I guess if 9/11 was provoked by the US than the Holocaust was provoked by Jews.
Did the Germans believe that the Jews spent decades oppressing them, overthrowing their democratically elected governments, supporting tyranical regimes which tortured and murdered them for years, and aggressively occupied their homeland?
If not, it seems your analogy to WWI is fairly, um, ridiculous, though it's excellent propaganda! Good work!
What is happening in Israel and Gaza is a direct result of the kidnapping and murder of 3 Jewish boys by Hamas
Except Hamas didn't kidnap or murder those 3 Jewish boys, according to Israeli sources.
But, again, welcome to The BRAD BLOG!